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    Can't Mark Emails as Unread - Need Help

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    • Deleted User
      Deleted User last edited by

      I got Opera 12.16. I can't mark emails as unread. How do I fix this?

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      • leocg
        leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

        What happens when you try to mark them as unread?

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        • Deleted User
          Deleted User last edited by

          Hi leocg. I cant mark them unread at all. Whenever I right click on a mail that option is greyed out.

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          • leocg
            leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

            And what about "Mark as Read"? Is that option available?

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            • sgunhouse
              sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

              If you're in the Unread access point, they are marked as unread.

              There are 3 possible states for a message to be listed in. If the list item is boldface and blue, then the item has never been seen. If the list item is bold and black, then you have seen it but it is still officially unread (you didn't mark it as read). And if the list item is normal weight and black, then it has been marked as read (whether or not you've actually seen it) ... but of course read items don't show under Unread.

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              • Deleted User
                Deleted User last edited by

                Hi burnout. I'm confused. When I go to my Inbox under my account (with my email address heading on top as opposed to 'All Messages'), I click on an email to 'Mark as Read' to see if I can then right click it back to 'Mark as Unread'. But when that happens, the amil disappears from the list. I dont get it! Why does it do this? Where does it go?

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                • linuxmint7
                  linuxmint7 last edited by

                  You'll find it in the 'Received' filter, because it no longer fits the criteria to be listed in the 'Unread' filter, because it is no longer unread.

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                  • Deleted User
                    Deleted User last edited by

                    linuxmint7, thats not true. The mail doens't transfer over to 'Received'.

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                    • leocg
                      leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                      Hi burnout. I'm confused. When I go to my Inbox under my account (with my email address heading on top as opposed to 'All Messages'), I click on an email to 'Mark as Read' to see if I can then right click it back to 'Mark as Unread'. But when that happens, the amil disappears from the list. I dont get it! Why does it do this? Where does it go?

                      Do you have "show read" checked for your Inbox?

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                      • burnout426
                        burnout426 Volunteer last edited by

                        Do you have "show read" checked for your Inbox?

                        That's what I'd look for too. It's under the "settings for this view" button on the message list toolbar for each view.

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                        • Deleted User
                          Deleted User last edited by

                          Ahh yes.. I did check "show read" and I see the mail copied over to 'Received'. But the problem is that once I mark mail as unread, it doesn't change back to blue and bold. Thats exactly what I want to happen. How do I change it back to blue and bold?

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                          • leocg
                            leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                            But the problem is that once I mark mail as unread, it doesn't change back to blue and bold.

                            Blue and bold means that the message hasn't even been seen. Once you have seen a message you can't unsee it.

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                            • Deleted User
                              Deleted User last edited by

                              Are you serious? Theres got to be a way to change it back to blue. Burnout, care to chime in with your expertise please? Maybe the solution is in tweaking a file?

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                              • leocg
                                leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                Are you serious?

                                Yes.

                                Theres got to be a way to change it back to blue.

                                How could you "unsee" something? 🙂

                                Maybe the solution is in tweaking a file?

                                Don't know if it's possible to change the colors so unread uses blue.

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                                • burnout426
                                  burnout426 Volunteer last edited by

                                  Are you serious?

                                  Yes.

                                  Theres got to be a way to change it back to blue.

                                  There's no way to clear the "is_seen" status of a message in Opera. You can change that bit by modifying the x-opera-status header in the mbs file for the message that's in the mail/store folder. But, that header is just kind of informative. The real status flags that Opera uses for a message are in omailbase.dat. If you can reverse-engineer that file and write a program to do what you want, you might accomplish the task.

                                  You can try:

                                  • Making a copy of the mbs file.

                                  • Modifying the X-Opera-Status header in the copy so that the is_seen flag isn't set.

                                  • Shift + DEL-ing the message in Opera to permanently delete it (and its mbs file).

                                  • Import the copy back into the account (would have to be a POP account) using the "Menu -> settings -> import and export -> import mail -> import generic mbox" wizard.

                                  But, that might not even work either as I don't know/remember if the importer will take the X-Opera-Status header into account.

                                  How could you "unsee" something?

                                  Exactly this. No joke.

                                  Don't know if it's possible to change the colors so unread uses blue.

                                  You might be able to mess with the colors in the "Colors" section in opera:config to tweak the bold black to make it blue. You might have to use the "system color scheme" color scheme option in Opera with the "Opera Standard" skin and modify the appearance colors in Windows. But, even if you do all that, it'd still just be unread and not also unseen.

                                  In short, there's practically no way to do what you want.

                                  But, for IMAP, I guess you could unsubscribe from the IMAP folder and resubscribe. Or, save the message, delete it from the server, import it into a POP account and drag it to the Inbox IMAP folder via IMAP and mark it as unread (with a different client or instance of Opera). Or, for POP, you could do the same and when the POP account sees the new message, it'll be Unread and Unseen.

                                  With all that said though, Opera uses 3 states as sgunhouse said. Opera isn't really meant to work with "mark as read" set to anything but "manually". You get the message, open it and then after you've really read it, you can mark it as read to tell Opera if it's really read. If you use "mark as read after 1 second" for example, just opening the message will mark it as read even if you didn't read it. In other words, just selecting items in the message list when the preview pane is turned on will mark messages as read on ya.

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                                  • Deleted User
                                    Deleted User last edited by

                                    Hi, burnout. Can you please tell me where in opera:config I should be looking?

                                    Also, I saw something in opers:config called, 'color scheme mode'. Do you know what this does by any chance?

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                                    • linuxmint7
                                      linuxmint7 last edited by

                                      Relentless and seemingly quite thankless, Mmmmmmmm!!!. I suppose it is a free help forum after all, manned by mostly volunteers. [shrugs]

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                                      • Deleted User
                                        Deleted User last edited by

                                        linuxmint, I dont know what youre talking about. On a thread I created under another username, you were extremely rude, stubborn and insulting. Everyone here gets a thanks from me. But YOU will NEVER get any from me. The only 2 people I respect here are burnout and sgunhouse. They know all about Opera. But you dont know shit!!

                                        Dont reply on ANY of my threads from now on. Make yourself useful and go outside your house for once. Troll someplace else.

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                                        • linuxmint7
                                          linuxmint7 last edited by

                                          On a thread I created under another username, you were extremely rude, stubborn and insulting.

                                          Proves your personality shows through no matter what user name you post via. Oh, and you have no idea what I know, and rude is not one of them, but respect definitely is.

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                                          • Deleted User
                                            Deleted User last edited by

                                            linuxmint, I dont know what youre talking about. On a thread I created under another username, you were extremely rude, stubborn and insulting. Everyone here gets a thanks from me. But YOU will NEVER get any from me. The only 2 people I respect here are burnout and sgunhouse. They know all about Opera. But you dont know shit!!
                                            Dont reply on ANY of my threads from now on. Make yourself useful and go outside your house for once. Troll someplace else.

                                            Uh... you're not in a position to tell others what to reply to or refrain from. This is a public forum and every user is free to respond to all posts... period. The only person I'm finding extremely rude, stubborn and insulting right now is ... well.. take a look in the mirror.

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