Posts made by john-phd

@snipernation317 OMG I'm dying!!! Lol

@snipernation317 Oh I know! I don't even have this issue anymore, but perhaps I have it in my mind to conduct these ongoing social experiments just to see if anything pans out.

Even if it doesn't, I learn from everything and it strengthens and fortifies my opinions.

Next, some 20 year old will say "you have not idea what you're talking about old man, you shouldn't quit" but after 30+ years of forums running in circles, what else do they do? I have an issue with Samsun as well, and their S series. Problem goes back to 2007 in the forums, and re-itterates whenever a new model phone comes out, same problem.

@lkays2014 Ok, so did you have a point, or do you just not realize that you are being condescendiing? I mean, the problem for me was resolved, and if it recurrs, I will probably (passively) pursue it. But at the same time, basic psychology .... you keep using my name and while you might think this addresses a public audience, it really doesn't. You are trying to be that annoying jerk-off that looks at the one guy in the room that he's realling talking about, when talking shit to a group. It's annoying, and kind of childish. It's also not at all productive. Depending on the situation, it migh provoke a punch to the face if in person, because I too can be childish.

I don't really care about your problems, that you don't use punctuation and blame your kids for it. As a parent, this is a reality, but also as an adult, when I post I usually do it at convenient times so I can say what I intend to say. That's just being a grown up

@lkays2014

On a lark I looked further into eartrumpet. I mean, why not? It was last updated in 2016 (that's not good), it is x86 architecture so it's unlikely to be forward compatible, and when I attempted to download and install, nothing at all happened.

This can be one of two things

1. Windows policy won't allow it (it's a work computer, it's out of my hands).
2. It's too old, and won't install (my guess, and probably the actual reason).

This convinces me that it had some qualities people like, because whenever that happens Microsoft uses updates that move ahead of the software market forcing companies to further develop (costing money). It's free, so they didn't. This lets Microsoft scoop up their stocks if they want to, and absorb their technology and hide their patents when they liquidate. It's been happening since the mid 1990s. Lower the value of the competition, buy them, make it your own.

But I digress. Very briefly, this did not work in this instance.

@lkays2014

some of my comments (bold)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jqmtzfBOiuQJ6Wf4O5CUKCxqOcfS_i6g/view?usp=drive_link
This was 4 seconds long showing someone how to get to the microsoft store. Not sure the relevance

2. Search for the app called ear trumpet. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gPkYJney0DZWAUyncBj0n4FleMKJRT21/view?usp=drive_link
   My problem was with no sound in opera. You cannot amplify sound that does not exist.

then download the app called ear trumpet, https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YqP2NKi04SbruQCVxf2AW1LzwJwtz9wY/view?usp=drive_link
Oh, how to download a program.... thank you so much

and finally use the app called ear trumpet https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wRCys2VX7ZbXV75i2bgkxnyAebtRGMBo/view?usp=drive_link
See comments to point 2. There is no sound, what I read about ear trumpet is that it is a "very powerful volume control". I have a volume control, I even have amplified speakers. You can amplify something that isn't there. The sound signal does not exist in Opera. This can probably be explained more technically, but in layman's terms, there is no sound being produced by Opera browser

Now that I have it all laid out for you (and even in video form no less), let's address your previous points.

1. point number one is that your idea of it being an audio card issue etc. etc. is not the case as I've had the exact same issue down to the letter now. What you may ask is "then why are you using brave browser in your videos?" It is simply because I prefer brave over the other browsers out there currently and back when I found and tested this solution, I preferred opera.
   Referring to my comments on point 2 and point 4 (not numbered) there is no sound, therefore your problem is not exactly like my problem. I want to say (I am on my lunchbreak and my time is valuble to me) that someone brought up eartrumpet in an earlier post but I'm not going to go look for it right now.

