Reporting and Moderation
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Deleted User last edited by
The simple truth is this: YOU, joshl, take things far too seriously. Your language was uncalled for and not appreciated by users as well as the moderators. I'm not sure why you think you can do whatever you like and not have to face consequences for your actions. You're very fortunate you were not banned - permanently. That being the case, there really is no justification is using the Opera forums, even the Lounge area, for discussions of how to configure other browsers. If you have FF installed and want to "tinker" with it, the best advice is to go over to the Mozilla forum and ask your questions there. Surely that is not too much trouble as you term it. A few clicks and you're at their forum and will undoubtedly receive far better advice than what you would get here. I really don't see your point.
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blackbird71 last edited by@joshl, I see a significant difference between a thread comparing aspects of another browser with Opera and a thread asking for details about setting up a competing non-Opera browser. The latter has no inherent connection to Opera (apart from them both being browsers). Using another instance of the dreaded "car analogy", I wouldn't believe it appropriate behavior to ask an Audi service shop for advice on tweaking a Ford engine... but it would be appropriate to discuss with them the pros and cons of the two car engine designs.
In any case, as far as I'm concerned, those who operate and mod the forums are free to set the rules of interpretation and nuance. When a commercial enterprise (of which Opera is one) houses forums, it's more than logical that it would not operate them for assistance with competitor products or to enhance their use. Consequently, it's more than logical that a forum mod would close a thread along such lines.
I consider myself a guest here (hopefully, a helpful guest at times), but I remain always aware that I'm on Opera's turf while I'm here... in their house, so to speak. I'll call them out when I think they're wrong (and I have), but I try to do it politely and in a reasoned way... and if I drift into impoliteness (and I sometimes have), I try to accept correction when it's given and justified (thank you, @leushino).
As you've noted, we're a community... but communities have rules of behavior. One of those rules is not to attack one another with rudeness or impoliteness. I didn't even notice your FF thread in the Lounge until you then came into this forum and erupted with name-calling toward a mod, in a thread I happen to track. I then went to your FF thread, read it, and happened to agree with the mod in his actions, for the reasons I've noted earlier. I recognize and respect that you have a different viewpoint about the nature of your topic and where you wanted to raise your questions - and why. But personally attacking the mod with rudeness for his considered actions is not an acceptable "community" response... in that thread or this. And it was for that reason I expressed my earlier opinion here. My hope is that all of us in this community can learn how to differ with each other (and, indeed, at times with the mods) without resorting to personal attacks and name-calling. There's far too much of that going on already among first-time posters, but we who have been here a while and consider ourselves part of "community" ought to know better.
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Deleted User last edited by
and if I drift into impoliteness (and I sometimes have), I try to accept correction when it's given and justified (thank you, @leushino).
The truth is, bb, I was out of line the day I spouted off and I'd like to take this opportunity to apologize. I can explain my behavior but I can't justify it.
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blackbird71 last edited by
and if I drift into impoliteness (and I sometimes have), I try to accept correction when it's given and justified (thank you, @leushino).
The truth is, bb, I was out of line the day I spouted off and I'd like to take this opportunity to apologize. ...
Well, so was I... I was out of line in my harshness and criticality toward you - for that I apologize as well. The thing I hope I learned from that exchange was that I really need to much more thoroughly think through how I'm coming across before I post... and not to post at all while I feel frustrated about things (here or elsewhere). That's something I've adopted since then, and I think the result has been more constructiveness and less harshness... or at least I hope so. And for that, I genuinely thank you.
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Deleted User last edited by
I really need to much more thoroughly think through how I'm coming across before I post... and not to post at all while I feel frustrated about things (here or elsewhere). That's something I've adopted since then, and I think the result has been more constructiveness and less harshness... or at least I hope so. And for that, I genuinely thank you.
I like your words above, blackbird and I'll try to put them to work in my posting. I grew up playing hockey back in Canada and still seem to have that mindset, if you will - being provoked I don't think but drop the gloves and get ready for battle. For many reasons that's not a good course of action. Anyway... I guess we're mutually thankful for that exchange so that's a good thing.
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A Former User last edited by
I wouldn't believe it appropriate behavior to ask an Audi service shop for advice on tweaking a Ford engine...
Black, it was the Lounge.
Think of it like I "asked for advice" to another customer being in their toilet room.
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christoph142 last edited by
I wouldn't believe it appropriate behavior to ask an Audi service shop for advice on tweaking a Ford engine...
Black, it was the Lounge.
Think of it like I "asked for advice" to another customer being in their toilet room.
I can't approve of you not thinking straight.Why do you keep fighting? We agree to disagree. This has been discussed now and we mods (and others) have told you that my decision was justified. So drop this now, please.
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blackbird71 last edited by
No.
The wrong reason stays the wrong reason.Here in the States, we have an expression: "Never argue with the referee!" When his decision has been made, and especially after he's explained it despite your appeal, it's been made... it's over... you can't change it. Going beyond that will only get one ejected from the game. In other words, relax and get on with other things.
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Deleted User last edited by
Since the penalty box didn't appear to do the trick, there's always a game suspension. :whistle: I don't think you want to go down that path so as christop and bb have encouraged you: drop it.
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A Former User last edited by
Black, I have my opinion, and it hasn't changed.
I'm not gonna overthrow "the government" - then what? I'm staying on my point - that's it. -
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christoph142 last edited by
My posts are held for moderation. Hmm.
Yes, some URLs trigger spam filter automatically. I approved your post.
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Deleted User last edited by
In any case my new post being moderated doesn't overwrite the old one just in time, '1 new' is mentioned but the previous username is still there. 'Some' urls could be all, links from this forum are included.
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blackbird71 last edited by
Without going into too much detail lest spammy eyes be watching, I've found that keeping most forms of punctuation to a basic minimum is very important. The longer the post, and the more that certain characters accumulate in it, the greater the likelihood it will be trapped as spam. There are certain characters that are more... uhm, sensitive in this regard.
A couple of URL links seem not to cause trapping problems.
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blackbird71 last edited by admin
Frankly, this is starting to become a nuisance of late. I just attempted to post in the https://forums.opera.com/topic/4766/google-search-problem-with-opera-12-17/24 topic, and got trapped (yet again) for moderation. My post contained one at symbol before a username, an Opera version number, four comma's, two hyphens, two apostrophes, and one exclamation point scattered across five ordinary sentences ending with periods. This is the third or fourth such moderation trapping in the last week or so. Maybe the spam filter has been set too restrictively?
Another problem is that when released, such posts often don't appear in the thread until multiple hours later, by which time their relevancy can appear stale.
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linuxmint7 last edited by
Hi blackbird, Just seen your post and have approved your other post in the other thread.
It doesn't look spammy to me, but then again, as you say, maybe the filters are set a little too restrictive.
Apparently when some URLs are posted.
