General Opera One Feedback Topic
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@forestworker90 Or maybe they haven't seen enough demand to justify reintroducing vertical tabs yet.
It may also be that the new UI is a step into allowing placing the tabs bar in the sides.
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FORESTWORKER90 last edited by@leocg demand is one thing and usage and request is another. And you are saying demand as if Opera has big userbase? I messaged and requested to Brendan Eich and his dev several times like I did to you and your team but who cared for users. Brave. I am not dev but your team has so is a simple thing to do.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@forestworker90 Nor Opera nor any company has to implement everything that is requested. If they don't think that the costs and efforts to add or change something will be worthwhile, they probably won't accept the request.
So, if they don't think that there's enough demand, that the feature won't be used by an amount of users that would worth the implementation efforts, they probably will not add that requested feature.
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FORESTWORKER90 last edited by
@leocg I dont want to argue but please tell me which features your team has added in last 5 years. It is all same, esp for desktop. I was also hoping for immersive reader TTS read aloud for webpages like edge has but looks like, it is not worth it. For dyslexic and autistic people, opera isnt meant to me.
https://www.windowscentral.com/how-use-immersive-reader-microsoft-edge-chromium
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@forestworker90 As you should know already, I don't work for Opera and, therefore, I don't have a team to add anything.
Now, talking about features that Opera have introduced recently, I can say Pinboards, messengers in sidebar, snapshot, workspaces, tabs search, force dark pages, built-in VPN, and so on. -
leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@forestworker90 Regarding having a feature to read aloud pages, I don't know how things are nowadays but it used to cost lots of money to be allowed to have such tool, due to the licenses that would have to be bought.
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FORESTWORKER90 last edited by leocg
Pinboards, - Could never found it useful or use it anyway. First you have find it and then use it. If you dont know it, then you dont this feature. For reading list, you can access it via right click on the tab and see on the sidebar. Easy, visible and useful and cross syncing.
messengers in sidebar, - I dont use facebook and those who use, will not use opera for facebook.
snapshot, - Chrome introduced this in flags via Desktop Screenshots Edit Mode, cant find anything new.
workspaces, - Just like Pinboards, it is useless, unreliable and doesnt work as promoted. If I vision WS as profiles, then it should be differentiate between users. If main profile or main crashes, then all workspaces crashes and all is lost. Plus WS, hangs the opera and device seriously. I used it once and lost my data.
tabs search, - Chrome has it for years near the top 3 right buttons. If it could safeguard tabs lost in crash or closed accidentally in a new section, then I can say it is a opera feature.
force dark pages, - chrome://flags/#enable-force-dark. This was introduced by chrome.
built-in VPN, - Good, was better but past 1 year, it is slower than other free vpns. Plus google shows recaptchas and sites know real location. So, it is more of proxy than a VPN. Plus do a google search within opera browser about opera VPN and you will see good news about it.
I am talking Opera specfics not the ones introduced or made by Google and chrome team like vertical tabs in brave is brave team's USP, vertical tabs in edge is Edge team's USP.
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FORESTWORKER90 last edited by
@leocg It doesnt and I will tell you smart way.
On windows desktop, if you use it go to time and lang under settings and then go speech and languages. You can download as many as voices and speeches you want to.
On android mobile, if you use it go to Speech Services by Google app or under accessibility, and you can same as said before. Download as many voices and languages as you can.
Now bring TTS feature within browser that detects voices from device. The best opera can do, is bring their own 1 male and 1 female voice that works under all circumstances.
Recently firefox introduced this TTS when you enable read mode for the webpage. But I dont use FF so, wouldnt go there. But was good and useful.
On a side note, please check aquile reader, koodo reader on windows and moon reader app, FB reader app, liberera book reader app as they all have deployed TTS function like edge did across platforms not just windows. And I use it very often and mostly offline to read webpages or anything when my eyes give up after work. My brother does use your app on mobile but finds it less useful as compared to edge.
