Another poll/request/wish to get tab grouping / stacking in Opera soon?

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THANKS

I just made a bug report (DNAWIZ-69904).

Shift and clicking the "+" ("Press to open new tab") should "duplicate" the current selected tab.

Ctrl and clicking the "+" ("Press to open new tab") should "duplicate" the current selected tab - but point to the root of the domain (without path)
(e..g. instead of "https://www.discogs.com/release/37247" => "https://www.discogs.com/")

The new opened tabs might be auto-positioned right beside the current selected tab and get active of course.

Alt and clicking the "+" ("Press to open new tab") could (also) "reopen last closed tab".

So I can use my one hand for keyboard and needn't remove the other hand from the mouse.

When I click on a Mixcloud link (which I receive per email) - Opera loads Mixcloud and before the mix starts to play Opera results in:

There is still enough memory - the problem is the process. Did not happen with Opera 66.

When opening a Markdown file (local double click or via http) it would be nice if Opera would display this file "nice" and not like as a simple .txt file.

Opera could offer various CSS styles (incl. plain txt of course) in preferences how to open .md files.

A right click context menu on the .md page to choose quickly another CSS style would be also good.

In March 2016, text/markdown was registered as RFC7763 at IETF.

https://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/syntax#link
and google around

@burnout426 Thanks a lot. Will try with Opera 67 when it works. Had to downgrade.

@aoirei Yes , Opera 12 tab stacking. All the time most used feature ever. Missing it so much. Just have 34 tabs open - from sw development, music, shares, social, lottery & betting .. would love to group / stack them within tab groups / tab stacking within one Opera window.

Thanks burnout426.

Done with bug report DNAWIZ-95025.

@aoirei said in Another chance for tab grouping / stacking (when Chrome is working on it):

@leocg That does not look as useful as Opera 12 tab stacking. Chrome's solution is better.

Exactly.

I just tried it in the office where Chrome is standard browser.

It's not the same as Opera 12 tab stacking.

I can not use this Chrome grouping and disabled it.

Still waiting for classic easy usable Opera 12 tab stacking.

Fixed at least in 68.0.3618.63.

@leocg, @burnout426

Again this morning with version 85.0.4341.60 (!).

All tabs of window 1 are gone. Only the 2-3 tabs of window 2 will be shown although for 100 % I closed the 2nd window first, opened a new tab on 1st window "to have an update" and closed it, turned off PC.

In the "Sessions" folder of the profile I've only these 4 files (why not more older sessions?):

Session_13293928681899796
Session_13293951582247730
Tabs_13293868496103388
Tabs_13293951540479050

and the first Session + Tab file are timestamped with 4-5 minutes past midnight (when I turned off the PC).

The others are created this morning. I've closed Opera and deleted them. Started Opera - again - only tabs from window 2.

I've made a HEX view on the first Session file and see the tabs which I want. But after start, Opera shows me only those from window 2 which I've closed 100 % before window 1. Why?

Here the first bytes of the Sessions file. Where you can see "https://win2day.at/" which was the first tab of my a workspace and now I miss it when I start Opera.

00000010h: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 69 05 00 00 01 ; ...........i....
00000020h: 00 00 00 09 00 09 B6 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 25 00 ; ......¶.......%.
00000030h: FE 20 00 00 00 B6 00 00 00 10 00 00 00 77 6F 72 ; þ ...¶.......wor
00000040h: 6B 73 70 61 63 65 73 5F 73 74 61 74 65 01 00 00 ; kspaces_state...
00000050h: 00 30 00 00 00 09 00 08 B6 00 00 00 56 00 00 00 ; .0......¶...V...
00000060h: 09 00 00 B6 00 00 00 B8 00 00 00 11 00 15 B8 00 ; ...¶...¸......¸.
00000070h: 00 00 00 00 00 00 B4 81 9E A2 46 00 00 00 85 0C ; ......´ž¢F...….
00000080h: 06 80 0C 00 00 B8 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 17 00 00 ; .€...¸..........
00000090h: 00 68 74 74 70 73 3A 2F 2F 77 77 77 2E 77 69 6E ; .https://www.win
000000a0h: 32 64 61 79 2E 61 74 2F 00 3E 00 00 00 4C 00 6F ; 2day.at/.>...L.o
000000b0h: 00 74 00 74 00 6F 00 20 00 2D 00 20 00 4F 00 6E ; .t.t.o. .-. .O.n
000000c0h: 00 6C 00 69 00 6E 00 65 00 20 00 43 00 61 00 73 ; .l.i.n.e. .C.a.s
000000d0h: 00 69 00 6E 00 6F 00 20 00 2D 00 20 00 53 00 70 ; .i.n.o. .-. .S.p
000000e0h: 00 6F 00 72 00 74 00 77 00 65 00 74 00 74 00 65 ; .o.r.t.w.e.t.t.e
000000f0h: 00 6E 00 20 00 2D 00 20 00 50 00 6F 00 6B 00 65 ; .n. .-. .P.o.k.e
00000100h: 00 72 00 20 00 75 00 6E 00 64 00 20 00 6D 00 65 ; .r. .u.n.d. .m.e
00000110h: 00 68 00 72 00 20 00 7C 00 20 00 77 00 69 00 6E ; .h.r. .|. .w.i.n
00000120h: 00 32 00 64 00 61 00 79 00 44 0B 00 00 40 0B 00 ; .2.d.a.y.D...@..
00000130h: 00 1E 00 00 00 38 0B 00 00 18 00 00 00 00 00 00 ; .....8..........

