@lk-hemant Edge is also based on Chromium, so Microsoft has applied some functionality on top of it to do this. In theory, they could bake whatever they've done into the Chromium codebase if the community accepted. Since joining Chromium they have made a few contributions. But, on the other hand, all the Chromium browsers are in competition with each other, so they wouldn't want to propose everything they develop for themselves!

In the meantime I'd say just switch to Edge for situations where you want to use its particular features. I do that kind of thing often. Opera is my default but I switch to Vivaldi for some tasks and have done the same with Edge previously.

@leocg it would be nice if you could do that. The old Opera was more flexible in this, although I was only a very occasional user of the old Opera.

I think the way Firefox works in full screen mode is the way to go, but the other browsers don't do it.

I.e., move mouse to the top of the screen and the address bar and tabs become available.

I agree. It's one of my bugbears. A simple solution would be to do as Firefox does. E.g., have a blue bar at the top of the active tab.

Windows does similar with the active applications on the task bar.

@leocg "full screen with tabs visible makes no sense to me."

That's why it's a toggle operation. You mouse up, click on another tab or navigate in address bar and you automatically return to full screen on that new tab.

Anyway, I shall request it as you suggest.

I notice that when you mouse over a tab it goes distinctively grey but once activated it turns to indistinguishable black. Why not keep it as grey? That would surely be an easy fix. Contrast this with the dark theme in Vivaldi for example. The latter is fine.

My history with my default browser is that you eventually get to a point where some version is almost perfectly optimised to the way you like to browse, with or without supplementary extensions. Then new features get added that may be mildly annoying but you can tweak things a bit, then more features get added (that may included removing existing ones and/or making them worse), then you get sufficiently pissed off to give another browser a try. That browser is usually lacking with respect to some features you are used to. But you stick with it and over time it becomes optimal again. Then they start ruining the experience for you and the cycle starts again!

Just tried. Oh man, that is bad. Must be a regression surely?

@atomicthumbs I fully agree! In fact one of the main reasons why I switched from Firefox to Opera after well over a decade with Firefox was precisely because of Opera's vertical tab cycler. I thought it was a near-perfect implementation with the previews. It just needed a tweak to stop accidental interference from the mouse.

I used to use Tab Mix Plus for this in Firefox Classic but when Quantum was released we had to settle for the horizontal tab cycler that is even worse than the current Opera implementation.

The flag to disable the horizontal cycler did work OK in 67 but is, as you say, broken in 68.

68 also broke my instant search customisation, where I had set it up to do tab search only, by default. I'd set this up as F2. Now I get both tabs and sites but I can live with that or possibly tweak it back again. I haven't tried. Plus I know you can get tab search through the new magnifying glass or Ctrl+Space.

I do wish devs would stop fixing what ain't broken. I don't mind if they add new features or even change defaults. But don't break previous behaviour unless you're sure that a replacement is superior.

It's not just Opera though. The whole industry is guilty - and I'm a dev myself!

Looks like I may have to implement your fix - although I also live with instant tab search. Yet another major reason why I switched from Firefox!

(Edit: I now have back my F2 which just does tab search, which is fine by me - and the old Ctrl+Tab. Thanks @atomicthumbs But I bet it gets broken again in 69!)

At the moment I have Opera as default and Vivaldi as No. 2 but I can easily see this being reversed given a few more "improvements."

@stevencee moving the mouse over the magnifying glass lets you see the zoom level. Though it would be nice to be able to see at a glance what setting you're at.

You can also zoom in and out using one-click keyboard shortcuts. By default 0, 6, + and -. You have to enable one-click keyboard shortcuts first though.

Also Ctrl+ mouse wheel if on Windows.

@lucasnorthmi51959 I have several browsers installed too. Main reasons are 1 I'm curious to see what they have to offer that's different from their competitors 2 I find that no one browser is better than all others in every respect. So, depending on context, I sometimes switch for specific tasks.

