Posts made by smokofenek

@saskatchewan: Cool! It works perfectly

@saskatchewan I am really glad it worked. I've actually seen Your reply few days ago, but didn't have anything to add, waiting for the new version to appear. Still, the Opera didn't update it to the 1.30, as it's listed as 1.20 to me. I hope Opera will update it soon, because it was one of the best addons here. Simple, but made life easier, as someone who browses multiple languages on Wikipedia

@saskatchewan Still, thanks for making this addon in the first place. Was very useful to me for years. Sometimes changes that seem to be just small are more complicated, like that language list. Would be cool if You could fix it, but don't push too hard. Nobody would blame You, because it's not Your fault that it was changed that way have a nice day.

@jrmenzon-0 Wikipedia changed layout, so obviously it won't work, because it adds text to the title of an article. Addon must be updated in order to make it work again.

And I don't know if there will be a fix. It's very old addon, it might be abandoned. Hopefully I am wrong, but I wouldn't set my hopes high.

@jojo0587: Exactly. This addon is obsolete, as Opera has native support for Chrome extensions.

I wish we also had tab groups, because that's the main feature that Opera lacks. Chrome already implemented this and Opera just don't want to do give us this. Please, make Opera have tab groups too

I also want to add one more thing. Just updated Opera to 83 version and got the default upgrade tab opened in browser. What I read there was advertising of Opera.

Ditch the default

And here's a problem. Opera used to be the great browser, because it had most functionality. But all features were cool. I always loved it that Opera had more things, but not of them were bloated. Unfortunately it changed. It says That it has build-in ad-blocker, free VPN, integrated messengers, crypto wallet and so much more.

So what do I want to say? Almost every of those mentioned features are bloat features. Built-in ad-blocker in Opera is bad. I used to use AdBlock, which was already superior to Opera ad-blocker. I tried to turn off AdBlock addon just to find out that Opera doesn't block even half of the ads AdBlock did. I use even better ad-blocker now, uBlock Origin, which I will really recommend to anyone. As for free VPN, not only it's also bad, but it's just a proxy. Most sites still knows where are You from. Crypto wallet support is bad, because crypto currencies are scam. So being proud that You support such thing is rather funny. What's next NFT in Opera? This would surely make me quit forever. I'm really surprised that crypto wallet didn't.

But what does it have to do with tabs? Everything. The whole advertising is saying that Opera is better, because it has what Chrome and other default browsers doesn't. While literally refusing to add tab groups, which Internet Explorer had in 2011 and Chrome has now. And the reasoning is "no, because we have workspaces". I don't give a hecc about workspaces. I want tab groups. So the whole Opera offers a complete web experience you can’t get from system defaults such as Chrome, Safari and Edge sentence is just an irony. Because it used to be true. It still have some functionality other browsers doesn't. But for God's sake. Tab groups and colors for them is what people ask for and Opera refuses to add giving stupid excuses.

Opera is the most bloated browser right now. It has features that nobody asked for, but don't want to add features people beg for.

@ddl Yes, I know. And it's sad that Chrome can do this but Opera is like "Nope! We won't do what people want! We have our workspaces that are not useful for most people, but we're proud of it, so we won't do group tabs with colors!"

I really fell in love with Opera because it was a browser with most functionality. Comparing it to any other browsers it was always superior. Even now their search engine functionality is better than Chrome. Chrome for example doesn't have POST option to set there, which I was really surprised for. It even has a small details that You press F8 and it takes You to address bar. Chrome do not do that and I was surprised too because of that.

But they started to add trash features like pseudo-VPN which isn't really a VPN but some proxy that doesn't even work like 90% of times, crypto wallet, which is stupid etc.

Workspaces would be useful, but come on... this isn't thing people want. Tab groups are far more useful and Chrome did it perfectly.

Just look at that! Colored grouped tabs. With names! And You can easily hide them. So easy and intuitive. User friendly feature. It's literally like workspaces but with better visuals, name indicators and easier access. I don't need to hide things in a workspace I would forgot it existed. This is the feature I want to see in Opera. Because this is what I want, need and would use so much. And I never used workspaces even once. I forgot it even exist. I added something to workspace then I forgot about it completely.

I hope people at Opera will change their minds, because Google people are making Chrome useful at least. Without adding pseudo features like crypto wallet or fake VPN thing.

It's one of my favorite addons. Any chances of this being made as Chrome Extension? I use many browsers but Opera and Chrome are the most used and I would love to have that addon here too.