And here the first bytes of the Tabs file with a tab "https://www.discogs.com/" (also missing now):

00000000h: 53 4E 53 53 03 00 00 00 11 00 04 18 01 00 00 00 ; SNSS............
00000010h: 00 00 00 99 7C 46 FC 96 3A 2F 00 65 0B 01 60 0B ; ...™|Fü–:/.e..`.
00000020h: 00 00 18 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 94 00 00 00 68 74 ; ..........”...ht
00000030h: 74 70 73 3A 2F 2F 77 77 77 2E 64 69 73 63 6F 67 ; tps://www.discog
00000040h: 73 2E 63 6F 6D 2F 72 65 6C 65 61 73 65 2F 35 38 ; s.com/release/58
00000050h: 38 35 39 33 39 2D 31 32 2D 49 6E 63 68 2D 44 61 ; 85939-12-Inch-Da
00000060h: 6E 63 65 2D 38 30 73 2D 47 72 6F 6F 76 65 2F 68 ; nce-80s-Groove/h
00000070h: 69 73 74 6F 72 79 3F 75 74 6D 5F 63 61 6D 70 61 ; istory?utm_campa
00000080h: 69 67 6E 3D 72 65 6C 65 61 73 65 2D 75 70 64 61 ; ign=release-upda
00000090h: 74 65 26 75 74 6D 5F 73 6F 75 72 63 65 3D 72 65 ; te&utm_source=re
000000a0h: 6C 61 74 69 6F 6E 73 68 69 70 26 75 74 6D 5F 6D ; lationship&utm_m
000000b0h: 65 64 69 75 6D 3D 65 6D 61 69 6C 23 6C 61 74 65 ; edium=email#late
000000c0h: 73 74 2C 00 00 00 48 00 69 00 73 00 74 00 6F 00 ; st,...H.i.s.t.o.
000000d0h: 72 00 79 00 20 00 2D 00 20 00 56 00 61 00 72 00 ; r.y. .-. .V.a.r.
000000e0h: 69 00 6F 00 75 00 73 00 20 00 2D 00 20 00 31 00 ; i.o.u.s. .-. .1.
000000f0h: 32 00 20 00 49 00 6E 00 63 00 68 00 20 00 44 00 ; 2. .I.n.c.h. .D.
00000100h: 61 00 6E 00 63 00 65 00 20 00 38 00 30 00 73 00 ; a.n.c.e. .8.0.s.
00000110h: 20 00 47 00 72 00 6F 00 6F 00 76 00 65 00 BC 08 ;  .G.r.o.o.v.e.¼.
00000120h: 00 00 B8 08 00 00 1E 00 00 00 B0 08 00 00 18 00 ; ..¸.......°.....
00000130h: 00 00 00 00 00 00 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 10 00 ; ................

What can I do?

Are there any bytes I can edit in these 2 files and then Opera uses my important tabs of window 1? Are there descriptions of the file formats anywhere?

I really had some temporary tabs open "to-do" (to read). It takes hours to find them in the history and I don't want to do that (I have a family with 2 kids).

Until this problem is solved it is clear I have to use another browser as 2nd window. What should I do?

Does the "Session Buddy" extension work with multiple workspaces? I've never used extensions since I use Opera 6. I was happy as it was (and is).

UPDATE:
When I also open the new created Session and Tab files in HEX view, I can see all the HTTP entries of the tabs I'm missing. They are there or here - but Opera doesn't open them.

Thanks a lot,
BR

Again today this morning. It drives me nuts since I've 2 monitors.

I've closed the one open window on monitor 2. Then I watched a film on Netflix on monitor 1 (my main window) for an hour. Closed it. Turn on this morning. Opera tabs all gone. The session from monitor 2 with one tab opens.

