@zauberfritz

I am continuing to follow this simply out of curiosity.

To entertain the people that are supposedly "helping" I followed the steps more to prove a point than me thinking any of the solutions would actually work. I learned decades ago that I could meticulously lay out everything I did, and it wouldn't matter one bit. Once, someone in a forum asked for something that windows generates. It was not a log file exactly, but rather a list of installed software with detail that doesn't matter to most people. This contained a lot of details and was 15-20 pages in length, then asked me anyway what software I had etc. It's an exercise in futility. I suppose if I was a first time computer user with zero background, forums may be helpful but I rather doubt it.

But like fishing, maybe I'll catch something I dunno. My "Madagascar 3" thread in the Roku forums is fairly entertaining and equally fruitless.

More to the point, I wasn't looking to recompile the browser or something equally painful and tedious, but rather "is there a volume control somewhere". Chrome has one, and Opera had one at some point several revisions ago. I was looking for a simple answer, not to solve a highly complicated mystery.

@leocg

So... no answers, just a link to instructions how to post. Ok, let me address the bullet points:

The usual: Yes, it's updated to the most recent version (71.0.3770.198 at home, I assume work is the same), yes I updated Adobe (but if I wait 15 minute, there will be more updates), This should matter, adobe is out of date about every 60 minutes.

I'm using a work laptop (Dell) Windows 10 with all updates as of any work day, as required by my company.) with a typical microsoft office package, and some high end scientific software applications.

Home computer also (Windows 7 Ultimate SP1) with most updates. Opera previously worked here. I will update this to see what happens.

I do not use anti virus, firewall, or anti malware at home (protected at the router by Pi with necessary software), and at work I cannot disable it as it is controlled by the domain.

I purused the threads and found a lot of questions, but no answers. I am using Opera, it works well, but if I should open a news video, or for that matter, anything that has audio, there is no sound. Chrome and TOR work fine, but Opera has some features I like, but it seems to be at the expense of being only partially functional.

The usual: Yes, it's updated to the most recent version, yes I updated Adobe (but if I wait 15 minute, there will be more updates), I don't game, I'm using a work laptop (Dell) Windows 10 with any current updates (no choice). No, there are no software conflicts, if there are I'm running Microsoft products, and some higher end scientific software but no media applications or games. This is a problem on my home computer also (Windows 7 Ultimate SP1) which has a completely different hardware and software config than my work laptop. No games though.

This seems browser specicific and there are no answers I can find. I found one answer online that was 4 years old, and not applicable to newer revisions of Opera. This is applicable to YouTube, any videos on Facebook, or VK, or streaming from news websites etc.

@burnout426 yes, and most windows software have commonalities . Take for instance graphics; Photoshop has historically put "Crop" under the image menu, not under the edit menu, GIMP emulates photoshop quite a lot, but others put crop under "edit". Browsers are little different from each other, I'll agree to that. It's good for business, and the users don't have to relearn everything.

However, the problems begin when Chrome has an audio control, and Opera doesn't It took a while before I noticed the mute button in Chrome initially, but nothing in Opera.

I looked at #4, tried it a couple of times but after investing more time that I cared to, and finding nothing, I'll just keep an eye on this thread, and popcorn at the ready.

What do you mean "player in question". If you refer to my post, in my opera browser, any video has no sound, from any source I have tried online. I cannot speak to the software that is used, as it is likely a very wide range of embedded code. But, using the provided URL, I attached a snap of that. The list of players means absolutely nothing to me. If I were to explicitely (I think that is what you meant) enable sound for each individual website, I would rather pour honey on myself and take a nap on an anthill. I have no time for that sort of nonsense. It's not that important. There are so many websites, so many videos that I could simple go visit and not listen to because of no sound. Changing the setting for each one (aye, there's the rub!! I have not found any information how to do this!) is actually quite stupid. The computer works for me, not the other way around.

opera://media-internals - well, this is fun. It shows that my sound is disabled but there seems to be no options to change or edit this feature. I saw a popup that sends me back to "Experiments" which I did look into a week or so ago. It's a huge list of stuff that I don't care about, and I was not able to find anything dealing with sound while I mucked around in there.

