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    Why has Opera 17 become Chorme/Firefox?

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    • funksoulbro
      funksoulbro last edited by

      Thankfully, there's plenty of people signing up to say how much they love the new Opera, to offset all the posts like the one above.

      Oh wait - no, there's not.

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      • Deleted User
        Deleted User last edited by

        Linus Torvalds: This "users are idiots, and are confused by functionality" mentality of Gnome is a disease. If you think your users are idiots, only idiots will use it.

        Replace "Gnome" with "Chropera" and you 'll get the new VISION and direction of the devs...

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        • Deleted User
          Deleted User last edited by

          Originally posted by funksoulbro:

          Thankfully, there's plenty of people signing up to say how much they love the new Opera, to offset all the posts like the one above.

          Oh wait - no, there's not.

          What goes on here is relatively unimportant... little more than a drop in the bucket. In general, only those folks who have problems are likely to sign up in a forum to register their complaints. Thus we see a myriad of one-time posters who have had Opera for several years, never bothered to register a single post and now sign up to post their disapproval. That tells me there are far, far more Opera users who are content to either remain with an older version OR go with the new version. Ergo, your comment is relatively meaningless.

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          • Deleted User
            Deleted User last edited by

            Originally posted by fg750:

            Linus Torvalds: This "users are idiots, and are confused by functionality" mentality of Gnome is a disease. If you think your users are idiots, only idiots will use it.

            Replace "Gnome" with "Chropera" and you 'll get the new VISION and direction of the devs...

            There is no Chropera. Oh... I see...you're trying to be sarcastic. Ah... now I get it. :whistle:

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            • blackbird71
              blackbird71 last edited by

              Originally posted by leushino:

              ... What goes on here is relatively unimportant... little more than a drop in the bucket. In general, only those folks who have problems are likely to sign up in a forum to register their complaints. Thus we see a myriad of one-time posters who have had Opera for several years, never bothered to register a single post and now sign up to post their disapproval. That tells me there are far, far more Opera users who are content to either remain with an older version OR go with the new version. Ergo, your comment is relatively meaningless.

              Or... since most folks initially post here mainly to either get answers to an Opera problem/question or raise a complaint, a "myriad of one-time posters" complaining more likely may represent an initial wave of 'ordinary' users experiencing "sticker shock" at their first encounter with the new Opera. If there are only, say, 1-in-X,000 users who typically ever post here, any kind of clearly visible upsurge of first-posting-user complaints - particularly a "myriad" - represents a significant upturn in background user discontent with the newer Opera versions. I don't see how one can read it any other way, and certainly not as any positive sign that there are far, far "more contented Opera users" (than there were before).

              Put another way, if there's a visible upsurge in negative feedback (regardless of its nature), ignore it at your own peril. I think most ordinary users who are unsatisfied won't bother to register here and complain... they'll just quietly move away.

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              • Deleted User
                Deleted User last edited by

                Or put yet another way - it's anybody's guess. The thing is... how do you choose to interpret it? I see things from a positive perspective.

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                • fuujuhi
                  fuujuhi last edited by

                  In just one day, this new Chropera 17 just made me hate it:

                  - No longer separate proxy settings. We are forced to use same settings as IE.
                  - No longer can we tell Opera to accept expired / invalid certificates, without nagging warning at each opening.
                  - No PASSWORD STORAGE ENCRYPTION!!!

                  I SAID ***NO PASSWORD STORAGE ENCRYPTION*** WHO THE F*CK ALLOWED THIS?!?

                  - CANNOT EDIT THE DEFAULT SEARCH ENGINES.

                  Yes I want Google, but no, not google.nl, bloody thing;

                  Come on, one release and they just made me hate a browser I'm using since version 4!!!
                  I don't understand, this is beyond anything I can bear for now.

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                  • Deleted User
                    Deleted User last edited by

                    Buck up. You can bear it. I know you can. Meanwhile, since it seems to be more than you can handle, go back to v.12.16 and keep you eye on the new browser. Don't uninstall it. Both can run side by side.

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                    • stiab3
                      stiab3 last edited by

                      Originally posted by 203:

                      Dumbing it down to cater for the lowest common denominator, is not progress. It is an approach that ultimately stifles and slows down development and it is not what got us where we are right now.

                      Alienating and turning your back on a generation of sophisticated Opera Browser users to satisfy an unknown element of basic internet users who may as well just use Chrome in the first place and probably will due to it's higher profile, will not be good for Opera in the long term

                      This is so true. Gone are the little tweaks we could make in the settings. Now we're left with very basic function.
                      It's like I've swapped an SLR for a point-and-shoot camera.

                      I wanted to delete cookies for a particular site. . . but I can't. it's all or nothing.

                      Opera isn't Opera anymore and the love affair is over. I'm moving back to Firefox.

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                      • A Former User
                        A Former User last edited by

                        Originally posted by stiab3:

                        I wanted to delete cookies for a particular site. . . but I can't. it's all or nothing.

                        Have you looked in Settings, Cookies, Manage Exceptions?

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                        • stiab3
                          stiab3 last edited by

                          That's not the correct function as it only lets me set how to deal with future cookies.

                          However, I did find the feature that lets me delete specific cookies. . . it's the button next to that one.

                          Now, if someone would tell me how to increase the amount of time before the browser declares a timeout, I'd be very grateful.

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                          • A Former User
                            A Former User last edited by

                            Originally posted by stiab3:

                            Now, if someone would tell me how to increase the amount of time before the browser declares a timeout, I'd be very grateful.

                            You might have more success if you follow the forum rules by starting your own thread with a descriptive title rather than asking questions in a random troll thread like this one.

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