What happened to Opera?
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jarzem last edited by
I have been a great fan of Opera for many years. But as the time flows and new versions of Opera softwere turn up the whole thing starts to loose many options that made it the best browser ever.
Can you tell me what happened and if I can turn back on options like:"Key" symbol, that allowed me to save many profiles and passwords of one website?
Option to arrange many windows or tabs next to each other with one click?
Opening privat window by righ-clicking the plus sign on tab menu.What happend to all those things that really used to make Opera the best browser. Now it's beginnieg to be just another one..
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
"Key" symbol, that allowed me to save many profiles and passwords of one website?
No "key" button but Opera has a password manager, so you can save your profiles and passwords for lots of pages.
Option to arrange many windows or tabs next to each other with one click?
No such option afaik.
Opening privat window by righ-clicking the plus sign on tab menu.
Nope.
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Deleted User last edited by
Many of the features are now continaed in extensions. Search the Google Chrome store as well as the Opera store to see what you need. I love the new Opera. It gets better every day. As for passwords, the Lastpass extension works beautifully.
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unitecharlie last edited by
huh? The only reason I use Opera is for the ability to stack tabs and save sessions. THese features made Opera a million kazillion miles better than any other browser. Now they're gone? Also, there's no ability to open a private tab anymore. How can I uninstall this incredible downgrade? And when I do, will all my saved sessions come back as they were?
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A Former User last edited by
You can open private windows (Ctrl+Shift+N), but not private tabs.
Installing the new Opera should not have removed your old Opera installation, which should still be there and work as before.
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cccc1627 last edited by
I have been auto updating my Opera browser for years. But somewhere between ver. 12 and ver. 26, the name of the Opera program was changes from "opera.exe" to "launcher.exe". I was unaware of this and continued to use the shortcut to the old program name.
My immediate reaction is that the user interface has been completely messed up. What made Opera superior to the other browsers is a number of exclusive features. It appears that Opera has tried to copy the other browsers and given up its unique features. This posting is an attempt to see if which, if any, of the old features are recoverable--before I abandon ship and join up with Firefox.
A. Is there a way to save a web page as "Single file web archive" (extension "mht")? No other browser had this handy feature.
B. Is there a way to restore the zoom slider in the bottom right of the Opera window, which was much better than a screen-blocking drop-down menu with fixed increments?
C. Is there a way to recover the "key" icon, which allowed Opera to get into virtually all password-protected sites with only one click? None of the other browsers could come close to Opera in this department. The other browsers would save passwords, but then many web sites would not accept the password from the browser. Opera was able to force password acceptance.
D. Is there a way to open an Internet file saved locally on the user's computer with out going to MS Windows Explorer and selecting the file from that program? (Which would only work if Opera is the default browser.) "Open" was in the "File" menu.
E. Is there a way to manage bookmarks? The help topic "Get started" mentions "the bookmark manager". But I have been unable to find any other mention or description of "how to". The old Opera required only TWO clicks to select a web site. The new Opera requires SIX. (That's for both "Bookmarks" in the main menu--I have never seen a menu with two identical options.) I think if I am able to re-arrange the bookmarks in the bookmark directory structure, I can reduce the number of clicks to a mere FOUR.
F. Has the "form fill" function been removed? It's not working and I can find no reference to it in "Search Help".
Any help with these six areas could keep me an enthusiastic Opera supporter.
PS: I wrote this off-line and see that some of the questions have been answered--in the negative.
PPS: Why do I have to re-register each time I participate in this forum? Rhetorical question.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
A. Is there a way to save a web page as "Single file web archive" (extension "mht")? No other browser had this handy feature.
Enable opera://flags/#save-page-as-mhtml
B. Is there a way to restore the zoom slider in the bottom right of the Opera window, which was much better than a screen-blocking drop-down menu with fixed increments?
Nope. Maybe using an extension but i don't know.
C. Is there a way to recover the "key" icon, which allowed Opera to get into virtually all password-protected sites with only one click?
Nope, but Opera Blink has a password manager.
D. Is there a way to open an Internet file saved locally on the user's computer with out going to MS Windows Explorer and selecting the file from that program? (Which would only work if Opera is the default browser.) "Open" was in the "File" menu.
WEll, you can try opening it from the addressbar.
E. Is there a way to manage bookmarks?
OMenu > Bookmarks (The second) or Ctrl + Shift + B to open the bookmark's manager.
Why do I have to re-register each time I participate in this forum?
You don't.
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A Former User last edited by admin
Why do I have to re-register each time I participate in this forum?
If you meant to log in anew, we've had issues and started a thread in the Forum feedback section - if it'll be of any help...
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unitecharlie last edited by
question for davehorley: how do I uninstall? I am running MacosX mountain lion (or the one before?). I can find the application Opera and delete that but I doubt that will bring me back to what I had before
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A Former User last edited by
question for davehorley: how do I uninstall? I am running MacosX mountain lion (or the one before?). I can find the application Opera and delete that but I doubt that will bring me back to what I had before
If you look in your Opera folder, do you have a file called "opera.exe" in there?