I'm very happy my browser has a high score based on someone else's opinion, and I'm ecstatic that I was correct all along that the sound is disabled.

So I have to ask, is this going anywhere? I just want the sound to work. Is there a way to fix this? I may have insinuated this orginally but for a gentle reminder, I'm asking it again.

@leocg I realize I can uninstall adobe flash. I can uninstall it, but I don't see how that will make media work, when media is dependant on flash sometimes depending on the code. As far as that is concerned, I have little interest in digging around to find the many different video sources that may exist, whether or not they use flash. However, I digress, videos do in fact work in my other browsers so there is that.

Now about the steps to reproduce the problem. I may have already addressed this, but here it is:

I open a video online. It can be in facebook, a news site, or a professional site, it doesn't seem to discriminate where it is sourced. I have no sound. This is every single day, any time I mistakenly open a video using Opera instead of another browser. This is quite a pain if I am attending a meeting online and someone shares something. I open it and remember "oh, damn, I need to open another browser, and log in all over again then click on the link to watch this presentation" when I should be able to do so in the browser I am currently using. As I like Opera better than Chrome or MSIE for the most part, I tend to be forgetful of this little detail at the least opportune moment.

But to any past or future "answers" what missing information? What do you need? Browser, check. OS, check. Websites, check, settings, check. This was all addressed already.

@donq Have I "checked site preferences"? why, yes, I have.

I will beat this dead horse until we are all tired of it, and I'll keep going. "site specific" and "site preferences" for literally any site with a video is not just a ridiculous notion, but completely wasteful of time. I have other browsers, but like most troubleshooters I would like to solve this even if I no longer use it as I don't like loose ends.

For the present, I will have to remember not to use Opera anymore. My earlier remark about baiting myself to ants is how I feel about having to set preferences to possibly dozens or hundreds of sites I might use in the future. I have other things I would rather do, such as use Chrome, MSIE, or TOR in the event I feel absolutely compelled to watch a video AND have sound at the same time, on my work laptop. But for the sake of argument, lets say I don't know where these site settings are.... because I don't know where they are which was implied in my original question, and in my additional responses.

The grahics which I already posted show that sound is disabled. While I am a rocket scietist, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to deduce this. I'm happy that you are a developer, it was not my calling as I found writing code monumentally boring. Among my programming friends, many whom are quite dazzling when it comes to various aspects of programming language, code, multimedia, and so on, know a lot about a little bit of computing so although helpful, what I really need is a "boots on the ground" simple answer on how and where to enable sounds. I don't know if I can put it any more simple than that.

As I beat this dead horse some more, I've said this. I've gone into various areas of Opera, perused forums, now exhaustively for something that a free software product should "just do". I don't really give a shit about youtube or watching cats fall off tables, but as I don't really watch tv the occasional news video, or work related stuff that comes up at meetings is simply a part of my daily life and for some odd-ball reason, Opera ceased to work in this regard.

Sir, as a developer as you have difficulty writing a certain script to do a certain task you know the troubling feeling you get when it's right in front of you and you don't see it. It's like that but something that is stupidly simple, and answers strangely absent.

Reinstall the software. yeah, I could try that since nothing else works, however I suspect that when I install the full copy (not a beta, not a stable standalone) once updated or whatever, the outcome will be the same, it's kind of how I got here probably. I may try that, but since I could care less about coding and how it actually works. The thought of playing around with it for hours in an amateur debugging adventure is not very appealing.

I would imagine that like Chrome, there would be a button that mutes sound somewhere. After all, in my earlier post, it clearly shows sound is disabled. I want to "enable" it. It seems ridiculous to buy a new car because you have a flat tire you know? I was looking more along the lines of the simple answer of turning the sound back to "ON" since there does not seem to be a problem with the browser installation, per se.

And I can say that, because it works fine. Except for the no sound part. I will compare to Chrome for the moment, that with some past update, chrome has placed a mute button atop the browser window. This button allows mute/unmute when you have something with sound. I anticipated something like that. Maybe the developers forgot about that since they wanted it to have all the other bells and whistles but forgot the basics.

I'll humor you.

