Posts made by interweb-explorer

Oh, I must've missed that when configuring a bunch of extensions.

As for Override Pages, it's a wonder Opera doesn't allow them. They're pretty useful.

It wouldn't hurt to rename it to "Duplicate tab"

Ah, that's good to know.

I wasn't sure though, because testing the button would've meant tempting fate.

Anyway, I updated my review accordingly.

It'd still be pretty convenient if there was a button that opened the data import page in an adjacent tab.

A search bar between "Open tabs" and the tab list would be pretty useful, providing it searched all open windows.

I'm surprised "Mute Tab" isn't already listed under "Configure shortcuts".

As of now, these are the task bar shortcuts I've discovered in Opera 35:

• Window List ~ Click
• Cycle Windows ~ Ctrl+Click
• New Tab ~ Shift+Click
• New Tab ~ Middle Click
• New Tab ~ Ctrl+Middle Click
• New Tab ~ Shift+Middle Click

My suggestion is to change the shortcuts around to the following...

• Window List ~ Click
• Cycle Windows ~ Middle Click
• New Tab ~ Ctrl+Click
• New Window ~ Ctrl+Middle Click
• New Private Tab ~ Shift+Click
• New Private Window ~ Shift+Middle Click

It'd be a drastic (and easy to remember) improvement over four of the same shortcut.

The best part is, those who use only regular or private browsing will only have to remember a single key 90% of the time.

Yeah, I got Shuffle Extension Toolbar working by replacing the entire Preferences file since editing the existing one wasn't working anymore.

Still, I'd rather not have to close and reopen 150+ tabs just to move an icon over a few spaces every time I download a new extension.

Well I'll be. V7 Bookmarks and History both work wonders.

And it looks like the devs hid some duplicate bookmark options on the Experiments page.

I also found the option to import HTML bookmarks tucked away in a corner as the last selection under "import bookmarks and settings".

Shuffle Extension Toolbar is working now, too, which finally solved Opera's icon arrangement problem.

It's just a shame all these things require some digging around to find, but at least Opera's finally usable.

The only thing still missing is a dialogue box to confirm closing multiple tabs. Or is there an extension for that now, too?

Let's be honest. The built-in Opera "History" viewer is downright cringe-worthy when it comes to finding "Older" entries based on specific dates and times.

In fact, in order to find pages you visited a few months back, you have to keep scrolling down through every page you've ever visited since then as the browser consumes more and more resources to constantly expand the list of pages shown.

Even a "view by page" function wouldn't help since you'd still have to guesstimate which pages what you're looking for is on.

In comparison, Better History is much better at efficiently organizing and displaying the browser's history.

That's why I'd like to suggest making Opera compatible with the "Better History" Chrome extension (link below), as well as replacing the all-consuming "Older" category of entries with sorting based on years and months (e.g. having January, February, March, etc as subcategories of the broader "2016" category).

That'd drastically improve Opera's history functionality and actually make it usable, because Opera's simplistic, unintuitive history manager (along with the inability to rearrange extension icons on Opera's toolbar, import/export bookmarks in a format compatible with both Chrome and Firefox or turn on a confirmation prompt that triggers before closing multiple tabs) is one of the glaring reasons Opera's a better "backup browser" than it is a reliable mainstay.

Better History: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/better-history/obciceimmggglbmelaidpjlmodcebijb?hl=en

I couldn't find a suggestion box topic for it, but I'd like to suggest the ability to rearrange extension icons on the address bar. The reasoning is outlined in the following post:

https://forums.opera.com/post/94223

I would've posted that here, but I mistook that topic for being in this forum rather than the other one. Oh well.

Chrome currently allows you to rearrange extension icons. It'd be nice if Opera finally offered the same functionality.

In fact, the placing of extensions which sometimes require an icon click (like LastPass, SimpleUndoRecents, Session Buddy, Flash Video Downloader, Video downloader professional, Click&Clean, uBlock Origin and HTTPS everywhere, just to name a few) can be pretty important.

Instead of always having to hunt through a jumbled mess of disorganized icons to find the one you're looking for, the ability to rearrange icons allows you to know where and how each extension can be accessed at all times.

Anyway, even if the trend in browsers development is less user customization rather than more, that doesn't mean locked toolbars are a useful feature (or even a good idea in the first place).

Just because devs thinks it's nifty from a user interface standpoint (at the time of a clean install), that doesn't mean it improves the actual user experience.

In reality, toolbars that lock users out of customization are nothing more than the ultimate golden turds of browser development, which is something that becomes a lot more noticeable the moment you start adding the very extensions you'll need to rearrange

The locked toolbar, which "looked pretty to start with", eventually turns into an ugly mish-mash of randomly placed buttons.

As it stands, the only way to currently re-organize a fubar'd Opera toolbar is to either waste time uninstalling, reinstalling and then reconfiguring ALL your extensions every time you install a new one, or to be clairvoyant enough to know which extensions you'll eventually end up using for the rest of the browser's lifetime.

