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    • sgunhouse
      sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

      This is the Windows forum - you would be better off asking Mac users ...

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      • A Former User
        A Former User last edited by

        question for davehorley: how do I uninstall? I am running MacosX mountain lion (or the one before?). I can find the application Opera and delete that but I doubt that will bring me back to what I had before

        If you look in your Opera folder, do you have a file called "opera.exe" in there?
        If so, that will be your old Opera, and double clicking on it should run your old opera, exactly as before.
        There will probably also be a file called "loader.exe" which is the file to run the new Opera.
        The "opera.exe" file for the new Opera should be in a subfolder of the Opera folder, whose name will be the Opera version.
        I'm assuming that this is the same on Macs as it is on Windows, sorry if that is not the case, I've no experience of Macs I'm afraid!
        🙂

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        • ladiesman69
          ladiesman69 last edited by

          To me,Opera Sold Out.

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          • A Former User
            A Former User last edited by

            To me,Opera Sold Out.

            Old Opera was a niche browser with a terrible rendering engine and a low percentage of the overall browser market, often getting ignored when big important companies did browser testing of their websites. IMHO, for the sake of a few geeks...sorry...power users, they've had nothing to loose starting again. You're also aware Opera is free, right?

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            • stng
              stng last edited by

              Old Opera was a niche browser with a terrible rendering engine and a low percentage of the overall browser market

              Opera Presto has a terrible rendering engine? What sort of nonsense! In truth, Opera had the worst marketing/PR/monopoly abilities for not being ignored by "big important companiies".

              Yes, the new Opera is just an ordinary chromium-based browser (definitely not for power users).

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              • jarzem
                jarzem last edited by

                But why would anybody delete the "KEY" icon???? This was the best thing in the world if you had few profiles. That is just REETARDED move. It didn't hurt andybody. Who do I have to ask to put it back in? Any names and e-mail adresses? Please
                And tabs arrangement, that was really cool too and usefull if you want to watch few things at once.

                Just let me know to whom am I supposed to write to let them know what people want. Maybe they have no idea..

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                • Deleted User
                  Deleted User last edited by

                  But why would anybody delete the "KEY" icon???? This was the best thing in the world if you had few profiles. That is just REETARDED move. It didn't hurt andybody. Who do I have to ask to put it back in? Any names and e-mail adresses? Please
                  And tabs arrangement, that was really cool too and usefull if you want to watch few things at once.
                  Just let me know to whom am I supposed to write to let them know what people want. Maybe they have no idea..

                  Any chance you can recognize THIS fact... that when you write to these "people" (I suppose you mean the new Opera team) you represent YOURSELF and a few others here and NOT, as you term it, what PEOPLE want. The word people is too inclusive and you cannot pretend to speak for the vast majority of people. The fact is, you speak for yourself and undoubtedly a small hard-core group who simply cannot deal with the change Opera has undergone. I foe one do not want a return to Presto. It was a problematic browser that was ignored by many website builders and while it did have a small following of under 3%, it was largely considered irrelevant to the vast majority of users worldwide.

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                  • blackbird71
                    blackbird71 last edited by admin

                    But why would anybody delete the "KEY" icon???? This was the best thing in the world if you had few profiles. That is just REETARDED move. It didn't hurt andybody. Who do I have to ask to put it back in? ...
                    And tabs arrangement, that was really cool too and usefull if you want to watch few things at once.
                    Just let me know to whom am I supposed to write to let them know what people want. ...

                    To reiterate something that perhaps bears repeating here occasionally: in a total redesign to create a new browser built around an entirely different rendering engine than used in the past, everything is added essentially "from scratch". Nobody "deleted" the "key" icon... it simply was not added to the new-design browser (at least, not yet). Trashing and blaming developers for taking something out, when in reality, they've simply not included it in a new design greatly messes with reality. You may believe a feature "A" is critically important... but to a developer, it may not stand as more important than features "B" & "C", all of which take time and resources to add in a new design.

                    The place for suggestions is the forum by that name: https://forums.opera.com/category/15/suggestions-and-feature-requests

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                    • toxiconym
                      toxiconym last edited by

                      But why would anybody delete the "KEY" icon???? This was the best thing in the world if you had few profiles. That is just REETARDED move. It didn't hurt andybody. Who do I have to ask to put it back in? Any names and e-mail adresses? Please
                      And tabs arrangement, that was really cool too and usefull if you want to watch few things at once.
                      Just let me know to whom am I supposed to write to let them know what people want. Maybe they have no idea..

                      Any chance you can recognize THIS fact... that when you write to these "people" (I suppose you mean the new Opera team) you represent YOURSELF and a few others here and NOT, as you term it, what PEOPLE want. The word people is too inclusive and you cannot pretend to speak for the vast majority of people. The fact is, you speak for yourself and undoubtedly a small hard-core group who simply cannot deal with the change Opera has undergone. I foe one do not want a return to Presto. It was a problematic browser that was ignored by many website builders and while it did have a small following of under 3%, it was largely considered irrelevant to the vast majority of users worldwide.

                      No need to be rude...

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                      • A Former User
                        A Former User last edited by

                        Yes, the new Opera is just an ordinary chromium-based browser (definitely not for power users).

                        An 'ordinary chromium-based browser' that renders pages so much better than Presto.

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                        • stng
                          stng last edited by

                          An 'ordinary chromium-based browser' that renders pages so much better than Presto.

                          And? Just like any other chromium-based web-browser or an original Chrome, isn't?

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                          • A Former User
                            A Former User last edited by

                            An 'ordinary chromium-based browser' that renders pages so much better than Presto.

                            And? Just like any other chromium-based web-browser or an original Chrome, isn't?

                            Your comments aren't making much sense. New Opera might be using the Chrome rendering engine which has got some people calling it an unoriginal browser but what I'm saying is that this newer browser does a much better job of page rendering than the old one ever did. In my view this is the most important part of a browser. If you can't view sites properly, no amount of features will compensate. I like new Opera for this very reason. Just my personal view of old and new Opera though!

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