2. Now john, my own very valid point. This audio issue is in no way windows related. it is in no way audio card related. This is an opera issue. It cannot be fixed in the opera settings (I have tried). It cannot be fixed in windows sound settings (I have tried). It cannot be fixed by rebooting the computer (i have tried). Is there anything I'm missing? Heck, it's been awhile but I've probably tried that too ear trumpet was the only solution. If there are any more questions. I have even recorded videos laying out the steps for you if you ever want to simply try them again.
   yes of course your point is valid. Why seek validation when you can declare yourself valid? Genius. I know this is not audio card related, I think I said that myself in the very beginning. The sound card works well, but since no sound is produced inOpera, it rather removes the sound card from the equation. That's basic troubleshooting, and I dismissed that long before creating this thread. There is that eartrumpet reference again....... you really like that don't you?

to end this little step by step tutorial for any future users who have this issue john, by the very fact that you have stated your field of expertise, most people will in fact infer that you are smart.
I never stated my field of expertise. But as it sounded like a jab, I'm a research scientist since you seem to be pointing out "what does a dishwasher know anyway?" or something. I have had computers as my hobby for a very long time. I don't do it professionally, exactly, and that is not the point and therefore it doesnt' matter

For those who have had this issue and still have this issue, this solution is for you. @NH2022 is the one who recommended it and it was only due to this I was able to diagnose and fix the problem, so all props go to him, thanks man

As a side note, I wanted to add that if it were as simple as muting or unmuting the speaker from the task bar, I can say with 100% certainty that I would have figured out such a simple solution.
Of couse you would. But then, you also suggest adding another sound control on top of the sound control to solve something that is not created by sound control

But the opera audio bug is a hidden mute button that somehow gets activated accidentally,
**where is it hidden? I would like to know, as would many others? It was not hidden in older versions. Or, it could be that it was removed and is a software bug as many (including me) suspect. But what the hell would I know? I thought all software was the same, as you say a little later on. **

and the only way to enable it is by either downloading and installing ear trumpet or, as you have said, waiting several months after uninstallation for the problem to be solved. However, this solution is immediate, and the answer I'm assuming you have been curious about maybe?
It would have saved me a lot of time writing these comments if you had said that in the beginning instead of wrriting a book, don't you agree? Other readers would have found it much more quickly as well before getting lost in the attempted condescension
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Not all software is the same. In all your knowledge thus far, This is one key factor you seem to be forgetting,
How do you know what I remember, and what I forgot? That is an amazing talent, especially since we have never met.

and it has been the very thing that led you to waste your time
Thank you dad. However, I want to point out that my time is mine, and I can waste it on whatever I see fit.

on so many other posts instead of looking at the one halfway up this thread and just being done with it.
I ignored the posts? Silly me. I thought this was a blog

You just chased a random rabbit instead for amusement, I guess?
You guessed it! That's what I do, chase random rabbits because I have shit else to do. Wow, you really got me. Nailed it bro.

Oh well, moving on;
yes. Please. Move on. Free us.

at least it's here for others later on. Here's the solution to your problem (in the vast majority of cases relating to this issue, I would assume).

@blackbird71 Yes, this was my first question (which @mightysquish did not address, but rather got hopping mad and started rambling about accusations)

But yes... if you consider me accusing you of something @MightySquish , then you must suffer from a guilty conscience. From the beginning and since you have claimed to have read this entire and exhaustive thread, it starts out early on with basic steps.

"ear trumpet" it seems as an app. So to me, this is no differenthn that the many (many ) audio controllers that come OEM or from sound card manufacturers that are just volume controls with extra steps. Adding more layers to that doesn't get to the core of Opera functionality

To refer you to an earlier post of mine, the issue went away after an unstiall and reinstall several months apart, and I am not currently using Opera but keep checking back her to see what people say.

At least it's not marked "Solved" like the unresolved lighting conflict (since 2006, we are approaching 20 years for the S series) on the Samsung series phones that still plague my life.

Nobody claimed being smart, just thorough.

You will have to explain "ear trumpet solution" because where I sit that means absolutely nothing.

I am unsure....no... I'm going to say I am very sure you didn't really read the thread above about this issue. "Unmuting" something is elementary, it's beneath even basic troubleshooting and is something even a novice should know to do ( I am way past novice for a couple of decades).