@mike88 Yeah, I considered stopping using Opera too. It has some cool features, but Chrome has some similar things and maybe not all are there, but e.g. addons are better and native (because Opera often has to use it thanks to "Install Chrome Extensions" addon). Also people were asking for tab groups, which are very useful, yet we were told it's not needed. I'm not really convinced by that reasoning. Because Opera has workspaces. Btw, Firefox had them too (like 5 years ago or earlier?) but for some reason they removed that feature. Because it was maybe not really useful. But tab groups is what many people want.

I really consider not using Opera as primary browser because of that. Chrome has many features Opera does and often works better. And since I have already Chrome and 20 other browsers installed, it's not really hard for me to swap them.

I wish Opera had more user-friendly approach. Instead "we do what we want to do and if people ask for feature, we will deny because Opera has better feature". And I'm not going to lose my nerve and time to try to fix problem that is definitely on Opera's side. it's impossible that two different computers magically doesn't want to update, even when one of them was brand new. And I think my old laptop, which now has dead screen, so I can't check it, had similar problem too. So, come on. What can I do if anything logical doesn't help. And every other program I ever used have autoupdates working well. Every browser. Just not an Opera...

There is a feature I would miss, though, which is My Flow. But I can always use Discord for that. It's useful but not irreplaceable. And since some sites doesn't work for me on Opera (like Quora), but works in any other browser... I don't really know why's that, but I don't want to wait till it resolves itself. Chrome works in more cases than Opera. And Opera doesn't want to fix the very basic feature, which is updating the browser.

I'm waiting till Opera starts to care for people. When they fix the updater and adds the tab groups... I will be more glad to use it.

I just want to say, that the issue hasn't been resolved, even after I clean installed everything. Even with registry cleaner and everything. I removed profile and cache, installed everything from scratch and nothing. I even not changed default installation path, so maybe it will work. But nope.

The reason why I never replied after that is just because I'm very sick and tired of trying to do ridiculous things that won't work over and over again. This issue isn't from my side by any means. Opera is the only program that can't auto update for me. Not even third party software that checks newest version has seen Opera in "there is new version, let's install it". It keeps installing Java or Firefox from time to time, but Opera is never on the list of updates in that program. And the thing that it's been on two, maybe three different devices is just a proof that it has nothing to do with my settings. Because even clean install doesn't work. On my current PC, the Opera never has been working in the update thing. Even though I clean installed it when I first got my PC.

I really want just a solution that will work. Why do I have to stress out and try annoying things, just to make browser works as intended? It should be working right after installing. And I can understand that it can just not work sometimes. But it doesn't work for whole year on this PC and before that it didn't work on previous PC either. Even after clean installing few times and checking stuff. I don't really have time to spend hours, days, months to keep fixing a browser, that just doesn't work for no reason.

And yeah, I am rather annoyed by that fact. When I was trying to fix Opera month ago for 2 weeks, nothing helped. I have other things to do with my life than trying to fix browser for that long.

@burnout426 By just going to opera://bookmarks/ when I hit Export button, it will save all speed dials and tabs on bookmark bar to one file, right? I don't have manually select which bookmark things I want to make backup of? Just want to be sure, better safe than sorry.

Also is there a way to make backup of search engines? As I don't want to make like 75 search engines from the scratch all the time (this is how much I currently have, and I really use them all, pretty much regularly). I can see the search engines are mentioned in the reddit post, but I don't really understand which step saves them. And this is crucial for me. Speed dial, bookmarks and search engines. Saves passwords too, but they are less important. I can always just log in again.

Also, extension setting are stored in Profile in Extensions folder? Or Extensions State? Would be nice if I didn't need to restore the setting from backup files too.

I really don't need the rest. It will fill up later. I mean... I can do full restore, but isn't it making the whole process futile? If there is something off with the installation or profile, restoring it will cause it to happen again, right?

Unfortunatelly, disbaling addons didn't help.

@burnout426 I've done those App & browser control things. Though, by exception You mean in firewall? or where exactly.

About that code... it seems like something related to crashing. But I don't know. Executable files crashes because of memory access violation. Though I don't know how to fix if there is such problem.

There is one thing I want to try, though. I just disabled all addons. Now I'm going to restart browser to check if anything happens. Though I think I don't have anything except Tampermonkey on Dev and Beta, because I don't need extensions there.