@kuroodo: I switched to Vivaldi some time ago (and this was pre-Opera One) for a couple of reasons. Prior to this, Vivaldi had been No. 2. It's now Vivaldi 1 Opera 2. One of the reasons I switched was because I started getting into the Chat AIs and various extensions would not work in Opera while they did in Vivaldi. There was another reason that I can't remember now. I've not noticed any performance issues. Someone else mentioned that it was buggy. Well, the only major problem I've encountered is random crashing when I click on certain links. The UI just disappears! It hasn't happened for a while but it was about once every week or two. The last time it happened I restarted and clicked back on the same link and it was fine.

However, for me, the best Opera was before they switched to the horizontal tab cycler. The vertical tab cycler was the major reason I switched to Opera from Firefox in the first place! Also there was an earlier version of tab search which I thought was better than it is now. For a short while the changes were customisable. Anyway, I still stuck with Opera after what I considered usability regressions. But then a tipping point arrived. I also have Brave, Edge and Chrome on my desktop. And Firefox is still on my laptop but not PC. I do occasionally run up Edge and Brave for specific purposes. But for overall customisability I'm happy with Vivaldi - but nothing is cast in stone. In general I've not found any one browser to be better in all aspects. So, for me it's always a question of which is best for me overall.

Ah, yes I remember what reason 2 was. I wanted to set Brave as default search engine, which is not possible in Opera (I assume that's still the case). I could set a shortcut to brave in the address bar. However, I also wanted the autosuggest feature to be accessible which was not via that method. But in Vivaldi I can have both - Brave as default and autosuggest.

@nbvdv It's a longstanding request for Opera to allow any search engine as default. I've recently switched to Vivaldi as default (it's been my No. 2 for a few years). One reason for doing so was that I'd reached the point where I could not set Brave Search as default, having decided I wanted to use it instead of DuckDuckGo. Other reasons are to do with some key Chat AI extensions that don't work with Opera.

However, it doesn't mean I don't still use Opera. I have several browsers installed on various devices.

@dumbldor Given your situation your best bet is to try Vivaldi where you have complete flexibility in this area. And Vivaldi has a lot in common with Opera in terms of features, so you wouldn't find it that alien. I regularly hop between Opera and Vivaldi depending on what I'm doing.

I'm assuming there aren't some weird restrictions on Vivaldi in Russia though!

@bklynkid Since you can't set it as default the next best thing is to use a keyboard shortcut in the address bar. E.g., s "search query."

E.g., here's my setup

Inflexibility in setting default search is a long-standing complaint. Opera should just exactly copy Vivaldi on this.

@pheonixflame2130 I just tried "b positive" (including quotes) with DuckDuckGo as default and it did a DuckDuckGo search. Also works with Google as default. In fact, I think you only need the start quote.

Anyway, that's the workaround until Opera decides to allow editability in this area.

@A Former User said in I don't care about cookies:

The extension does not differentiate between information related to cookies and legitimate information (for example, an order confirmation message or a form error message, etc.), which prevents the proper functioning of most sites.

I've never noticed this. Maybe some sites don't function. Certainly not "most."

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Yeah Opera is so overloaded with settings and options and such a resource hog I uninstalled it which was sad. Trying to definitely get away from Chrome but also FF as it's kind of a resource hog but still using it and Vivaldi.

Not many options left then as it's either Firefox and its forks or Chromium-based browsers or Safari!

The fact is they all use a lot of memory, to some extent by design. If you have sufficient memory on your device it doesn't matter. I've tried a variety of browsrs over the years and have several installed and tbh I've never worried a bout them being "resource hogs."

@baligo Do you not see this in Easy Setup (click icon at top right of toolbar)

@baligo You can enable it via early access. I can't remember offhand how. But I found it doesn't work, so I disabled it again.

@rcastel I get the same and briefly even worse! I was on the same Opera and Chromium versions. However, it then auto-updated

Version:97.0.4719.43
Chromium version:111.0.5563.111

But no change.

However, in Opera, shouldn't it also be showing the Chat link, even if you're not signed in?

E.g., I just loaded the Bing page in Brave (not signed in) and it shows he Chat link.