General Opera One Feedback Topic
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weilan last edited by
When I first heard about Opera One coming with version 100, I was excited for the changes, but after I tried out the beta, I was left scared and concerned about my future use of Opera and was apprehensive of what's coming next.
I even submitted feedback, about 3-4 months ago about all the things that changed for the worse, I will list them below, and I hoped that in a few months time, these issues will be resolved, but they are not, and it seems like Opera is even worse now.
The issues are mostly stemming from UI changes.
Here is a side-by-side comparison on the same website loaded in Opera One and Brave:
As you can see, the margins on Opera's UI are bigger, which results in less of the webpage content to be visible compared to Brave when both browser UIs are only displaying two rows of roughly the same content - tab bar, back/forward, reload, address bar, etc.
- This is the number one issue with Opera One - the UI became enlarged for no reason whatsoever. The regular tabs in Opera 99 and prior, which were modeled after folder tabs are now replaced with these "tab islands" or whatever they are called. I think first Edge or Firefox started using them, then the other copied them and finally Opera copied them.
The problem with tab islands is they take up so much useless space that can be used to reduce the overall size of the browser chrome (or UI). They have these artistic shadows underneath the selected tab to imply a sense of depth, but this is largely useless, since if the selected tab was connected to the address bar, like it used to be before, it will still be the tab that stands out the most... like it used to be and the UI will be a few pixels thinner vertically.
Here is another image of Opera's UI, this time, the context menu:
- As you can see, this is problem two - the rounded corners of the browser context menu do not correspond to the highlighted item (in purple), which on its own does not have rounded corners, so if you zoom in and look closely, the purple highlight goes out of the rounded context menu by a few pixels.
I know this is not a huge issue, but it shows that whoever works on the UI is very unprofessional and sloppy with his/her work. I'm also using Windows 10, which still doesn't have rounded corners like Windows 11, but it only makes the problem more apparent - Opera One's UI doesn't translate well between different OS versions.
- Problem #3 is that Opera One changed the UI in such a way, that made the browser very difficult to use, in my case - pretty useless. Before Opera One, we were able to drag the mouse cursor to the topmost edge of the screen and select the tabs, the Opera menu and the minimize/maximize/close buttons, this relied on a muscle memory that has been built into people for decades of using a computer - where they can drag the mouse cursor on certain parts of the edge of the screen and click to perform an action without shifting their focus to that part of the screen, but now Opera One has removed this.
Not only this, but they have added a frame around the web page content, which also makes using the scrollbar for scrolling through the page harder as I described above. Before we were able to drag the cursor to the rightmost edge of the screen where the scrollbar is and then grab it, but now it's impossible, because it results in grabbing this newly added border instead and dragging results in resizing the whole window and dragging it around the screen.
Same happens if you try to open the Opera menu or close the browser when minimized - you will drag the cursor to the top left or right corner and click, but nothing will happen.
It's strange, because they have made this works for selecting tabs, but not for the other buttons. For me this is inconsistent UX design and very unprofessional and redundant. It's as if the people who designed this UI don't use Opera or are some 18 year old interns who were born with smartphones in hand and have no experience how to use a desktop so they aren't even realizing they are ruining Opera with Opera One.
- The next problem is the reduced customization options in Opera. Not being able to edit or create a new search engine is ridiculous, because Chrome, or Chromium to be precise, which Opera uses as a base allows this, Brave allows it, Vivaldi allows it, it's only Opera who is blocking this. I want to use Startpage as my default search engine and on other Chromium browsers I can use it, only on Opera I can't unless I go through some weird hoops, which I won't bother with, I will just use another Chromium browser instead. It's actually very simple.
Opera when it was using Presto was all about customization and serving the user, now the power dynamic has shifted completely where the browser is very limited and it feels like it's the user who is supposed to serve the browser or in other words - adapt to its crap factor instead of adapting it to his/her needs.
I remember, Opera 14 and probably all the way up until Opera 20, it was limited, compared to Presto Opera, but at least the UI was good, there was more freedom to customize it.
It's hard to find old images on the internet from the Opera 14-20 days and I won't bother trying to install one to prove my point, so here are some images of it I found just for people to see and be reminded how beautiful Opera used to look and how clean and compact the UI was:
And this was after they switched to Chromium or Blink. In fact the change was so good back then, that I immediately loved Opera and thought it will become the best browser. In fact, back then and still today, Opera for some reason is really fast at loading itself and loading web page content.
