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Presto upgrade to Opera 25

  • Thank you.

    Opera 25 is a bit faster when doing the speed test you suggested:
    Using Oakla:

    With 12.16 download speed was 5.88 Mbps.
    With 25 it was 6.22 Mbps.

    I took the fastest results out of 5 tests of each.

    Maybe a good idea to watch HD streams and download large files in 25... 🙂

    (Although 12.17 is plenty fast enough for me as a simple home user. And I like the shorter time it takes to get to my default home page in that oldie but goodie.)

  • I use Opera 11 to watch movies.
    I'll tell you what? My broadband is ~20Mb/s, but it's up to the server where the videofile is if I will actually watch or just wait for buffering. Count the actual path to that pile, of course: approximately at the same time and of similar quality files may load drastically different.
    So what Opera actually does I don't know, but I doubt that matters about streams.

  • You are right. I just tested my Internet speed again. This time in 12.17 it was 5.81 and in the 25 it was 5.95.

    For some to me unknown reason each browser version connected to a different Oakla host. I guess that also influences it.

    I live 4 km from the exchange center -or whatever that is called in English- which means that my ISP cannot deliver the full 20 Mbps I would get if I lived closer to that center. There is no glass-fiber cable in my vicinity yet.

    It's fast enough for me. So no problem.

  • To repeat and revise a question I first asked several hours ago: is this present Opera 25 update to Presto Opera being selectively pushed via Presto Opera's auto-updater? There are two user comments in this forum that strongly indicate that interpretation:

    https://forums.opera.com/post/54173

    and

    https://forums.opera.com/post/53387

    (the latter dating from 8 October)
    Both comments indicate that Opera 25 auto-upgraded an Opera 12.xx installation, but at least to some extent, without asking user agreement.

    To that question, I now add a second question: did this auto-updating process selectively start prior to the 15 October annoucement appearing in this thread?

  • Today a popup asked if I wanted to update to the latest version of Opera. I said no. When I next turned on the computer - it was updated without my permission.

    Also now my Opera browser won't run in a sandbox, which now puts my computer at risk of malware if I continue to use Opera. When I click on Opera to run in the sandbox it won't pull up the usual start page and won't allow me to go to any websites. When I open it outside the sandbox, suddenly everything's fine.

    Please can anyone tell me how to run this new version in a sandbox? I have a new computer and I really don't want malware (which happens even with a good anti-virus program). And why on earth would Opera try to prevent us from using a sandbox???????

    I tried to restore to a previous version but it said it couldn't find a previous version (I don't really understand that since Opera only downloaded 25 today. So second question - does anyone know how to get the previous version in some other way?

    I'm not very savvy with computer things - and would very much appreciate any help anyone could give. Thanks.

  • I like that.
    However, I would add the ability to change the thumbnails in the photo (as in favorite). Because now my home page looks like - it's hard to fathom.
    Illegible.
    http://acid19.linuxpl.com/neotech/OPERA/zonk.PNG

  • Some internet with logo. And some of the thumbnails. As here.
    http://acid19.linuxpl.com/neotech/OPERA/ok.PNG
    or
    http://acid19.linuxpl.com/neotech/OPERA/ok2.PNG

    A simple example:
    http://acid19.linuxpl.com/neotech/OPERA/example.png

  • @lodestone How did you import them? None of mine show up at all.

  • Also the new speed-dial is crap, many websites logo do not appear and make it extremely hard to identify different sites on speed dial. Concentrate on fixing core features that people are screaming for instead of breaking things that people are happy with.

  • ok, this is an open source free program.... thank you. BUT how do I remove the new STUPID STUPID SPEED DIAL, thanks for messing up my very efficient system of folders etc.

    Good question someone asked before why not fixed problems people are complaining about eg the importing of from other browsers etc.

    WHO IN THE WORLD thought up this stupid SPEED DIAL, especially as there doesnt appear to be anyway to get rid of it.

    CAN I go back to an earlier version of OPERA, I AM NOT IMPRESSED WITH BEING FORCED TO HAVE SPEED DIAL, I am not a 3 year old that needs its nose wiped regularly and am comfortable with the way I set up my browser TO SUIT ME... not to suit OPERA.

    PLEASE advise is there anyway to contact OPERA apart from the bug section..... really peeved. and yes I AM SHOUTING MY FRUSTRATION.