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FORESTWORKER90 last edited by
Horribly designed. I am no dev but I expert at using and deciding and giving suggestions for improvements in UX and this literally bad. The buttons at bottom needs to be on top and sidebar could be introduced with this but then dev at opera one must be god.
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FORESTWORKER90 last edited by
Use opera browser to block ads. Use Opera adblocker and block ads.
If I have to see ads then what harm does chrome doing to me? Chrome isnt crashing but opera does every few mins.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@forestworker90 Your question was about features added by Opera in the last years, there were nothing about they being original ones.
The tool to enable/disable force dark pages in the UI and on a site basis was introduced by Opera.
Snapshot tool was implemented in Opera first
Opera has tabs search since a long time too.
Talking about vertical tabs, Opera was the first with them back in 2009.
And let's not forget that Opera spent more than twenty years being the first to introduce various of the features that are now common in browsers
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canadagoose4everreturns last edited by@forestworker90 Chrome track you and sell your information to third parties that develop profiles, thereby threatening your privacy. It may seem a little thing but those profiles in the hands of certain officials could end up harming your way of life in ways you don't foresee. Privacy (as well as security) is a funny thing: once it is lost, it cannot be restored.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@forestworker90 Some other recent original features:
Aria
Video pop-out
AI Tools in sidebar
AI Tools in highlighted text
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@forestworker90 I know about those OS features, but is Opera or any other company allowed to use them? For free?
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FORESTWORKER90 last edited by
@leocg said in General Opera One Feedback Topic:
Talking about vertical tabs, Opera was the first with them back in 2009.
Yes, I used them so I want them again. In 2009, I was in school so I couldnt find it useful as I didnt used net as much as of now. But now with so many tabs open like over 150, I needs vertical tabs. Removing them was a big no-no move.
For rest, can you link me to press releases or your company's own post so that I can check who was first and second?
I am not asking too much but simple things but your team is not giving any heed since 2018.
I really dont want to leave opera but currently it is not that same. It has become very rudimentary and not upgrading to current times.
I know you added AI but it doesnt work without account. I dont rely much on that not anybody will be using it that much (you team has usage stats so you can see) but basic what comes out of the box.
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FORESTWORKER90 last edited by
@leocg said in General Opera One Feedback Topic:
And let's not forget that Opera spent more than twenty years being the first to introduce various of the features that are now common in browsers
Tell someone who is new to opera. I am using it like from my Nokia devices. I still have a java file copy stored somewhere (need to find that out). Ah, memories.
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FORESTWORKER90 last edited by
@canadagoose4everreturns If I go by your words, then I should be living in forest and be a reclusive guy.
Anyways, Opera isnt clean and I would say you funds them and who owns and who controls them. You can check yourself from a simple search online to youtube to Wikipedia.
Plus both chrome and opera are based on same engine so it doesnt matter much since opera one way or the other and google one way or the other collects data and tells their chrome team the usage stats and other info.
I have never seen Opera recommended by privacy concerned people and I dont want them and I wont be leaving opera for being anti privacy. I just love opera and want it to grow but it is going its own way and doing what they feel like (like changing bookmark ordering and not providing any option for users who use old way). I cant even stop autoplay with sound and video for youtube in opera which i really wanted but.
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FORESTWORKER90 last edited by
Aria
Video pop-out
AI Tools in sidebar
AI Tools in highlighted text
Lucid ModeApart from video popup-out (which again was introduced by chrome by the name of picture-in-picture mode, see screenshots)
Lucid mode - I did used it. Was good but occasionally but not anymore. It needs serious improvements.
AI Stuff is gimmicky and started after chat gpt and bing purchase and integration scheme. Plus I cant be working with someone who is going to take away my job in upcoming years (and it has started somewhere now).
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FORESTWORKER90 last edited by
@leocg Yes, android is open source. Others are using it. Since I am not into that technical aspect, your team needs to look into this. But it is possible. Why dont you check those apps and see what I am saying?