It didn't work. Which is kind of what I was thinking would be the outcome, since sound is disabled in Opera (per the diagnostic that you referred me to on October 1). I am fairly certain that there is not much wrong with the sound card other than it's an OEM built into a DELL, which I would never purchase for myself but that is only a preference. The presence of two (or three) sound cards to me is a bit lame and redundant, and likely useless but I didn't design it.

Also I'll reiterate what I said earlier on. By the time I get to the forums, I've already tried everything I know, and I know a lot. I could itemize my steps, which would take time and would be ignored, based on quite a lot of previous experience. But since you bring up the topic of Opera developers, in what way can I ask Opera developers (or their technical support) a question? They have adopted the microsoft model for users helping other users in forums which keeps everyone busy and off of their payroll hours. While effective as a business model, there is little ground covered so far in most cases.

On that same topic, you mention that the "default audio output" for opera may not be what I am using. This would be interconnected with my earlier question, "if there is a mute button, where do I find it?" So since you brought it up, where would I find the setting for default sound card settings for Opera? I imagine I would also find the volume and "enable" feature in the same place. A helpful hint is that it is not in windows settings, because the system settings for the sound work for everything else. I would not be surprised if Opera defies the default system settings, but if so, where would I look for that? I know this is possible because Chrome will only use a US keyboard, and I have a Swedish keyboard which is why I use opera as much as I do, It doesn't fight me constantly.

So once more, how do I enable sound in my Opera browser? this is the question.

I thought that it was a little hoaky that 2 (or three) sound cards would be present. So a quick look online shows me that these are what we used to call "virtual devices" which is present in device manager, but is not a physical piece of hardware. It is how the software and drivers are written.

Intel Display audio is a driver for HDMI devices. There is no speakers or audio on my monitor so we can rule that out, and disable it. Odd it even appears in device manager, I am reading that it usually does not.

My tertiary (3rd) audio device is Realtek USB audio. According to what i am seeing, this is the docking station for the laptop, and appears to be a virtual device. This has not worked for Opera, nor have the built in laptop speakers (Realtek sound card, which is physically present) since april. That is, there is no sound whether or not I am connected to the docking station.

So, since I am not using HDMI for audio, I will disable it permanently. It's a loose end. I updated the driver for the USB Audio (which should not matter) and there is no update for the physical soundcard. No dice. I should say no sound in Opera after the update and subsequent reboot.

@snipernation317 OMG I'm dying!!! Lol

@snipernation317 Oh I know! I don't even have this issue anymore, but perhaps I have it in my mind to conduct these ongoing social experiments just to see if anything pans out.

Even if it doesn't, I learn from everything and it strengthens and fortifies my opinions.

Next, some 20 year old will say "you have not idea what you're talking about old man, you shouldn't quit" but after 30+ years of forums running in circles, what else do they do? I have an issue with Samsun as well, and their S series. Problem goes back to 2007 in the forums, and re-itterates whenever a new model phone comes out, same problem.

@lkays2014 Ok, so did you have a point, or do you just not realize that you are being condescendiing? I mean, the problem for me was resolved, and if it recurrs, I will probably (passively) pursue it. But at the same time, basic psychology .... you keep using my name and while you might think this addresses a public audience, it really doesn't. You are trying to be that annoying jerk-off that looks at the one guy in the room that he's realling talking about, when talking shit to a group. It's annoying, and kind of childish. It's also not at all productive. Depending on the situation, it migh provoke a punch to the face if in person, because I too can be childish.

I don't really care about your problems, that you don't use punctuation and blame your kids for it. As a parent, this is a reality, but also as an adult, when I post I usually do it at convenient times so I can say what I intend to say. That's just being a grown up

@lkays2014

On a lark I looked further into eartrumpet. I mean, why not? It was last updated in 2016 (that's not good), it is x86 architecture so it's unlikely to be forward compatible, and when I attempted to download and install, nothing at all happened.

This can be one of two things

1. Windows policy won't allow it (it's a work computer, it's out of my hands).
2. It's too old, and won't install (my guess, and probably the actual reason).

This convinces me that it had some qualities people like, because whenever that happens Microsoft uses updates that move ahead of the software market forcing companies to further develop (costing money). It's free, so they didn't. This lets Microsoft scoop up their stocks if they want to, and absorb their technology and hide their patents when they liquidate. It's been happening since the mid 1990s. Lower the value of the competition, buy them, make it your own.