    OPERA has had so many glitches of the past few months with crashes, flash crashes, extension crashes, that I am seriously thing of removing it, WHY FIX SOMETHING THAT IS NOT BROKE and WHY TAKE AWAY OUR CHOICE.

    NICE ONE..... and blow for freedom of choice

  • Originally posted by Blackbird:
    <blockquote>
    To repeat and revise a question I first asked several hours ago: is this present Opera 25 update to Presto Opera being selectively pushed via Presto Opera's auto-updater? There are two user comments in this forum that strongly indicate that interpretation:

    https://forums.opera.com/post/54173

    15195042

    and

    https://forums.opera.com/post/53387

    (the latter dating from 8 October) Both comments indicate that Opera 25 auto-upgraded an Opera 12.xx installation, but at least to some extent, without asking user agreement.

    To that question, I now add a second question: did this auto-updating process selectively start prior to the 15 October annoucement appearing in this thread?</blockquote>
    I'm a happy user of Opera 11 and an unhappy user of Windows XP.
    As Opera Presto and Opera Blink are indeed different browsers, I neither need to abandon MY Opera nor clutter my operating system with yet another browser - as I'm about to use it up as it is.
    Am I under threat to get forced to "update" to the new browser with the same name or not? My browser's set NOT to upgrade, but...

  • I have never used Opera 12 - I started in Opera at version 15, having previously used mainly Firefox - which I still use for some purposes.
    Here is what is wrong with all Opera 15+ (Chromium) versions

    1. Too few settings are available for changing things
    2. No Print Preview, which means you can't get a page to print how you want it - as a result I always access certain sites through Firefox because I have work-related things I need to print from them
    3. Alt-D does various things, doesn't always take you to the address bar so you can start typing a URL. I use my browsers fast and I don't want to have to think about where I am before I press Alt-D
    4. Opera Turbo comes on without warning, and as far as I know cannot be blocked from doing so; the result being that I find I can't access web pages, and then after a while, sometimes a long while, having tried Firefox, I suddenly think "I wonder if Turbo is on"
    5. In the very latest versions I keep getting a pull down Opera menu appearing in front of other applications after I have used Alt-Tab
    6. Lack of a Bugzilla style interactive community bug reporting system - as a result there is no way of knowing whether Opera is listening to your concerns

    I agree about the settings and I've started a thread about it as it isn't clear to me that this has been satisfactorily answered...
    https://forums.opera.com/topic/5728/advanced-options/1

  • not-a-dodo seriously, calm down. If you don't like Opera, use another browser. Also 'and blow for freedom of choice'??? Its a FREE browser ffs, not your civil right!

  • I like that Opera 25, but please bring us back Opera link !!! Lots of your users !!!

  • BUT how do I remove the new STUPID STUPID SPEED DIAL

    Take a look at it, in special at the bottom right.

  • "Today a popup asked if I wanted to update to the latest version of Opera. I said no. When I next turned on the computer - it was updated without my permission."

    Check Program Files/Opera and confirm whether Opera was actually upgraded. I had a similar experience and discovered it didn't actually upgrade Opera -- I'm still at Presto -- but did completely upend my Opera prefs ini file, totally changing the look and feel of Presto and making it unusable. Until I started digging deep into my system, I also thought I had somehow been upgraded. Solution was to replace the new prefs file with a recent backup copy of the old one.

    As I said in the other thread, to try to cram down an upgrade to people who've specifically opted out of upgrades and then destroy the utility of their existing Presto installation by replacing the prefs ini file is more than an ethical lapse.

  • As peterinscotland said

    1. Too few settings are available for changing things
    2. No Print Preview, which means you can't get a page to print how you want it

    These are still things that need adding, there used to be more setting control with early versions of Opera. My dad prints quite a bit from web pages and most, if not all don't fit the page fully. In 12.17 and before he could do a print preview and if it didn't fit he could change the settings to enlarge it to fit the page, or just make the text bigger as some printouts have too small text for him to read properly.

    Its good to see the bookmarks tab return, although I've got to see if i can import my old bookmarks from 12.17.

  • I nearly forgot, unless i've missed it can the auto update be turned off so i get notified when a new version is available and do it manually? If its not there it needs to be brought back!

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