@mightysquish

@burnout426 yes, and most windows software have commonalities . Take for instance graphics; Photoshop has historically put "Crop" under the image menu, not under the edit menu, GIMP emulates photoshop quite a lot, but others put crop under "edit". Browsers are little different from each other, I'll agree to that. It's good for business, and the users don't have to relearn everything.

However, the problems begin when Chrome has an audio control, and Opera doesn't It took a while before I noticed the mute button in Chrome initially, but nothing in Opera.

I looked at #4, tried it a couple of times but after investing more time that I cared to, and finding nothing, I'll just keep an eye on this thread, and popcorn at the ready.

@burnout426 said in web based media has no sound in Opera:

@john-phd Did you try #4 at https://appuals.com/fix-google-chrome-sound-not-working/. That's what worked for @Jaabadaa.

Well, no not really. That forum is for Chrome, not Opera. However, upon looking (in Opera) choosing a default audio device is not an option that is available. I looked the other day, and I looked today, but no.... no such options can be set that I can find, just usual browser stuff.

I will point out having tried that option is that the sound is back on again. This is after an OS reinstall maybe a year ago, then an OS Upgrade 6 months ago as I decided I needed to install Win10 on my home computer. While this is a fix, it is a drastic one.

I anticipate that it will go out again but like I said in an earlier post, I'll keep this thread open out of curiosity.

I managed to respond to the wrong reply. Disregard

@john-phd said in web based media has no sound in Opera:

@sgunhouse said in web based media has no sound in Opera:

@scav23 In one of these threads I pointed out to people that Windows is capable of adjusting volume for each program separately, and that people need to check Volume Control and see if this is their problem.

-- I know right? It's as if the above (exhaustive) thread was not read. I think I keep track of this for a personal experiment to see what people come up with, and to see if it's ever resolved. It was once resolved, it is somehwere above, in 2011ish, where there was a code hack. It's mystifying how this even happens.

Kind of like my thread on Madagascar 3 in ROKU. It can be traced to like 2008 or 9. Still unresolved. Also unresolved is the Samsung S series light issue. The light is "in use" so the camera and well, nothing works. That goes back to 2006. My father in law was spot on that they don't write new code, they just recycled old bad code and never fix anything.

I know what sandbox is (vaguely) but this command didn't work for me. This is under WIN10 correct? I'm willing to try different syntax, probably a minor glitch in how I entered the command. Very creative answer even if it didn't work for me but it did work for @Jaabadaa so I am encouraged!

@burnout426

@sgunhouse said in web based media has no sound in Opera:

@scav23 In one of these threads I pointed out to people that Windows is capable of adjusting volume for each program separately, and that people need to check Volume Control and see if this is their problem.

-- I know right? It's as if the above (exhaustive) thread was not read. I think I keep track of this for a personal experiment to see what people come up with, and to see if it's ever resolved. It was once resolved, it is somehwere above, in 2011ish, where there was a code hack. It's mystifying how this even happens.

Kind of like my thread on Madagascar 3 in ROKU. It can be traced to like 2008 or 9. Still unresolved. Also unresolved is the Samsung S series light issue. The light is "in use" so the camera and well, nothing works. That goes back to 2006. My father in law was spot on that they don't write new code, they just recycled old bad code and never fix anything.

@bblack4jc This is an easy fix if it works. However, my problem seems to be intrinsic to this browser. The "usual" methods don't work. I may or may not have mentioned your fix already in my thread, but I have done everything including going into the actual code of Opera as much as I am able to to find anything addressing this......

the closest I found was a post from 2011 or 2012, where developer options in Opera had a line (among thousands of lines) to enable sound. This line doesn't exist in new versions I guess. I dislike code for the most part, but I am comfortable tinkering around in it.

Yeah, I not only dumped the cache, I uninstalled it (completely, even registry entries) and then wiped the containing folders associated with Opera. I rebooted for good measure, and reinstalled. Problem remains. This is why I'm stumped!!