But I digress. Very briefly, this did not work in this instance.

@lkays2014

some of my comments (bold)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jqmtzfBOiuQJ6Wf4O5CUKCxqOcfS_i6g/view?usp=drive_link
This was 4 seconds long showing someone how to get to the microsoft store. Not sure the relevance

2. Search for the app called ear trumpet. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gPkYJney0DZWAUyncBj0n4FleMKJRT21/view?usp=drive_link
   My problem was with no sound in opera. You cannot amplify sound that does not exist.

then download the app called ear trumpet, https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YqP2NKi04SbruQCVxf2AW1LzwJwtz9wY/view?usp=drive_link
Oh, how to download a program.... thank you so much

and finally use the app called ear trumpet https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wRCys2VX7ZbXV75i2bgkxnyAebtRGMBo/view?usp=drive_link
See comments to point 2. There is no sound, what I read about ear trumpet is that it is a "very powerful volume control". I have a volume control, I even have amplified speakers. You can amplify something that isn't there. The sound signal does not exist in Opera. This can probably be explained more technically, but in layman's terms, there is no sound being produced by Opera browser

Now that I have it all laid out for you (and even in video form no less), let's address your previous points.

1. point number one is that your idea of it being an audio card issue etc. etc. is not the case as I've had the exact same issue down to the letter now. What you may ask is "then why are you using brave browser in your videos?" It is simply because I prefer brave over the other browsers out there currently and back when I found and tested this solution, I preferred opera.
   Referring to my comments on point 2 and point 4 (not numbered) there is no sound, therefore your problem is not exactly like my problem. I want to say (I am on my lunchbreak and my time is valuble to me) that someone brought up eartrumpet in an earlier post but I'm not going to go look for it right now.

2. Now john, my own very valid point. This audio issue is in no way windows related. it is in no way audio card related. This is an opera issue. It cannot be fixed in the opera settings (I have tried). It cannot be fixed in windows sound settings (I have tried). It cannot be fixed by rebooting the computer (i have tried). Is there anything I'm missing? Heck, it's been awhile but I've probably tried that too ear trumpet was the only solution. If there are any more questions. I have even recorded videos laying out the steps for you if you ever want to simply try them again.
   yes of course your point is valid. Why seek validation when you can declare yourself valid? Genius. I know this is not audio card related, I think I said that myself in the very beginning. The sound card works well, but since no sound is produced inOpera, it rather removes the sound card from the equation. That's basic troubleshooting, and I dismissed that long before creating this thread. There is that eartrumpet reference again....... you really like that don't you?

to end this little step by step tutorial for any future users who have this issue john, by the very fact that you have stated your field of expertise, most people will in fact infer that you are smart.
I never stated my field of expertise. But as it sounded like a jab, I'm a research scientist since you seem to be pointing out "what does a dishwasher know anyway?" or something. I have had computers as my hobby for a very long time. I don't do it professionally, exactly, and that is not the point and therefore it doesnt' matter

For those who have had this issue and still have this issue, this solution is for you. @NH2022 is the one who recommended it and it was only due to this I was able to diagnose and fix the problem, so all props go to him, thanks man

As a side note, I wanted to add that if it were as simple as muting or unmuting the speaker from the task bar, I can say with 100% certainty that I would have figured out such a simple solution.
Of couse you would. But then, you also suggest adding another sound control on top of the sound control to solve something that is not created by sound control

But the opera audio bug is a hidden mute button that somehow gets activated accidentally,
**where is it hidden? I would like to know, as would many others? It was not hidden in older versions. Or, it could be that it was removed and is a software bug as many (including me) suspect. But what the hell would I know? I thought all software was the same, as you say a little later on. **

and the only way to enable it is by either downloading and installing ear trumpet or, as you have said, waiting several months after uninstallation for the problem to be solved. However, this solution is immediate, and the answer I'm assuming you have been curious about maybe?
It would have saved me a lot of time writing these comments if you had said that in the beginning instead of wrriting a book, don't you agree? Other readers would have found it much more quickly as well before getting lost in the attempted condescension
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Not all software is the same. In all your knowledge thus far, This is one key factor you seem to be forgetting,
How do you know what I remember, and what I forgot? That is an amazing talent, especially since we have never met.

and it has been the very thing that led you to waste your time
Thank you dad. However, I want to point out that my time is mine, and I can waste it on whatever I see fit.

on so many other posts instead of looking at the one halfway up this thread and just being done with it.
I ignored the posts? Silly me. I thought this was a blog

You just chased a random rabbit instead for amusement, I guess?
You guessed it! That's what I do, chase random rabbits because I have shit else to do. Wow, you really got me. Nailed it bro.