Although I've tested it yesterday morning and it has worked. Close window on monitor 2, close on monitor 1. Start Opera again and last session of monitor 1 was there. But why not from yesterday to today?

@burnout426 I know I can save a workspace into a speed dial folder. But this I would have to do 6 times (workspaces) everytime I close Opera (beside delete the old ones)! There are always some tabs which are added (for to read) and deleted.

I've also looked into the sessions folder. There are only 2 sessions files (session_, tabs_) (one from yesterday and one today). And the one from yesterday is the time when I've closed Opera after watching the film on Netflix and went to bed. 2 session files are to less.

The best would be: Opera writes after every tab change (or after a few seconds when opening multiple tabs within a short time) the complete session (all open tabs in all workspaces) as text file: "workspace, URL" into a CSV file with time stamp in name. And this for e.g. 100 times (and checks from time to time if old files have to be deleted).

If an accident happens I can always find a session I want. A copy & paste of this CSV format (or multiple URL's only!) into the address field should open them in one go. (btw: This feature request I really miss since the first days of Opera! I often have a list of URL's which I want to open in multiple tabs in one step). These session + tab files are binary format, but found one open URL inside the session file from yesterday which I want.

Test: I've renamed the session+tab file from yesterday. Closed Opera. Deleted the current session+tab file, renamed the old files back. So only 2 files in folder (from yesterday before I went to bed). Started Opera. Opera opens again with session from monitor 2 with one tab. From where? I'm able to find URL's in this required session and tab file but it looks like Opera doesn't use it. But from where the info of monitor 2?

I've thought I use MS Edge as 2nd window but it's not possible because I open many links from email newsletters and the default browser opens of course.

Last night I was really careful and closed the 2nd window first and after that my window 1 (main) with my new started tabs in workspaces.

Just yet this morning, started Opera - and what happens: Opera starts with the one tab of window 2 and the new tabs from window 1 are gone again. How can this happen?

I accidentally closed an instance of Opera (84.0.4316.42) with multiple tabs in multiple workspaces on my monitor 1. There was another window open on the 2nd monitor with a Netflix tab.

Now when I start Opera only the last session from monitor 2 opens. All tabs in all workspaces are gone.

Is there a way I can retrieve my accidentally closed window with all the tabs in those multiple workspaces - it's my "main" session from monitor 1?

@diezi Thanks a Lot .. after the 3rd look I've found these 3 dots ... no idea that I've never seen or clicked on it. ... but your words "at upper left" helped to find! I always clicked on the 3 dots on the profile where is the settings menu and didn't find anything.

Thanks!

Someone had started a topic with this problem but locked.

I'm using Opera 73 (Windows 10 64-bit) official installations and What's App sidebar has never played any sound of Audio or Videos. I always have to switch to my iPhone.

All Audio drivers etc are installed correctly and I don't have problems with any websites or any other software.

Any idea?

Thanks

With latest 71.0.3770..2xx (or maybe 1-2 versions earlier?) - on website krone.at I run out of memory when Opera is running for a longer time. (Opera or krone.at in background).

Yes - Please more than 5 workspaces. Up to 8 or 10 would be enough!
Currently my last fifth workspaces is "Misc" which contains the missing 5-8 categories

@burnout426 said in Installer differences:

In short, the offline installer link at https://www.opera.com/download gives me the 32-bit offline installer instead of the 64-bit (when visiting the page with Chrome Stable 64-bit on Windows 10 64-bit).

Thanks @burnout426,

And via https://www.opera.com/download, "Download the offline package", I auto-get "Opera_68.0.3618.125_Setup.exe" (32-bit) although my user agent is

from current Opera:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/81.0.4044.138 Safari/537.36 OPR/68.0.3618.125

from current installed MS Edge:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/70.0.3538.102 Safari/537.36 Edge/18.18363

and the OS Win64 or x64 version should be detected - and the 64-bit installer "Opera_68.0.3618.125_Setup_x64.exe" should be auto-detected and downloaded.

Someone should change this on Opera website, or isn't it?

@burnout426 said in Installer differences:

They're for 64-bit versions of Win7 and newer. It's what you should use by default if you're going to use the offline installer and have 64-bit Windows.

But the normal download page https://www.opera.com/download - choose "Download the offline package" - auto-selects and downloads "Opera_68.0.3618.125_Setup.exe" and installs into the 64-bit directory "C:\Program Files" and not into the 32-bit directory "C:\Program Files (x86)"

So finally both are 64-bit versions or isn't?

If not and I should choose _x64.exe - why does the download page not auto-select this version (should be able to because of JavaScript info)?