I eventually decided to update to Opera 24

  • I've been using Opera for several years, and I have always loved the way it let me customize fully, yet with ease, almost everything about internet navigation.
    Now, I decided I had enough of Opera 12.17 (too many pages did not load correctly, problems with YouTube and so on) and updated to Opera 24, with a lot of faith in the new, awesome product I was going to download.
    And I can't find words capable of expressing how completely disappointed I was; in 2 years since last release, it seems like not a single step forward has been done. And I really hope someone proves me wrong, that I simply misunderstood the browser or downloaded a fake version.
    Of the many things that bug me, though, a minor one is really irritating me for some reasons: the tabs are not semitrasparent (the ones in Opera 12 were); does someone know a way to change this...? I don't know, skin editing, an extention, whatever allows me to still have a little shred of the old Opera feeling. Thanks for the attention for a nostalgic user.

  • I am interested to know what are examples of sites that don't display properly. I am using 12.17 and have no such problems enough to make me wanna use another browser. And youtube is good, even with extendtube extension

    Could you please post examples so I can take a look to see what are the problems with 12.x that people are complaining about rendering

  • Half of time Facebook doesn't load; I have to refresh the page to make it actually work.
    There is the website of an italian transmission, it's called "Servizio Pubblico"; the videos they upload don't show. I don't know whether or not did they change something, because, after several failed attempts of watching vidoes, I eventually gave up.
    Youtube has rendering problems: when I skip to a different moment of the video, the player has to reload the entire video before playing what I requested, even when I skip to an already loaded point.
    4chan sometimes do not load correctly, same goes for Facebook: there is a white layout and the various links appear in a vertical column, I can't describe it properly without a screen, though.
    This is what I can think as for now, but I am sure that there are some more.

  • @rododo

    I don't know about that semi-transparent issue. It's kind of a nothing for me. But in a tremendous number of areas, including the Speed Dial, Discover, Stash, greater speed, greater excessibility of sites, ability to use a tremendous number of extensions you never could before, Opera 24 is infinitely better than Opera 12.17. It's a delight. Can't even begin to go through it all, but it's night and day. No way would I ever go back. It may take a little time to get used to the changes. But go for it. You'll be happy you did.

  • There is no turning back... period. Opera 24 is a better browser all--round. In my opinion it's about adaptability and opening one's mind.

  • Quick question, does new opera support single key shortcuts?

  • Quick question, does new opera support single key shortcuts?

    Yes, but they are not configurable.

  • I have been running 12 and 20 ... 24 in parallel for around six or nine months now, and am considering dumping 12. However I would like help to see if any of what I see as shortcomings in 24 are in fact available and I just have not figured out how.

    1. The old form filler in was a major plus for 12. Good example was logging in to this site. Under 24 I have to type in my eddress, in 12, one letter and one click and its done. This feature came in handy for me multiple times per browsing day - the new 'credit card fill in' is practically never of use to me. Why not both? My only problem with the old scheme was that it did not have as many 'user choice' boxes as I could have taken advantage of.
    2. I can find no way of requesting a clone of the current window as a new window. (As distinct from a 'new window' - which starts from scratch.)
    3. Agree with some other comments that a 'delete all private date' option is nice. No problem with the new 'private window' but if you don't do that to start with there is no way of deleting this stuff retrospectively.
    4. Less critically, the bookmarks bar takes up vertical screen space - which in these days of wide but short monitors is annoying.

    Does anyone have any suggestions on recovering these 'lost' features. Thanks if you do.

  • And I forgot to add -

    1. In 12 you could make your choice of search engine (DuckDuckGo in my case) the default, and delete engines you had no use for. In 24 - nada?
  • @petermat

    Hide the Opera bookmarks bar, and use a bookmarks manager extension -- I like Chrookmarks for Chrome -- to show the bookmarks (in a vertical display) when you need them. (There are other bookmarks manager extension, that others use, and which may work fine to, for the purpose I have suggested). There's also an Opera extension that's good called "Add Bookmark.". When you click on it to add a bookmark, you can see your bookmark tree and place it where you want. I love being able to hide the bookmarks bar, saving browser real estate, and to be able to show it when I want. You refered, by the way, to the bookmarks bar taking up the vertical screen. You meant, the horizontal screen.

    Not sure what you mean about logging in to Opera. Opera 24 remembers if you have logged in, and it should be one click and you're in again. The password manager seems to work ok.

  • And I forgot to add -

    1. In 12 you could make your choice of search engine (DuckDuckGo in my case) the default, and delete engines you had no use for. In 24 - nada?

    Afaik on Opera 12.1x used to revert to one of the pre-installed ones.

    1. The old form filler in was a major plus for 12. Good example was logging in to this site. Under 24 I have to type in my eddress, in 12, one letter and one click and its done.

    Opera Blink (Opera 15+) remembers what you type on form fields.

    1. Less critically, the bookmarks bar takes up vertical screen space - which in these days of wide but short monitors is annoying.

    You can enable the bookmarks manager on opera:flags or just wait for Opera 25 to land on Stable stream.

  • ... You refered, by the way, to the bookmarks bar taking up the vertical screen. You meant, the horizontal screen.

    It's a terminology thing. Horizontal bars reduce the vertical dimension available for displaying a web page's content in a browser. In popular jargon, that has morphed into the bars "taking up vertical space", which has then evolved into "taking up vertical screen". Referring to either vertical or horizontal screen is fraught with potential misunderstandings. Far better for folks to describe it as reducing vertical dimensions... but that's extremely unlikely to ever become widespread usage. 😉

  • YAAAAWN! Do we really need to do this 'I hate new Opera' over and over again? As leushino says the new Opera is here to stay so either live with it or move on to another browser.

  • Maybe this is the Answer, what Opera needed to be http://www.slimjet.com/en/

  • Love Opera 24. Hope they keep up the super work.

  • I have no objections to anything that is new and wonderful in O24, I just object to losing all that was really useful in the previous versions. :knight:

  • "YAAAAWN! Do we really need to do this 'I hate new Opera' over and over again? As leushino says the new Opera is here to stay so either live with it or move on to another browser."

    Are you kidding? It is not a matter of hatred, the matter is that I (and it seems that I am not alone) liked Opera 12.17 and I don't like Opera 24. As for now, Opera seems to be just the elder brother of Chrome. But if I wanted a Chrome-styled browser, I'd download Chrome, not Opera!

    Now, I don't want to offend anyone. Chrome 24 is more reliable, and I can't deny that; I don't have to reload the pages several times before actually see what I am browsing for, and the notifications on Google+ are displayed properly, as example.
    Yet, I can't help but to wonder whether or not a better browsing experience could have been achieved without losing pretty much everything of the old Opera, this is just what I am asking. And, if you think all of those who think as me to be haters, feel free not to comment, I won't be offended by your silence.

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