Why has Opera 17 become Chorme/Firefox?

[cogitosum]

cogitosum last edited by

Originally posted by originalxform:

I recently installed Opera 17 and everything good about Opera is changed.

Why do you have to change undo from ctrl+z to the backwards shift+t? Undo is universally ctrl+z!

You've taken away the email client so I have to install another program and have even more icons on the Windows bar.

You've taken away bookmarks!? And I cant even import them back since the importer is grayed out!

You've even changed where in the right menu copy is, and I can no longer dubble click next to a tab to get a new tab..

A lot of things that I thought was great with Opera, gone! In one version update.. Why not quit and join the other browser companies, you are almost them anyway.

Sorry for all the negativity.

Hear hear to the above. I especially miss having a bookmark panel. Your speed dial is altogether too clutzy and a nuisance as a way of searching for a bookmark. Additionally, I've lost the ability to view EXIF information by clicking on an image. I can make Firefox or Chrome look "more like" Opera 12.xx so that's where I'll probably go. Sorry gents. Oh, and Opera no longer fills in name address etc.

[bomkallo]

bomkallo last edited by

Hello guys,

as it is my first post so i say hello.
Firstable I'd like to mention I won't create another topic for useless information that is that written now.
I simply wanted to inform that I won't be a fun of new Opera anymore When by an accident I've updated from 12 to 17 I was crushed by no dragonfly at first, then by useless, poor option manager. I don't know why everyone moan about bookmarks, etc, but from the sight of a developer I used to play with opera for its own personality. Sorry, but one Chrome is out there and I don't need another one for my tasks.
I barely believe that someone from its idiot company will realise that they wasted all the things in the name of unknown future.

I'd like to take place at those who are not new-engine-believers, because it's simply not an Opera as it used to be.
So if any of that crapyards read this, you might get my real sign that I won't use new version when the old one will be too old to keep pace.

Farewell:)

PS: Must be noted that it can't be foreseen how it's going to look in future, but still, there is chrome sign on it:)
PS2: The one answer for majority of questions here is that opera is no lonber using opera engine. It's the same when you've rewritten any program into new framework, loosing all its features by the name of new ones. The trick is someone didn't count that some people are deep in it so far, that they will need some time to change browser at least custimizable to achieve the same effect.

[funksoulbro]

funksoulbro last edited by

Thankfully, there's plenty of people signing up to say how much they love the new Opera, to offset all the posts like the one above.

Oh wait - no, there's not.

[Deleted User]

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Linus Torvalds: This "users are idiots, and are confused by functionality" mentality of Gnome is a disease. If you think your users are idiots, only idiots will use it.

Replace "Gnome" with "Chropera" and you 'll get the new VISION and direction of the devs...

[Deleted User]

Deleted User last edited by

Originally posted by funksoulbro:

Thankfully, there's plenty of people signing up to say how much they love the new Opera, to offset all the posts like the one above.

Oh wait - no, there's not.

What goes on here is relatively unimportant... little more than a drop in the bucket. In general, only those folks who have problems are likely to sign up in a forum to register their complaints. Thus we see a myriad of one-time posters who have had Opera for several years, never bothered to register a single post and now sign up to post their disapproval. That tells me there are far, far more Opera users who are content to either remain with an older version OR go with the new version. Ergo, your comment is relatively meaningless.

[Deleted User]

Deleted User last edited by

Originally posted by fg750:

Linus Torvalds: This "users are idiots, and are confused by functionality" mentality of Gnome is a disease. If you think your users are idiots, only idiots will use it.

Replace "Gnome" with "Chropera" and you 'll get the new VISION and direction of the devs...

There is no Chropera. Oh... I see...you're trying to be sarcastic. Ah... now I get it. :whistle:

[blackbird71]

blackbird71 last edited by

Originally posted by leushino:

... What goes on here is relatively unimportant... little more than a drop in the bucket. In general, only those folks who have problems are likely to sign up in a forum to register their complaints. Thus we see a myriad of one-time posters who have had Opera for several years, never bothered to register a single post and now sign up to post their disapproval. That tells me there are far, far more Opera users who are content to either remain with an older version OR go with the new version. Ergo, your comment is relatively meaningless.

Or... since most folks initially post here mainly to either get answers to an Opera problem/question or raise a complaint, a "myriad of one-time posters" complaining more likely may represent an initial wave of 'ordinary' users experiencing "sticker shock" at their first encounter with the new Opera. If there are only, say, 1-in-X,000 users who typically ever post here, any kind of clearly visible upsurge of first-posting-user complaints - particularly a "myriad" - represents a significant upturn in background user discontent with the newer Opera versions. I don't see how one can read it any other way, and certainly not as any positive sign that there are far, far "more contented Opera users" (than there were before).

Put another way, if there's a visible upsurge in negative feedback (regardless of its nature), ignore it at your own peril. I think most ordinary users who are unsatisfied won't bother to register here and complain... they'll just quietly move away.

[Deleted User]

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Or put yet another way - it's anybody's guess. The thing is... how do you choose to interpret it? I see things from a positive perspective.

[fuujuhi]

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In just one day, this new Chropera 17 just made me hate it:

- No longer separate proxy settings. We are forced to use same settings as IE.
- No longer can we tell Opera to accept expired / invalid certificates, without nagging warning at each opening.
- No PASSWORD STORAGE ENCRYPTION!!!

I SAID ***NO PASSWORD STORAGE ENCRYPTION*** WHO THE F*CK ALLOWED THIS?!?

- CANNOT EDIT THE DEFAULT SEARCH ENGINES.

Yes I want Google, but no, not google.nl, bloody thing;

Come on, one release and they just made me hate a browser I'm using since version 4!!!
I don't understand, this is beyond anything I can bear for now.

[Deleted User]

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Buck up. You can bear it. I know you can. Meanwhile, since it seems to be more than you can handle, go back to v.12.16 and keep you eye on the new browser. Don't uninstall it. Both can run side by side.

[stiab3]

stiab3 last edited by

Originally posted by 203:

Dumbing it down to cater for the lowest common denominator, is not progress. It is an approach that ultimately stifles and slows down development and it is not what got us where we are right now.

Alienating and turning your back on a generation of sophisticated Opera Browser users to satisfy an unknown element of basic internet users who may as well just use Chrome in the first place and probably will due to it's higher profile, will not be good for Opera in the long term

This is so true. Gone are the little tweaks we could make in the settings. Now we're left with very basic function.
It's like I've swapped an SLR for a point-and-shoot camera.

I wanted to delete cookies for a particular site. . . but I can't. it's all or nothing.

Opera isn't Opera anymore and the love affair is over. I'm moving back to Firefox.

[A Former User]

A Former User last edited by

Originally posted by stiab3:

I wanted to delete cookies for a particular site. . . but I can't. it's all or nothing.

Have you looked in Settings, Cookies, Manage Exceptions?

[stiab3]

stiab3 last edited by

That's not the correct function as it only lets me set how to deal with future cookies.

However, I did find the feature that lets me delete specific cookies. . . it's the button next to that one.

Now, if someone would tell me how to increase the amount of time before the browser declares a timeout, I'd be very grateful.

[A Former User]

A Former User last edited by

Originally posted by stiab3:

Now, if someone would tell me how to increase the amount of time before the browser declares a timeout, I'd be very grateful.

You might have more success if you follow the forum rules by starting your own thread with a descriptive title rather than asking questions in a random troll thread like this one.