Keep #extended-lazy-session-loading flag
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A Former User last edited by
See the top of flags page for the answer.
Oh, I see... So the flags are inherently probabilistic and we can hope this one will spontaneously reappear next time, right?
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A Former User last edited by
Perhaps tab throttling is suppose to make up for it.
Nope, tab throttling does nothing for me.
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sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by
Flags are experimental. They may be dropped if deemed not sufficiently useful, or they may be promoted to actual settings. Or replaced by something else, which may or may not be better. Most flags are actually from Chromium, and as such Opera may not even control whether it stays or goes.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
So the flags are inherently probabilistic and we can hope this one will spontaneously reappear next time, right? :
Like the warning in flags page says, they are experiments. They will be removed when the experiment ends, regardless if it will be turned into a feature/setting or if it will be just dropped.
Usually flags don't come back but you can always hope.
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A Former User last edited by
They may be dropped if deemed not sufficiently useful, or they may be promoted to actual settings. Or replaced by something else, which may or may not be better. Most flags are actually from Chromium, and as such Opera may not even control whether it stays or goes.
They will be removed when the experiment ends, regardless if it will be turned into a feature/setting or if it will be just dropped.
Well, the thing is this particular option used to be not an experiment but an actual setting already. Turning on "Delay loading of background tabs" prevented inactive tabs from loading on startup. This behaviour was changed some time ago, and users were forced to use the flag.
As far as I know, Chrome (and Chromium) has never had its "Delay loading of background tabs" option. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems the option was removed by Opera, not Chromium, developers for some reason. It can't be that hard to bring it back, can it? Let there be three options: load all tabs at once, delay loading, and prevent loading. Why not?
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
Well, the thing is this particular option used to be not an experiment but an actual setting already.
It was an experiment, there used to be a flag to enable 'delay loading of background tabs' option in settings. When the feature was considered stable enough, they removed the flag.
Together with that experiment there was another one to allow background tabs to load progressively after Opera had started when 'delay loading of background tabs' were enabled. That experiment also ended, with the feature being turned on.
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kroppy last edited by
So how do we start opera without tabs being loaded in the background? With around 50 tabs all my RAM is eaten in few minutes and my internet traffic is wasted. Strange thing is that on one pc tabs don't load, and on another they slowly load one by one. And it pisses me off that on pc with 4GB of ram tabs load and on one with 32GB don't. How do I stop that behavior?
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kroppy last edited by
You close them before closing Opera.
No, simply no. Session is for a reason, which is to continue where you left off.
I don't see a point in loading tabs before activating them.
Where did Opera's policy go?
I mean what about traffic savings?
What about Opera Turbo, which is now gone from menu and is available only from options page?
I pay for each GB of traffic, so my suggestion is to give #extended-lazy-session-loading option back, or even put that functionality to options page as "Don't load tabs until selected".
Otherwise I'm forced to use another browser on my laptop. And I'm sure it's not only me. -
A Former User last edited by
It was an experiment, there used to be a flag to enable 'delay loading of background tabs' option in settings. When the feature was considered stable enough, they removed the flag.
It was a very long experiment then. Too bad the Chinese developers have decided to end it.
No, simply no. Session is for a reason, which is to continue where you left off.
I don't see a point in loading tabs before activating them.
Where did Opera's policy go?
I mean what about traffic savings?
What about Opera Turbo, which is now gone from menu and is available only from options page?
I pay for each GB of traffic, so my suggestion is to give #extended-lazy-session-loading option back, or even put that functionality to options page as "Don't load tabs until selected".
Otherwise I'm forced to use another browser on my laptop. And I'm sure it's not only me.That is so true.
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jackwhite9999 last edited by
I'm confused. Some say disabling #extended-lazy-session-loading makes the background tabs stay unloaded, but on mine, disabling it makes all the tabs load.
With it enabled (default), they still all seem to load, but are delayed until the selected tab finishes loading.Is there no way to have all non-selected tabs never load unless selected? Having this feature makes complete sense. Why is this even an issue?
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jackwhite9999 last edited by
Is there no way to have all non-selected tabs never load unless selected?
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A Former User last edited by
@leocg said in Keep #extended-lazy-session-loading flag:
Well, the thing is this particular option used to be not an experiment but an actual setting already.
It was an experiment, there used to be a flag to enable 'delay loading of background tabs' option in settings. When the feature was considered stable enough, they removed the flag.
You must be talking about #lazy-session-loading-default-enabled which wasn't added until version 41 when #extended-lazy-session-loading was also changed to enabled by default (was disabled in versions before), the "Delay loading..." setting however was added way before this in version 23 (implementing the #lazy-session-loading experiment in versions before) whose normal behaviour (ie: #extended-lazy-session-loading disabled) was to only load tabs when they were made active. So this desired option to only load active tabs was an actual setting through versions 23 to 45 and was the default behaviour up until 41 where the extended experiment was enabled by default, they then removed this option in version 46 when they implemented the extended experiment replacing it as the normal (and only) behaviour for delay loading.
The removal of the option makes zero sense, it would have been so damn simple to add an extra option to enable/disable the extended delayed loading but instead they dumb it down.
@jackwhite9999 said in Keep #extended-lazy-session-loading flag:
Is there no way to have all non-selected tabs never load unless selected?
Not in since version since 46, you would have to go back to version 45 to get the option back and nuking the auto-update file to stay there (stupid there's no built-in option to disable auto-updating that any decent software should have but that's another issue for another time).
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zalex108 last edited by zalex108@sevic said in Keep #extended-lazy-session-loading flag:
you would have to go back to version 45 to get the option back and nuking the auto-update file to stay there (stupid there's no built-in option to disable auto-updating that any decent software should have but that's another issue for another time)
Or you can switch off the network before open Opera, then it will load as the flag enabled behaviour, - tedious but effective -.
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sunsey last edited by sunsey
Hate this "super improvements". For whom do you make them? What's the sense of removing this useful option. It ruins all the process of browsing. Why or why. Why to low the user experience to the level of housewives? Is it really your audience now? I could accept it if it was new feature request but ruining the thing which had been working perfectly for decades of version. Just insanity.
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A Former User last edited by
@sunsey because devs of old opera leaved the project?
I still want to see that flag bringed back. Since old times I have a habit to keep many tabs opened in Opera, up to 400 (usually 40-50), and thus not loading all tabs is vital. If I need, I will click on tab and it will load on demand. But it is gone, and for now I forced to install third-party extensions for functions that usually was integral part of Opera.I still considering whether or not I will stay because 2000+ bookmarks and passwords is hard to transfer outside, especially with poor bookmarks editor.
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A Former User last edited by
No idea about the passwords, but transferring bookmarks is easy. Just export as HTML, then import into another browser. Opera now has the ability to save bookmarks built in.