@burnout426 It found something, shall I copy it there? It says the source is from Windows Error Reporting, some fault bucket, it shows attached files from AppData and ProgramData. And it finds multiple things with same things shown, but files in AppData\Local\Temp has different .tmp filename (and it's a folder called like that). The errors are very same, but the Opera version is different. The temp files doesn't exist. Tried to go to that folder but the last folder I can go from the path is \Temp, because the RDR5849.tmp folder doesn't exist. Maybe because I cleaned things recently from my PC and it cleans temporary files too. Okay, I just copy the content of that log there:

Fault bucket 1641447264806674071, type 5

Event Name: RADAR_PRE_LEAK_64

Response: Not available

Cab Id: 0



Problem signature:

P1: opera.exe

P2: 75.0.3969.93

P3: 10.0.19042.2.0.0

P4: 

P5: 

P6: 

P7: 

P8: 

P9: 

P10: 



Attached files:

\\?\C:\Users\Mateusz\AppData\Local\Temp\RDR5849.tmp\empty.txt

\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER584A.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml

\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER585B.tmp.xml



These files may be available here:





Analysis symbol: 

Rechecking for solution: 0

Report Id: 65c00c43-cae5-4212-82ba-65c9153fa34b

Report Status: 268435456

Hashed bucket: c55469168935a0fd26c7979730569e97

Cab Guid: 0

I hope this will help in anything... Google says the RADAR_PRE_LEAK_64 is memory leak, but it doesn't make sense for the problem. Why would memory leak if happened would affect autoupdate, while Opera actually works pretty fine except that update issue.

This is the log of the newest event, though it shown more than one and all of them were similar, just different temp file and Opera version. But it seems it's one per version I used. Since 73 I only updated Opera when new version came. Before that, I had few 72 Operas etc. The last one is for 71. There is no more logs there.

Now for the launcher.exe... It seems it doesn't find anything.

opera_autoupdate.exe shows APPCRASH as an event name.
Fault bucket 1557648141196704492, type 4

Event Name: APPCRASH

Response: Not available

Cab Id: 0



Problem signature:

P1: opera_autoupdate.exe

P2: 0.0.0.0

P3: 6058ea05

P4: opera_autoupdate.exe

P5: 0.0.0.0

P6: 6058ea05

P7: c0000005

P8: 000000000014d4df

P9: 

P10: 



Attached files:

\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER3149.tmp.mdmp

\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER3198.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml

\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER31A9.tmp.xml



These files may be available here:

\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportArchive\AppCrash_opera_autoupdate_7c1fc6f2c63e471372b15415f47b7ee9bd4976_d25185e8_952a7778-c06e-4442-8582-862547db1280



Analysis symbol: 

Rechecking for solution: 0

Report Id: d011d766-a7ce-4bba-b5f2-ae66f3bf4e69

Report Status: 268435456

Hashed bucket: 745d046f01b321a3159de0bb4d13baec

Cab Guid: 0

Then I've got this as a next one

Faulting application name: opera_autoupdate.exe, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x6058ea05

Faulting module name: opera_autoupdate.exe, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x6058ea05

Exception code: 0xc0000005

Fault offset: 0x000000000014d4df

Faulting process id: 0x48f8

Faulting application start time: 0x01d722f90adf7262

Faulting application path: F:\Opera\75.0.3969.93\opera_autoupdate.exe

Faulting module path: F:\Opera\75.0.3969.93\opera_autoupdate.exe

Report Id: d011d766-a7ce-4bba-b5f2-ae66f3bf4e69

Faulting package full name: 

Faulting package-relative application ID: 

F:\ was my usb stick, when You told me to install it as standalone. But other than that it doesn't find anything more than those with opera_autoupdate.exe

About uninstalling Operas. As I told before, this is the one thing I won't do. Just because I did that once and my speeddial or tabs (don't recall) was cleared. I fear this bug can occur twice. And with so many tabs I should check out, i can't risk losing them. Unless there is a way to save them as a file and then back up from that files. But I must be sure that I can get speeddials, tabs and search engines, because those are things I don't want to lose. Especially that search engines are not available in sync either and I use like 50 or more search engines for many many stuff. And I really use them regularly. Like Google translate from my language to dozen of other languages and from those languages back to my and this is already many search engines.

Pinging the autoupdate.geo.opera.com didn't show any errrors. 0% loss and it was done quickly with low ping. I really would clean install Operas once again. But You see, I once lost my data because it didn't get my things from the sync for some reason. This is the only reason I won't uninstall and clean all the files from Opera. I would do that already if that wasn't the case. And since I bought new PC I had to do that anyway, but I had my Opera data on old PC if anything went wrong. But right now if I clean everything and sync won't work... I would lose so many things. I should really clean thsoe tabs some day. I wanted to make a local site with links to those tabs. Thought it's not something I would do in a days. More likely months. Cleaning, chosing the tabs I want to have, making the local html file with good looking style and the code that works... With thousands of tabs, it's really painful.

@burnout426 How do I know if I am part of a family? By having other accounts listed in "family members"? Then I don't have any other accounts other than the test one, that is set as Other user.