If so, that will be your old Opera, and double clicking on it should run your old opera, exactly as before.
There will probably also be a file called "loader.exe" which is the file to run the new Opera.
The "opera.exe" file for the new Opera should be in a subfolder of the Opera folder, whose name will be the Opera version.
I'm assuming that this is the same on Macs as it is on Windows, sorry if that is not the case, I've no experience of Macs I'm afraid!
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A Former User last edited by
To me,Opera Sold Out.
Old Opera was a niche browser with a terrible rendering engine and a low percentage of the overall browser market, often getting ignored when big important companies did browser testing of their websites. IMHO, for the sake of a few geeks...sorry...power users, they've had nothing to loose starting again. You're also aware Opera is free, right?
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stng last edited by
Old Opera was a niche browser with a terrible rendering engine and a low percentage of the overall browser market
Opera Presto has a terrible rendering engine? What sort of nonsense! In truth, Opera had the worst marketing/PR/monopoly abilities for not being ignored by "big important companiies".
Yes, the new Opera is just an ordinary chromium-based browser (definitely not for power users).
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jarzem last edited by
But why would anybody delete the "KEY" icon???? This was the best thing in the world if you had few profiles. That is just REETARDED move. It didn't hurt andybody. Who do I have to ask to put it back in? Any names and e-mail adresses? Please
And tabs arrangement, that was really cool too and usefull if you want to watch few things at once.Just let me know to whom am I supposed to write to let them know what people want. Maybe they have no idea..
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Deleted User last edited by
But why would anybody delete the "KEY" icon???? This was the best thing in the world if you had few profiles. That is just REETARDED move. It didn't hurt andybody. Who do I have to ask to put it back in? Any names and e-mail adresses? Please
And tabs arrangement, that was really cool too and usefull if you want to watch few things at once.
Just let me know to whom am I supposed to write to let them know what people want. Maybe they have no idea..Any chance you can recognize THIS fact... that when you write to these "people" (I suppose you mean the new Opera team) you represent YOURSELF and a few others here and NOT, as you term it, what PEOPLE want. The word people is too inclusive and you cannot pretend to speak for the vast majority of people. The fact is, you speak for yourself and undoubtedly a small hard-core group who simply cannot deal with the change Opera has undergone. I foe one do not want a return to Presto. It was a problematic browser that was ignored by many website builders and while it did have a small following of under 3%, it was largely considered irrelevant to the vast majority of users worldwide.
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blackbird71 last edited by adminBut why would anybody delete the "KEY" icon???? This was the best thing in the world if you had few profiles. That is just REETARDED move. It didn't hurt andybody. Who do I have to ask to put it back in? ...
And tabs arrangement, that was really cool too and usefull if you want to watch few things at once.
Just let me know to whom am I supposed to write to let them know what people want. ...To reiterate something that perhaps bears repeating here occasionally: in a total redesign to create a new browser built around an entirely different rendering engine than used in the past, everything is added essentially "from scratch". Nobody "deleted" the "key" icon... it simply was not added to the new-design browser (at least, not yet). Trashing and blaming developers for taking something out, when in reality, they've simply not included it in a new design greatly messes with reality. You may believe a feature "A" is critically important... but to a developer, it may not stand as more important than features "B" & "C", all of which take time and resources to add in a new design.
The place for suggestions is the forum by that name: https://forums.opera.com/category/15/suggestions-and-feature-requests
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toxiconym last edited by
But why would anybody delete the "KEY" icon???? This was the best thing in the world if you had few profiles. That is just REETARDED move. It didn't hurt andybody. Who do I have to ask to put it back in? Any names and e-mail adresses? Please
And tabs arrangement, that was really cool too and usefull if you want to watch few things at once.
Just let me know to whom am I supposed to write to let them know what people want. Maybe they have no idea..Any chance you can recognize THIS fact... that when you write to these "people" (I suppose you mean the new Opera team) you represent YOURSELF and a few others here and NOT, as you term it, what PEOPLE want. The word people is too inclusive and you cannot pretend to speak for the vast majority of people. The fact is, you speak for yourself and undoubtedly a small hard-core group who simply cannot deal with the change Opera has undergone. I foe one do not want a return to Presto. It was a problematic browser that was ignored by many website builders and while it did have a small following of under 3%, it was largely considered irrelevant to the vast majority of users worldwide.
No need to be rude...
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A Former User last edited by
Yes, the new Opera is just an ordinary chromium-based browser (definitely not for power users).
An 'ordinary chromium-based browser' that renders pages so much better than Presto.
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stng last edited by
An 'ordinary chromium-based browser' that renders pages so much better than Presto.
And? Just like any other chromium-based web-browser or an original Chrome, isn't?
