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@huijingfei isn't that just a function of your being restricted in China?
@ultrastriker Or do the same as Firefox's overflow menu.
@sgunhouse said in Google Slim Go:
Microsoft may have wanted Windows XP to go away, but I know some major companies still use it. You think Google can do what Microsoft can't?
They may be about to run into the same issue with Windows 7 soon.
@coffeelover My take is that in a Lounge forum we can be a bit more free-wheeling. But in the help forums I wouldn't appreciate posters banging on about other browsers - unless it's along the lines of "can Opera have a feature similar to browser X's, blah, blah" rather than "Opera sucks, use Chrome."
@wojcieche In terms of the way Opera 15+ came about I agree with you. I'm not especially fussed about needing to change the name but certainly they could have left Opera 12.x as the default while informing users that there will be a radical incompatible change to Opera 15 in due course and Opera 12 will be patched for the next year or whatever. During that time 15 would then get better and better. Of course, there would still be many unsatisfied customers but at least they wouldn't have been suddenly faced with an initial bare-bones Opera 15 for a new installation. Personally, it didn't affect me as, although I had old Opera installed, I was a very light occasional user. Firefox Classic -> Quantum caused similar fireworks because of the junking of the more powerful legacy extensions model.
Re: Opera vs Vivaldi design approaches, I can see a need for both. Most people, most of the time do want something bare bones. That's one reason why Chrome took off. In my case its simplicity was a reason why it didn't take off for me and I stuck with Firefox back then.
In the current situation, Vivaldi is more customisable than Opera but Opera is customisable enough for me for most purposes. But when I have a need to do some specific task I might turn to Vivaldi. E.g., I like its screen-split feature when I'm reading technical content for example, so I can refer to explanations to diagrams or formulas. No doubt Vivaldi has lots of other features that I've yet to discover that I might find usable. It takes time, just as it's taken me time to customise Opera the way I like.
@sgunhouse I have Vivaldi installed but so far haven't used it very heavily. But I did get the impression it's not yet quite as polished as Opera.
@uxbal as coffeelover says, there's no harm in trying it. I've actually had it installed for a very very long time and only just now switched to it as default! Lol.
But, as said, lots of distinctive features behind its surface appearance, but it might take you a while to discover them.
I too am a heavy Google product (on the software side) user and have had no issues. I do have the Android mobile versions installed but I'm new to Android, so I haven't really investigated those yet. I actually default to Edge on Android at the moment, mainly because of its reader view - and I'm a refugee from Windows Mobile.
Opera itself has been around for decades. And someone just posted the current financial results here so you can check.
@s390g2
Moving in the right direction. Profitable and growing. But it deserves to be at least at Firefox's market share imo.
@yanta said in Microsoft switches to Chromium:
I'm afraid Opera could lose market shares to Microsoft if MS should succeed in developing a browser with a nice UI and some useful additional features.
For myself it has proven quite hard to shift me from whatever has been my preferred browser. I was a Firefox user for well over a decade. I've now switched to Opera as default (although I still use Firefox). Edge will have to replicate the features of Opera that I've discovered to be compelling to get me to switch.
I should say though that I do not find any one browser to be superior to all other in all respects. Hence I have several installed and occasionally have a need to use one of the others - even Edge as it happens!
@yanta I've only in the past couple of weeks moved from Firefox to Opera as default, after having been a Firefox user for over a decade.
Edge moving to Chromium is both a plus and a minus.
It's a plus as it makes developers and consumers lives easier re websites "working" more widely.
It's a plus because Microsoft will be adding code to Chromium, which provides a complement to Google's ideas and also could lead to improved behaviour and performance of all Chromium browsers on Windows, for example.
It's a minus because of the centralisation of bugs and security vulnerabilities.