Oh well, moving on;
yes. Please. Move on. Free us.

at least it's here for others later on. Here's the solution to your problem (in the vast majority of cases relating to this issue, I would assume).

@blackbird71 Yes, this was my first question (which @mightysquish did not address, but rather got hopping mad and started rambling about accusations)

But yes... if you consider me accusing you of something @MightySquish , then you must suffer from a guilty conscience. From the beginning and since you have claimed to have read this entire and exhaustive thread, it starts out early on with basic steps.

"ear trumpet" it seems as an app. So to me, this is no differenthn that the many (many ) audio controllers that come OEM or from sound card manufacturers that are just volume controls with extra steps. Adding more layers to that doesn't get to the core of Opera functionality

To refer you to an earlier post of mine, the issue went away after an unstiall and reinstall several months apart, and I am not currently using Opera but keep checking back her to see what people say.

At least it's not marked "Solved" like the unresolved lighting conflict (since 2006, we are approaching 20 years for the S series) on the Samsung series phones that still plague my life.

Nobody claimed being smart, just thorough.

You will have to explain "ear trumpet solution" because where I sit that means absolutely nothing.

I am unsure....no... I'm going to say I am very sure you didn't really read the thread above about this issue. "Unmuting" something is elementary, it's beneath even basic troubleshooting and is something even a novice should know to do ( I am way past novice for a couple of decades).

@mightysquish

@burnout426 yes, and most windows software have commonalities . Take for instance graphics; Photoshop has historically put "Crop" under the image menu, not under the edit menu, GIMP emulates photoshop quite a lot, but others put crop under "edit". Browsers are little different from each other, I'll agree to that. It's good for business, and the users don't have to relearn everything.

However, the problems begin when Chrome has an audio control, and Opera doesn't It took a while before I noticed the mute button in Chrome initially, but nothing in Opera.

I looked at #4, tried it a couple of times but after investing more time that I cared to, and finding nothing, I'll just keep an eye on this thread, and popcorn at the ready.

@burnout426 said in web based media has no sound in Opera:

@john-phd Did you try #4 at https://appuals.com/fix-google-chrome-sound-not-working/. That's what worked for @Jaabadaa.

Well, no not really. That forum is for Chrome, not Opera. However, upon looking (in Opera) choosing a default audio device is not an option that is available. I looked the other day, and I looked today, but no.... no such options can be set that I can find, just usual browser stuff.

I will point out having tried that option is that the sound is back on again. This is after an OS reinstall maybe a year ago, then an OS Upgrade 6 months ago as I decided I needed to install Win10 on my home computer. While this is a fix, it is a drastic one.

I anticipate that it will go out again but like I said in an earlier post, I'll keep this thread open out of curiosity.

I managed to respond to the wrong reply. Disregard

@john-phd said in web based media has no sound in Opera:

@sgunhouse said in web based media has no sound in Opera:

@scav23 In one of these threads I pointed out to people that Windows is capable of adjusting volume for each program separately, and that people need to check Volume Control and see if this is their problem.

-- I know right? It's as if the above (exhaustive) thread was not read. I think I keep track of this for a personal experiment to see what people come up with, and to see if it's ever resolved. It was once resolved, it is somehwere above, in 2011ish, where there was a code hack. It's mystifying how this even happens.

Kind of like my thread on Madagascar 3 in ROKU. It can be traced to like 2008 or 9. Still unresolved. Also unresolved is the Samsung S series light issue. The light is "in use" so the camera and well, nothing works. That goes back to 2006. My father in law was spot on that they don't write new code, they just recycled old bad code and never fix anything.