@donq That's why it doesn't make sense. Everything works in the same conditions on another account.

But when i tried to give permissions to all users it give me error popup. "Failed to enumerate objects in the container. Access is denied.". Though it seems the permissions has been granted anyway. But Opera still doesn't allow me to check updates. Oh, it was very different folder. I mean, the browsers but folder of Old Opera (not current line). Opera 12.18

Also no... I didn't read Windows event logs because I have no idea how to read them and I don't really know if we are even saying about the same log. You mean Event viewer? It's too complicated to know what's going on here.

Also, I'm not sure, but could it be because I could have turn on something like "Opera schedule autoupdate" things? I may have done it in the past. But I don't even know where to enable it if I did. I know Opera used to have something like that. Oh, I have found it. In Task Scheduler. And all of them were Ready. I set it as Running. Though it still doesn't do anything.

I really have no clue what's happening.

@leocg @burnout426
So if everything works fine in the same conditions, what else can it be? This is all ridiculous. It's against any kind of logic I feel like it will never change to normal.

@burnout426 Okay, I just did that and... it worked on new user. I tried (earlier and now) to change Opera language to polish, but didn't work. I don't really want to change Windows language, as because I google things up (about Windows), I can find what they are about. Because if they tell me to type english name of the service and I use polish... then it can be called compeltely different. But, yeah... new installation on new user make Opera works just fine.

I used local non-admin account to do that. And that way Opera update worked as intended. it checked and said there is no updates.

I didn't change any setting in the instaler. It installed Opera in AppData or something, whithout me changing anything.

@leocg Well, I am using the newest Opera since 75 came out. 75.0.3969.93. Downloaded it few days ago, then made this forum thread.

So what could it possibly mean if standalone Opera in standard path make it work? And Windows was in polish I think, by default. Does it mean that it's path error? it's really a shame if it is, because I wanted to have standalone path for browsers. However most of them doesn't allow to change path anyway... From my 19 browsers, only Opera and Vivaldi allowed me to chose a path. All Chromes, Braves, Firefox, IE and Edge didn't.

Now something odd happened. Not sure what caused it, but I opened Opera Beta to try to install new update, but it was still like in other cases. Greyed out "checking" for ever. But now i see the Opera logo with red background and dot. Just above "Settings" it says to get the latest security update, but in Update & Recovery page it still doesn't update anything. The "Get the latest security update" links to https://www.opera.com/computer/beta.

To be clear, I Opened Beta Opera when in connection with my wifi router in smartphone, but it didn't work. I swapped connection back to ethernet and was writing the reply above, and when I send it I just looked around and seen this. Not sure what's going on, but checking for updates is still not working, though it somehow tells me to get the latest security updates with the aforementioned dot, that I haven't seen for so long.

I also opened Opera Dev too and will see if it will get the same dot after a while.

My current version of Beta/Dev are: 69.0.3686.30 and 70.0.3728.0. I didn't upgrade it to the latest, because I use them as a "maybe it will work, so I will see it's going to update". Because if something will fix the issue, I could just use Dev/Beta to check for updates and if it will work, I will se it immediatelly.

@leocg Stupid question. But how do I create a new account on Windows 10? All I can do is change my current account. I never really had to do this before, so I completely doesn't know how to do it.

About different ISP, You are actually lucky I have internet connection on my smartphone, otherwise I couldn't check this.
But nope. I disabled ethernet connection I use all the time and made wifi router via bluetooth on my smartphone and connected my PC to it. But it works the same. Still greyed out etc.

I also asked my sister earlier, she lives in different place, but has the same ISP, if she uses Opera. She does and I asked her if she can update the browser. She could have and it worked as desired.

@burnout426 My old notebook had... I think AMD? I'm not sure. My old desktop PC had Intel, but don't remember which exactly. Wait, I may have saved it on my documents. Yes! I had i5-4590 on previous PC. And currently I have i7-10700K.

I use english Windows in Poland region. But I kept dates, clocks and keyboard polish. So generally everything I see is written in english, but Windows know I am from Poland and dates/hours are all in polish. Also I think some other things are written in polish. For example my local group is not called Administrators but Administratorzy (which is the same word in polish).

And no, USB Opera didn't work. I will try installing Opera in regular path, without changing anything on new user, when I figure out how to make a new account in Windows 10, as I never did that before, because I never needed to do so. The last time I needed multiple users were in XP, however I did this in Vista or Seven too. Maybe 8. Not sure. But since I didn't really need it, I haven't used multiple accounts for very long time. I will try to search for it in Google. Then will try installing Opera as mentioned above.