But since then Opera has become more worse and bloated. The UI became worse, there were more limitations imposed, a lot of the customization options were removed. Yet somehow despite becoming a bloated browser, Opera was still lightning fast. Before version 100, or Opera One, I was still considering using it as my main browser despite not being able to set Startpage as my default engine, but when Opera One released and now a few more versions followed and the problems with the horrible UI/UX are still present, I am 100% certain I can't use Opera anymore or recommend it to my friends or install it and set it up on their computers, because it's not good anymore.
I'm not even going to touch upon that AI crap that's also another useless bloat to the browser, just like the useless existence of Opera GX and the Opera Web3 alternatives, it looks like a desperate attempt from Opera to stay relevant, which reminds me of that Steve Buscemi picture where a tone-deaf old fart is trying to pass off as a teen and fails to realize how much of a failed attempt it was:
So these are my grievances with Opera One. I've been using Opera since around 2006-2007, less so before 2013 when it dropped Presto for WebKit/Blink, but I still have used it a lot and comparing what it used to be then to what it is now is night and day difference... for the worse.
That's it, whoever read this far, thanks for taking the time reading my rant, I certainly took my time and enjoyed talking about the things I like and dislike about Opera. I do wish the people calling the shots in Opera read this and hopefully some of them weren't born after the year 2001 so they can understand the problems with the current state of Opera One and consider doing something about it, even reverting to the version 99 UI will probably fix 90% of these problems, but somehow I doubt this will happen. The most likely scenario will be my thread will be locked or deleted, because this will be viewed as something bad and someone's feelings will get hurt from it. In the best case scenario, it will just be ignored and another unheard voice in the vast desert added to the list.
Have a good one!
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g6khan last edited by
+1 to everything @weilan says
Also another huge issue is, on Mac I can't work with Opera open. Tried my best to stay with Opera, even tried to install sub 100 version on windows but on Mac I don't know how to do it. My issue on Macbook is this, Opera takes A lot of memory, even without tabs. Now I am writing this from Brave browser. I don't think this is developers fault but a shitty product teams.
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krubhein last edited by
Heya! I've been struggling on how to use background music, sounds, and etc, i'd like some redirection on how to use them.
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Willy754 last edited by
I have installed the lastest Opera One(version: 105.0.4970.16).
And on its actionbar, it's got some buttons, I will never use, I think. I would prefer, if I can have some personal bookmarks there, namely 1) Bank button, 2) Google map, 3) Amazon and 4) Youtube. They are sort of required by government, also youtube because you must check their news - though it could be better channel, since one has to search in all their garbage to find relevant news like covid.
Feedback: I don't quite follow, what 'opera' is. Some jerk might explain it in comment hereafter, but it's the product that should tell it!
Yes, I can't tell either what 'firefox' or 'chrome' mean, but is this your explanation?? -
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ssi-marcelo last edited by
I've been using Opera for many, many years, but with each "update" it gets worse, heavier and heavier, consuming more memory and processing and less efficient. In my opinion, the development team works hard to make it worse than the previous version. previous. The "improvements" actually ruin the browser, the concern with efficiency, lightness, low consumption and usability is almost nil, for years the configuration page is one of the undeniable examples of this, because every time you access a configuration subframe as per example the sub-configuration of the sidebar and you click on return to continue configuring the other options it does not return to where you were, but to the top of the configuration page and does this in all sub-options causing the user an unnecessary waste of time and irritating.
Account synchronization in the browser is equally inefficient, as it does not recover the user's full settings, making the synchronization service a real joke, as its reason for existing "synchronize user data" is not fulfilled, as after losing an entire time configuring, creating an account to supposedly synchronize your configuration work, is ineffectively null, because right after synchronizing, what you disabled in the previous configuration is there, enabled and disrespecting your right not to use it, it is as if the developer was saying that he doesn't respect you, that what you as a user want doesn't matter to him, nor to the development team. Whether or not these statements of mine will be taken into account by the Opera team I don't know, what I do know is that there seems to be no one concerned with what the user needs and that there is no team or team that controls "Quality" of this browser, which I am no longer recommending to my clients for the same reasons above. -
A Former User last edited by
@ssi-marcelo I haven't noticed any slowdown on my side, actually. Opera is running smooth, when Firefox, e.g., makes my fans roar on my work laptop.
And it's very snappy on my MacBook Air, too. I don't think there's much difference to the pre-One time. -
ssi-marcelo last edited by
@thebluesheep
Dear colleague,
Memory consumption, instability and crashes are happening after synchronization and are not as relevant as design flaws in the settings and in the synchronization of browser data and settings itself, this is the biggest problem and which apparently never had the development attention, as it was very inefficient. -
A Former User last edited by
@ssi-marcelo If I understand you correctly, you bother with Opera's synchronization.
