I agree. It's one of my bugbears. A simple solution would be to do as Firefox does. E.g., have a blue bar at the top of the active tab.

Windows does similar with the active applications on the task bar.

My history with my default browser is that you eventually get to a point where some version is almost perfectly optimised to the way you like to browse, with or without supplementary extensions. Then new features get added that may be mildly annoying but you can tweak things a bit, then more features get added (that may included removing existing ones and/or making them worse), then you get sufficiently pissed off to give another browser a try. That browser is usually lacking with respect to some features you are used to. But you stick with it and over time it becomes optimal again. Then they start ruining the experience for you and the cycle starts again!

@lk-hemant Edge is also based on Chromium, so Microsoft has applied some functionality on top of it to do this. In theory, they could bake whatever they've done into the Chromium codebase if the community accepted. Since joining Chromium they have made a few contributions. But, on the other hand, all the Chromium browsers are in competition with each other, so they wouldn't want to propose everything they develop for themselves!

In the meantime I'd say just switch to Edge for situations where you want to use its particular features. I do that kind of thing often. Opera is my default but I switch to Vivaldi for some tasks and have done the same with Edge previously.

@leocg it would be nice if you could do that. The old Opera was more flexible in this, although I was only a very occasional user of the old Opera.

I think the way Firefox works in full screen mode is the way to go, but the other browsers don't do it.

I.e., move mouse to the top of the screen and the address bar and tabs become available.

@yanta said in Microsoft switches to Chromium:

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I'm afraid Opera could lose market shares to Microsoft if MS should succeed in developing a browser with a nice UI and some useful additional features.

For myself it has proven quite hard to shift me from whatever has been my preferred browser. I was a Firefox user for well over a decade. I've now switched to Opera as default (although I still use Firefox). Edge will have to replicate the features of Opera that I've discovered to be compelling to get me to switch.

I should say though that I do not find any one browser to be superior to all other in all respects. Hence I have several installed and occasionally have a need to use one of the others - even Edge as it happens!

@stevencee moving the mouse over the magnifying glass lets you see the zoom level. Though it would be nice to be able to see at a glance what setting you're at.

You can also zoom in and out using one-click keyboard shortcuts. By default 0, 6, + and -. You have to enable one-click keyboard shortcuts first though.

Also Ctrl+ mouse wheel if on Windows.

@atomicthumbs I fully agree! In fact one of the main reasons why I switched from Firefox to Opera after well over a decade with Firefox was precisely because of Opera's vertical tab cycler. I thought it was a near-perfect implementation with the previews. It just needed a tweak to stop accidental interference from the mouse.

I used to use Tab Mix Plus for this in Firefox Classic but when Quantum was released we had to settle for the horizontal tab cycler that is even worse than the current Opera implementation.

The flag to disable the horizontal cycler did work OK in 67 but is, as you say, broken in 68.

68 also broke my instant search customisation, where I had set it up to do tab search only, by default. I'd set this up as F2. Now I get both tabs and sites but I can live with that or possibly tweak it back again. I haven't tried. Plus I know you can get tab search through the new magnifying glass or Ctrl+Space.

I do wish devs would stop fixing what ain't broken. I don't mind if they add new features or even change defaults. But don't break previous behaviour unless you're sure that a replacement is superior.

It's not just Opera though. The whole industry is guilty - and I'm a dev myself!

Looks like I may have to implement your fix - although I also live with instant tab search. Yet another major reason why I switched from Firefox!

(Edit: I now have back my F2 which just does tab search, which is fine by me - and the old Ctrl+Tab. Thanks @atomicthumbs But I bet it gets broken again in 69!)

At the moment I have Opera as default and Vivaldi as No. 2 but I can easily see this being reversed given a few more "improvements."

Just tried. Oh man, that is bad. Must be a regression surely?

@tioosaminha if you don't care for specific features then don't use them and/or disable them. Don't assume other users have no use for them. We are all different.

The way to improve the visual tab cycler and make more tabs visible is to restore the vertical one!

@saltyfox how are they a problem if you don't use them?

@watamote as was mentioned above you should try Vivaldi, as it's much more customisable for this kind of thing.

Currently, Opera is my default and Vivaldi is No. 2. I switch to Vivaldi for specific tasks.

Another option is to use tab search - though it depends on your remembering at least a part of the page title,

@finalni No issue here.

@jobe1980 you can customise keyboard shortcuts in Opera but it doesn't look like you can for the listed search engines. But you can do so with the similar feature in Vivaldi.

I did notice in the Opera settings that there was an option to use tab instead of space after the b. But when I tried that it didn't work, i.e., b + space still invoked Bing.

@bbcpl: Ditto, no tab scrolling option.

@sgunhouse adding a space before the b doesn't work. Quoting, or just a leading quote is fine. Also b&m.

@kendavies91945 FYI Brave Search is now 1.0 as of six days ago. So Opera could add it as a default option.

@lk-hemant Edge is also based on Chromium, so Microsoft has applied some functionality on top of it to do this. In theory, they could bake whatever they've done into the Chromium codebase if the community accepted. Since joining Chromium they have made a few contributions. But, on the other hand, all the Chromium browsers are in competition with each other, so they wouldn't want to propose everything they develop for themselves!

In the meantime I'd say just switch to Edge for situations where you want to use its particular features. I do that kind of thing often. Opera is my default but I switch to Vivaldi for some tasks and have done the same with Edge previously.

@kitkat986 In general the most annoying habit of software vendors is the removal of features, especially when there is no replacement or only inferior ones. Opera is still my default browser but it is nevertheless worse than it was two or three years ago from my perspective. But all software vendors occasionally "improve" their software in this manner.

@entropy72 said in Add Brave as a search engine!:

@kjemikael I feel exactly the same way. I've added it as a search engine, which is easy enough in Opera, but you Cannot make it the default which is just stupid. Looking around, I can see setting custom search engines as default has been requested from as far back as 2015!

I love opera dearly, but until this is resolved and either Brave added as a search engine or the ability to set custom SE's as default is resolved, I too may have to switch to the Brave browser. Its not something I want to do, but this is a pretty mission critical function.

This is a surprising oversight. You can do it in Vivaldi, for example - though without the auto-suggest feature (or I haven't figured out how to do it).