@eattherich said in web based media has no sound in Opera:

@john-phd I read through this whole crazy thread because I was having the same issue after installing Opera. People were making some absurd suggestion fixes. After not finding a solution I did some more googling, cleared cookies and cache and restarted Opera. That's it. That worked. Even though it's a new browser, maybe something from importing my chrome settings got corrupted. So there you go. Future peeps looking have a potential solution that doesn't require programmer level knowledge.

@zauberfritz

I am continuing to follow this simply out of curiosity.

To entertain the people that are supposedly "helping" I followed the steps more to prove a point than me thinking any of the solutions would actually work. I learned decades ago that I could meticulously lay out everything I did, and it wouldn't matter one bit. Once, someone in a forum asked for something that windows generates. It was not a log file exactly, but rather a list of installed software with detail that doesn't matter to most people. This contained a lot of details and was 15-20 pages in length, then asked me anyway what software I had etc. It's an exercise in futility. I suppose if I was a first time computer user with zero background, forums may be helpful but I rather doubt it.

But like fishing, maybe I'll catch something I dunno. My "Madagascar 3" thread in the Roku forums is fairly entertaining and equally fruitless.

More to the point, I wasn't looking to recompile the browser or something equally painful and tedious, but rather "is there a volume control somewhere". Chrome has one, and Opera had one at some point several revisions ago. I was looking for a simple answer, not to solve a highly complicated mystery.

@donq Thanks for the insight. But, since this is two completely different computers, and two completely different operating systems, one of which I have no control over (it is a domain install on a work laptop) I cannot wrap my brain around that it is under another user account. I mean, if you read this thread in its entirety, and get past all the circular logic present, having another user account for Opera would probably be within the same realm of possibility as having the sound turn on for me, but not in My profile. After many hours of curiosity gave way to frustration, which led to apathy, I won't be pursuing this any longer. Having pored through the entirety of the windoze operation system within the limits of my knowledge (which is quite a lot) I just don't see it. The software is all installed in my account, in my OS, and so on. My work computer has no additional user accounts, I got it new. It doesn't even have an active Admin account (although it is present if needed by IT). Of Opera has another user, then there is obviously something very wrong in how it's written, and this sort of rogue behavior isn't welcome on my computer.

Pardon me for saying but this thread is going off into the twilight zone, and it's as though I will ultimately end up having to fix the source code or something completely wasteful like that.

I once was a car enthusiast. When one owns a car, replacing a starter, tires, brakes, its all part of it. If you like the car, replacing the motor or transmission is a possibility. However, I have yet to have a car I loved so much that when someone torches it and it burns the the ground, that I'll fix it. It's just how I feel.

But I did come up with a solution, it's working really well so far.

I uninstalled opera completely from both systems and installed Vivaldi and Firefox as alternates. Firefox was abandoned about 2018 by my last university, and in my own experience it completely stopped working properly at that time. However, maybe the Netscape genes will resurface and it will be good. In the meantime, Vivaldi is quite good, I had forgotten about it until I looked up browser options. I could care less about the finer points of the whole internet experience, but I need to have internet access for my work, and things that I do. When I cannot use a Swedish keyboard, have sound, and a host of other small "issues" it's time to set that burning carcass to the side and start anew.

On a side note, when I clicked on the link in my email, it opened up this thread in MSIE and wow, talk about a terrible browser! Buttons didn't work, script didn't work, It's been a while since I've use it, and I never use it intentionally, now I recall why.

Have a great rest of the week.

And.... after some inactivity, this will be marked "solved" I know it.

@ctef The forum doesn't have dates (helpful), but the post from 23 days ago (about November 7) this was suggested but through device manager. Doesn't work.

If I take the laptop away from the docking station, it narrows down to one audio device. The other two appear as a result of being attached to the docking station, and disabling any combination and trying to force it to use any single one of them fails.

It is off topic, but my keyboard is also not recognized in Opera on either system. I cannot type the "at" sign, or Swedish/Norwegian letters that are on my keyboard. I t just seems to have a life all of it's own. This is despite my system settings of a certain soundcard, and language settings for a certain keyboard. Opera just happens to work a little bit better than the competition, which now that I re-read this, may not be the case.

@leocg no shit?