General Suggestions and Requests Topic - Opera for Desktops

pschirki

pschirki @Guest

@pavelopdev

Do you mean logical isolation of accounts? In what way? Similar to the Containers implemented in Firefox browser?
This!

A Former User @pschirki

@pschirki Nice of you, thanks.

Up to the time when the Firefox upper echelon declared the war on free speech I was using Firefox with two excellent extensions:

a) Firefox Multi-Account Containers which encapsulated pages efficiently, fending off peepers and other Big Social Hookers from gathering our data,

b) Simple Tab Groups which excellently copied Opera's Workspaces.

They work together and intertwined. They are able to create sort of Software Rolodex of Workspaces. Imagine you have a knob (Opera Sidebar) which you twiddle up or down and new row of tabs (Workspaces) appears in your view in a browser. Read carefully the extensions' descriptions.

That's what you should touch, learn and apply into your working/playing environment. As I said - Firefox censorship and my understanding of free "whatever" are light years apart.

leocg

leocg Moderator Volunteer @pschirki

@pschirki Profile 1 would have your accounts1, Profile 2 would be used for your accounts 2.

Inside each profile you could use several workspaces to separate different themes, subjects, but they wouldn't be for you to login in different accounts in the same service.

pschirki

pschirki @leocg

@leocg I know, and my Suggestion was to change this so one can use at least multiple logins in one workspace.

leocg

leocg Moderator Volunteer @pschirki

@pschirki Changing it would totally break the idea of workspaces.

A Former User @pschirki

@pschirki Think about choosing right tool for your real tasks. New tools are not necessary, not always, at least. On the other side, try to use your monitors' screens aka multiple Desktops for accounts separation. Swiss Army Knife with 100 small shits is a toy for kids, not a real Knife for scouts and globetrotters.

pschirki

pschirki @leocg

@leocg said in General Suggestions and Requests Topic - Opera for Desktops:

@pschirki Changing it would totally break the idea of workspaces.

What? Why is the idea to be able to use different log-ins on different workspaces breaking their idea. As i see it being able to use multiple accounts over different workspaces would eliminate being forced to use different browsers.

A Former User @pschirki

@pschirki Every Workspace is sort of a micro Opera Window (instance) glued together by a mega (crowning) window. It's cheaper to use many Opera separate windows (without profiles) than create new mega window wrapping them up.

The question is interesting - why other browsers incorporated profiles instead of multiple profile tabs.

Have you seen profiled stacks in Vivaldi? They would have implemented your idea of profiled workspaces then.

leocg

leocg Moderator Volunteer @pschirki

@pschirki Because workspaces are for group tabs, so that you can have different sets of pages and windows according to a subject (news, sports, travel, streaming services, social networks, etc). They aren't meant for having different logins in the same service.

hvbog

hvbog

Please improve the reorganisation of speed dials, ik needs to be simplified and speeded up. Drag and drop works for a few items but not to reorganize 300 speed dials

pschirki

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pschirki

pschirki @leocg

@leocg said in General Suggestions and Requests Topic - Opera for Desktops:

@pschirki Because workspaces are for group tabs, so that you can have different sets of pages and windows according to a subject (news, sports, travel, streaming services, social networks, etc). They aren't meant for having different logins in the same service.

@leocg Yes, i know this. and still it would be more convenient to be able to have a solution like this:

1st workspace -> 1st profile = 1st account
2nd workspace -> 1st profile = 2nd account
3rd workspace -> 1st profile = 3nd account
(kudos to @pavelopdev )

than use 3 different browsers for such a solution. Imagine to be able to use 3 different web.whatsapp tabs in one browser in different workspaces! Is this really so unthinkable?

leocg

leocg Moderator Volunteer @pschirki

@pschirki And I don't agree with you.

A Former User @pschirki

@pschirki Did you try to achieve your goal with Vivaldi?

It has:

profile windows (for different accounts)
staacks like workspaces
tiles for multi-tab layout
highly configurable wrapper structure

Let's assume You have two accounts of WhatsApp (WA1, WA2) and two Google Gmail accounts (GG1, GG2).

Now open two Vivaldi windows with own profiles (VP1, VP2) i left-right layout. Use left VP1 to open WA1 and GG2, do similar with the right VP2.

Create a stack with WA1 and GG1 pages and open them using Page tiling feature - e.g. two vertical tiles - WA1 on top of GG1. Repeat the steps for VP2.

     VP1     |     VP2     
    -------------------
     WA1     |     WA2
     GG1     |     GG2
     xx1     |     xx2

I hope you use your own solution or the same which I presented above even, working with many accounts from the same applications (communicators for example). I'm afraid Opera is wrong tool for your jobs.

Opera follows its own scheduled development (well hidden and very secretive) leaving a very small margine for additional radical changes/features.

Bad news, I know.

pschirki

pschirki @leocg

@leocg said in General Suggestions and Requests Topic - Opera for Desktops:

@pschirki And I don't agree with you.

Ah, ok, so your no friend of convenience. You'd rather have Opera users utilize other browsers instead the one whose Forum Mod you are? Weird.

If i would be in your position i'd at least ask some dev if the suggestion was feasible and communicate the answer instead of only stating "My take is: Opera does not need this."

But thanks for the discussion anyway.

leocg

leocg Moderator Volunteer @pschirki

@pschirki I agree that Opera could support multiple profiles, although I usually don't use them and although several pages/services allow you to change accounts kinda easily.

However I don't agree that each workspace should be a different profile.

pschirki

pschirki @leocg

@leocg said in General Suggestions and Requests Topic - Opera for Desktops:

@pschirki I agree that Opera could support multiple profiles, although I usually don't use them and although several pages/services allow you to change accounts kinda easily.

However I don't agree that each workspace should be a different profile.

Ok, agreed. But the possibility having multiple profiles on one workspace or several workspaces with each a set of unique profiles do not exlude themselves, i think?

leocg

leocg Moderator Volunteer @pschirki

@pschirki I guess you mean several workspaces in one profile, like it works today.

I'm not a developer, so it's just a guess but since the two possibilities, having one profile with several workspaces and having one profile for each workspace, are kinda the opposite of each other, maybe having both may be difficult.

Also, to have a different profile on each workspace, it would need to be seen as different program/installation with its own profile directory.

avunaos

avunaos

Whatsapp custom URL button
A small button to enter a custom URL (for instance web.whatsapp.com/send?phone=1234) so you can send messages to new phones.

Images
"Search on google" right click option, to perform a reverse image search

Google account integration
Small button at the top left with links to Gmail, Google Drive, Maps, etc. from your connected google account.

Auto hide sidebar
Similar to windows task bar, when mouse touches the edge, the sidebar comes up, if not, it hides.

oakdaleftl

oakdaleftl @leocg

@leocg I'd like to see a simple toggle to show/hide the tiles on the Speed Dial (Start Page)... (I miss this aesthetic alternative to transparent tiles.) Thanks.