Introducing Opera 102
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mathias87 last edited by@genegold Download the newest version manually here: https://get.geo.opera.com/pub/opera/desktop/
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Kiny-Ohara last edited by leocg
Great. After auto-updating itself to 102, now Opera blasts its stupid trumpet sound every time It Starts.
It was annoying enough when it did it on update, but not it does it on every start.
I assume something did not got converted from 101 to 102 fully and it thinks it's starting for the first time after update.
I know, I'm deleting the exe that produces the sound, but still ... Opera team, can you make this update works finally? Pretty please?
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winblood last edited by winblood
@kiny-ohara LMAO, yeah, that's terribly annoying. Also adding unnecessary delays to startup...
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xb70 last edited by
Okay, we are up to 102....40, having gone through 101....58, 102....16 (the offending one), 102....29, 102....33, and now 102....40. All but 16 have worked for me, albeit not without multiple installation attempts in one case. So I guess that this thread is not longer needed, or folks have moved on to another thread to report their latest Opera issues. My biggest complaint about Opera is having to click past essentially five disallowances of their cookie setting attempts, first just to see the downloads available, then after download to install, another four places to uncheck, and Opera simultaneously claims to be all about our privacy. Why do I have to disallow the default cookie setting, with five unchecks?
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xb70 last edited by leocg
Oops, 46 was okay, only requiring one reinstallation on one computer, but Avoid 51! Loaded without any personalization, even after logging in/syncing. Ugh. Uninstall and go back to 46, in my case. Such a pain.
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xb70 last edited by
I attempted to install 102.0.4880.51 and lost my extensions again, and going back to 46 or 29 didn't help., only all the way back to 101....58 got them back, despite the others being "synced."
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A Former User last edited by
@beorn1 said in Introducing Opera 102:
@xb70 I switched to Vivaldi browser and I am happy now. With some extensions suitable for my use cases. Do the same ..
Sorry Opera!Good luck with that! I've done so after Opera being so buggy. I had been an avid Vivaldi for four years before. But for heaven's sake, Vivaldi is even more buggy than Opera. I'm on Firefox now.
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Livorno last edited by
@celticcross I tried Vivaldi and found it difficult with the settings. Now, I use Avast Secure Browser. I am happy. I do hope Opera gets it together but I won't go back to them.
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A Former User last edited by
@livorno Well, it's a shame, that Opera is going south at the moment. I generally like the new approach with the with the new design, including tab islands and AI (but even that isn't enabled in a new install - really weird.
But the main point is, that I can't settle with any alternative easily. Firefox now is my choice, but it feels dated and I run into compatibility issues on websites.
Yes, Vivaldi is a clear overload, simply too much of it and therefore prone to having bugs either.
Chrome is a privacy threat, Edge is too pushy about everything Microsoft. Brave is too much crytpo even when disabling. I don't trust the three of them.
I wouldn't trust Avast either. They were convicted of stealing user data.
Safari is Apple-only. But I don't like their design either. There are compatibility issues as well.
DuckDuckGo browsers are too simple and without sync. And Arc isn't ready for Windows and there are no localized versions yet, AFAIK.
And forks that are maintained by only a handful or even only one person are a security threat.
So, I hope that Opera will be on track sometime and Firefox will survive as the only major browser with its own rendering engine. -
Livorno last edited by
@celticcross I've read that Firefox is heading for the last round-up. I used it years ago and liked it. You seem to know your browsers but what can we do? A few months ago Yahoo Finance changed their look and the users were outraged. It was a dreadful mess that was approved by the higher or is it lower-ups. Yahoo quickly went back to the former format. Yahoo listened to their viewers. Why does Opera still continue their stubborn refusal to appease their viewers? Any way I am pleased with Avast but I do long for the earlier days of browsing, simple and responsive.
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A Former User last edited by
@livorno I've made my decision. I'm going to Edge, which has most of the features that Opera has. As in Opera, you have to disable some annoying self-related features. But it's a smooth, fast and rather enjoyable experience.
If Opera had done things well with the One updates, I'd loved to stay, because in theory it's more pleasant than Edge. But the reality is, they've messed the whole thing up, maybe in an ungodly rush to come out with the new design with version 100.
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paul-durham last edited by
@livorno Mozilla has a unique mandate in the browser world which makes life a little difficult for them financially. However, I believe they will be around for a long time to come. This relates to Firefox as well as their Thunderbird mail client. Have a look at their full product list here: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/products/
PS. I am not a Firefox user but their browser is a solid product.
PPS. I wouldn't use anything from Avast (or AVG) because of their shady history. -
paul-durham last edited by
@celticcross I understand how you feel. For me its specifically Opera's stability that has worsened with the 100.x+ updates. The current stable release feels like a Beta release instead. I put the blame for this at quality control. Except for fixing the more serious bugs right now, Opera needs to take more time fixing the moderate & minor bugs and tweaks before moving on to more major changes.
I do use Chrome & Edge to a small degree (e.g. Edge when Microsoft admin sites won't work properly with other browsers), but I still enjoy Opera enough that I can find a way to live with the issues. For now. Session Buddy is probably the most important tool in ensuring I can recover from the numerous crashes.
Edge is a solid & fast browser, but with just a little too many features for me. I have heard Microsoft is set to remove some of the features to lessen the bloat.
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xb70 last edited by xb70
FWIW, I do update Firefox and Edge both manually, but Opera is still my default browser, if anyone cares. I do not use Vivaldi (mentioned by some here as well) on Windows nor Safari (on Windows) which I do not manually update, but I do have obviously on my iPads, speaking of other browsers. This is not any endorsement of any browser by me. The reason that Opera is my default browser, is that it is the one browser with which I can still use a particular extension, which will remain unnamed, which neither Firefox, nor Edge work with properly (nor Safari, FWIW).
PS I do not use Chrome anyplace, and Firefox is my default browser on Android, FWIW. -
beorn1 last edited by
@celticcross What means "more buggy than .."? Amount of issues? Amount of severe issues? ...? For me it could have thousands of "whatever issues", if it fits my needs and I can work with it, as i expect it should do. Ok, sometimes I have a crash, but one of the most exciting feature is, when I start Vivaldi again, all my workspaces and tabs are there - and as we all know, not every browser can manage this!!
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xb70 last edited by xb70
@livorno I had hoped that this would be a venue where folks reported their experiences with Opera, so that certain versions which people were having issues with, such as the migration issues noted above--loss of extensions, etc.--could be found, but that apparently is not happening, despite troubles. I have 102....51 working now, but am loath to try anything later, or perhaps there isn't anything later yet. I do not know. I did have to go all the way back to 101....58 to get my extensions back, when I first installed 102....51, and I couldn't even get 102....46 or 29 to work, after uninstalling 102....51, then 46. Ugh. Maybe there aren't enough people using Opera, or maybe there aren't enough having issues. Who knows?
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