Well, I agree, at least partly. Sync with iOS would be great. But I speaking only for myself actually like how Opera is synced. I don't want the same Speed Dial on every single device, I rather appreciate how they are kept separate, thus having different speed dials on my work and my private laptops.
But maybe that's not, what you're talking about, I'm afraid. Nevertheless, there's so much browser choice nowadays that you should feel free to opt for another one which gives you more of what YOU want.
So, happy Christmas! -
flaviu2 last edited by
I am using version 106.0.4998.41, and I noticed this one uses less RAM than previous version. Keep your work to improve the performance and efficiently in future versions!
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teluobir last edited by leocg
I am so sorry, I had tried briefly Opera in the past on several occasions and was enthusiastic. I looked further into features proposed etc., and decided to move to Opera since I wasn't satisfied by either Chrome or Firefox. Three weekd after moving in, there has been so many issues, so many simple fixes that don't exist, that I have taken the decision to leave Opera and strongly recommend against it to anybody. Synch don't work. My history regularly disappears. Settings are ultra limited. Advertisments everywhere... And stuff like the "x" button to close tabs, that people have been asking for the option to move it from the left side to the right side for decades, and nobody has provided this feature. This is utterly deceiving and there are just so many problems that I found discussed at length for years in this help forum, to reach the conclusion that there is no solution… but also that no Opera team is attentive at all to these complaints and to user satisfaction in any sense, it seems. Now, I'm trying to leave and I find (agaaain) that basic features in other browsers, like exporting the browsing history, just do not exist here. Again, simple fixes that have not been done, IMHO unacceptable when dozens of people ask for the same thing over many years.
This is a traume, TBH. Best of luck for those of you who stay here. Using Opera for three weeks has even convinced me to mentally place it alongside "Internet Explorer" as the browsers from hell. THis is the exact opposite of the view I had of Opera before. I lose so many hours, so many data, so many nerves in 3 weeks… Unforgivable.Now that I am filling this, I realize there is also a bug on this very page. There are fields hidden at the bottom that I can not scroll down to access… W-O-W. It's be quicker to list Opera's features that work than listing those with bugs or problems.
Tried to submit this, and I got "error"… (what error, IDK, but I can't even post this (what will be the next surprise? Will opera explode when I uninstall it?))
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Hinokami98 last edited by
going to stop raging about the fact that 80% of the interface works about 50% of the time. don't have any real faith left in the development team anymore. cheers on your broken browser. maybe if you guys spent about 5 minutes more on actually working on your browser instead of censoring crriticism on your forum, maybe we'd have a working browser
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MattMPhoto last edited by
Hi All,
I want to say thank you in advance for any and all assistance that you're able to provide me. I'm on a M1 Max 16 inch MBP running the latest version of MacOS Sonoma and using Opera as my default browser. The first issue I'm having is that every time I open Opera it pops up wanting me to synchronize the bookmarks, passwords, etc even though I already am logged into the browser with my Opera account and I already have it enabled to synch everything that I need it to synch. Is there any way to keep this from popping up? It's really getting annoying to me. My second issue has to do with how the browser window opens. The browser opens with maybe an inch of the top of the browser window showing above the dock on the bottom of the screen. I have to click and drag it up in order to maximize the window to the point to where it is usable for me. Is there any way to fix this please?
MattMPhoto
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bertsflies last edited by
I'm going to stop using opera, because I'm losing control over basig features, and can't find anything in the help search,
For example I can't see the scroll bar any more, it's too narrow and I can't find out how to fix it - scroll bar does not appear in the general settings, and the help search provides no results.
I have to create a personal account and consent to my data being collected in order to ask a question or provide feedback.
The developers of Opera have disappeared behind an unnavigable mess.
It's too complicated, too many features, too hard to find out how to get back to a basic clean interface.
I started using Opera because I found it more simple and intuitive to use than other browsers. Not any more.
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Uberprutser last edited by
Please, Opera Browser, stop your campaign to try and become my default browser! It's not going to happen, and it's just very annoying! (just like that captcha I just had to complete)
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idgat last edited by
Can no longer put up with the intrusive, invasive, indiscrete and just downright annoying blaring trumpet fanfare just because Opera has done nothing more than should be expected, that is providing a program update.
And the sloppy programming practice of creating a new version folder for each update makes for an bloated untidy Program Files/Opera sub-folder structure.
Enough is enough.
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
@idgat said in General Opera One Feedback Topic:
And the sloppy programming practice of creating a new version folder for each update
Opera Developer has gotten rid of launcher.exe (if you do a fresh install) and has opera.exe in root of the install folder now so that the path to opera.exe (used for various things) never changes. That's a little improvement at least. Also, in the future, Opera might make it so there's always only one version folder to keep things tidy. Would definitely be nice.