Of course, the latter doesn't work for extensions that haven't even been developed yet. Such is the brilliant idiocy of completely barring users from even just rearranging the placement of icons. It's effectively a top down "F-U" from the people who develop browsers to those that actually use them.

I honestly thought (and hoped) the browser market started moving past this more than a decade ago.

The fact that even Chrome backtracked a little is evidence of how terrible the entire notion of "fixed icons" is.

I can't edit my post anymore, but I forgot to mention that a plugin/extension based bookmark manager which could alternate between thumbnails or "list view" would also be a godsend.

There's no understating how great it would be to just have the option of disabling a function which could bloat into hundreds or thousands of pages/folders in order to take the weight off the browser's shoulders.

Tabs Outliner features tab/window unloading, crash backups and the ability to backup all active/unloaded/crashed tabs/windows.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tabs-outliner/eggkanocgddhmamlbiijnphhppkpkmkl?hl=en

Session Buddy allows manual session saving, exporting and restoration.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/session-buddy/edacconmaakjimmfgnblocblbcdcpbko?hl=en

OneTab allows "bookmarking" of all open tabs onto the extension's local page. It automatically deletes dupes, separates saved pages into rename-able categories that state the number of pages saved each time, and allows moving/rearranging saved pages (but unfortunately not categories).

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/onetab/chphlpgkkbolifaimnlloiipkdnihall?hl=en

Those might not be built in functions like some people want, but they work well enough to compensate for Opera's shortcomings.

I actually use a combination of all three for session management, tab unloading/recovery and bookmarking (with dupe management) instead of the browser's built in functions because they all provide invaluable features that Opera itself lacks.

What's more, the extensions can be temporarily turned off as-needed to avoid crippling "load lag".

Anyway, as great as it'd be to have all those functions (including crash recovery) built into Opera, I can't help but worry that the potential bloat could slow down the browser if the devs didn't allow the session manager component to be disabled until/unless it's needed. The same goes for the bookmark manager, which remains an "always on" feature.

But given that they still haven't even coded an exit confirmation prompt to stop multiple tab closure, or a universally supported import/export function into the bookmarks manager, it's probably safe to say they wouldn't "think of everything" in regards to crash recovery and session management, and that their inclusion of such features could actually turn out to be worthless (or even a nuisance) if implemented thoughtlessly without regard to the "power user" experience.

Any bookmark manager worth its salt should let you know which folders your bookmarks are stored in, as good file managers do, just in case you find duplicates and want to delete the right ones.

Or maybe you bookmarked a bunch of pages accidentally, and want to find out where exactly they're located so you can delete them all in one fell swoop.

It should also allow exporting/importing for the sake of creating backups and transferring bookmarks between browsers.

If someone has to use (insert other browser) at the office and they decide to bookmark a few pages for later, it's an inconvenience if they can't import those pages into Opera on their home computer. Instead, they'd have to use a competing product due to Opera's lack of interoperability in a multi-browser market.

And then there's the issue of duplicates.

Automatically barring their creation is a problem if someone actually wants to have copies of the same bookmark in multiple folders, but having absolutely no function to manually find and delete individual (or groups of) duplicates can lead to excess clutter and hamper one's attempts to organize their saved favorites.

The usefulness of details, backups and dupe-nuking range from "nice to have" to "absolutely essential", even if some devs choose to ignore those things at the expense of users who actually use bookmarks.

"Close tab to the right" is right by "Close other tabs" and "Reopoen last closed tab." Misclicking it instead of the latter, and then having absolutely no recourse, is a terribly frustrating experience.

Likewise, "Close other tabs" is next to "Close tab to the right" and "Close tab", which means that a simple slip of the mouse could mean the difference between closing the intended tab(s) or trashing everything in the current window.

And then there's the problem with the close button (mentioned in the topic "Confirm exit option"), which has a similar effect to "Close other tabs" and also lacks any sort of confirmation.

The potential for lost pages/field inputs/work is enormous given how easy Opera makes it to do something that, if not intended, can cause quite a problem.

While the closure of individual tabs is harder to screw up and easily rectified with the "Reopen last closed tab" function, a confirmation prompt setting is the only safeguard against the accidental closure of multiple tabs (along with the erasure of everything entered into them).

Sure, one could still make the case that user should be more careful. However, people aren't perfect, mistakes will happen and a web browser should aid them in doing what they intended rather than punishing them for minor slip-ups.

It's a wonder this hasn't been implemented yet.

The "close" button is by the "open tabs", "minimize", "windowed" and "synchronization" buttons, as well as any nearby extension icons.

There's nothing more frustrating than misclicking it and losing an entire window full of tabs, all because Opera's settings don't include an opt-in prompt for confirming whether or not someone really intends to nuke their current window.