General Suggestions and Requests Topic - Opera for Desktops
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A Former User last edited by leocg
@pschirki Nice of you, thanks.
- Up to the time when the Firefox upper echelon declared the war on free speech I was using Firefox with two excellent extensions:
a) Firefox Multi-Account Containers which encapsulated pages efficiently, fending off peepers and other Big Social Hookers from gathering our data,
b) Simple Tab Groups which excellently copied Opera's Workspaces.
They work together and intertwined. They are able to create sort of Software Rolodex of Workspaces. Imagine you have a knob (Opera Sidebar) which you twiddle up or down and new row of tabs (Workspaces) appears in your view in a browser. Read carefully the extensions' descriptions.
That's what you should touch, learn and apply into your working/playing environment. As I said - Firefox censorship and my understanding of free "whatever" are light years apart.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@pschirki Profile 1 would have your accounts1, Profile 2 would be used for your accounts 2.
Inside each profile you could use several workspaces to separate different themes, subjects, but they wouldn't be for you to login in different accounts in the same service.
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A Former User last edited by
@pschirki Think about choosing right tool for your real tasks. New tools are not necessary, not always, at least. On the other side, try to use your monitors' screens aka multiple Desktops for accounts separation. Swiss Army Knife with 100 small shits is a toy for kids, not a real Knife for scouts and globetrotters.
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pschirki last edited by
@leocg said in General Suggestions and Requests Topic - Opera for Desktops:
@pschirki Changing it would totally break the idea of workspaces.
What? Why is the idea to be able to use different log-ins on different workspaces breaking their idea. As i see it being able to use multiple accounts over different workspaces would eliminate being forced to use different browsers.
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A Former User last edited by A Former User
@pschirki Every Workspace is sort of a micro Opera Window (instance) glued together by a mega (crowning) window. It's cheaper to use many Opera separate windows (without profiles) than create new mega window wrapping them up.
The question is interesting - why other browsers incorporated profiles instead of multiple profile tabs.
Have you seen profiled stacks in Vivaldi? They would have implemented your idea of profiled workspaces then.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@pschirki Because workspaces are for group tabs, so that you can have different sets of pages and windows according to a subject (news, sports, travel, streaming services, social networks, etc). They aren't meant for having different logins in the same service.
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hvbog last edited by
Please improve the reorganisation of speed dials, ik needs to be simplified and speeded up. Drag and drop works for a few items but not to reorganize 300 speed dials
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pschirki last edited by pschirki
@leocg said in General Suggestions and Requests Topic - Opera for Desktops:
@pschirki Because workspaces are for group tabs, so that you can have different sets of pages and windows according to a subject (news, sports, travel, streaming services, social networks, etc). They aren't meant for having different logins in the same service.
@leocg Yes, i know this. and still it would be more convenient to be able to have a solution like this:
1st workspace -> 1st profile = 1st account
2nd workspace -> 1st profile = 2nd account
3rd workspace -> 1st profile = 3nd account
(kudos to @pavelopdev )than use 3 different browsers for such a solution. Imagine to be able to use 3 different web.whatsapp tabs in one browser in different workspaces! Is this really so unthinkable?
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A Former User last edited by A Former User
@pschirki Did you try to achieve your goal with Vivaldi?
It has:
- profile windows (for different accounts)
- staacks like workspaces
- tiles for multi-tab layout
- highly configurable wrapper structure
Let's assume You have two accounts of WhatsApp (WA1, WA2) and two Google Gmail accounts (GG1, GG2).
Now open two Vivaldi windows with own profiles (VP1, VP2) i left-right layout. Use left VP1 to open WA1 and GG2, do similar with the right VP2.
Create a stack with WA1 and GG1 pages and open them using Page tiling feature - e.g. two vertical tiles - WA1 on top of GG1. Repeat the steps for VP2.
VP1 | VP2 ------------------- WA1 | WA2 GG1 | GG2 xx1 | xx2I hope you use your own solution or the same which I presented above even, working with many accounts from the same applications (communicators for example). I'm afraid Opera is wrong tool for your jobs.
Opera follows its own scheduled development (well hidden and very secretive) leaving a very small margine for additional radical changes/features.
Bad news, I know.
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pschirki last edited by
@leocg said in General Suggestions and Requests Topic - Opera for Desktops:
@pschirki And I don't agree with you.
Ah, ok, so your no friend of convenience. You'd rather have Opera users utilize other browsers instead the one whose Forum Mod you are? Weird.
If i would be in your position i'd at least ask some dev if the suggestion was feasible and communicate the answer instead of only stating "My take is: Opera does not need this."
But thanks for the discussion anyway.
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pschirki last edited by
@leocg said in General Suggestions and Requests Topic - Opera for Desktops:
@pschirki I agree that Opera could support multiple profiles, although I usually don't use them and although several pages/services allow you to change accounts kinda easily.
However I don't agree that each workspace should be a different profile.
Ok, agreed. But the possibility having multiple profiles on one workspace or several workspaces with each a set of unique profiles do not exlude themselves, i think?
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@pschirki I guess you mean several workspaces in one profile, like it works today.
I'm not a developer, so it's just a guess but since the two possibilities, having one profile with several workspaces and having one profile for each workspace, are kinda the opposite of each other, maybe having both may be difficult.
Also, to have a different profile on each workspace, it would need to be seen as different program/installation with its own profile directory.
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avunaos last edited by
Whatsapp custom URL button
A small button to enter a custom URL (for instance web.whatsapp.com/send?phone=1234) so you can send messages to new phones.Images
"Search on google" right click option, to perform a reverse image searchGoogle account integration
Small button at the top left with links to Gmail, Google Drive, Maps, etc. from your connected google account.Auto hide sidebar
Similar to windows task bar, when mouse touches the edge, the sidebar comes up, if not, it hides. -
oakdaleftl last edited by oakdaleftl@leocg I'd like to see a simple toggle to show/hide the tiles on the Speed Dial (Start Page)... (I miss this aesthetic alternative to transparent tiles.) Thanks.
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Prince-Nox last edited by leocg
Feel free to point me in the right direction if there's a forum about future releases that detail the following features!
So I've only been using Opera for about 2 days but already I'm liking it better than Chrome. I've been looking for an alternative for Ages since Google started changing stuff even after consumers told them they didn't want it. Here are some small but quality of life features I think Opera should consider;
A Home Button
-Now I know we have the Speed Dial button and honestly SD is a really cool thing, but personally I'd like to have the option of a custom home button there next to it, as normally I have Google search on a home button to quickly hope back to it. Currently I'm using an extension that adds a home button but it's on the right hand side, waaay away from all the other useful buttons I'm using.Bookmarks Manager
-Honestly only have a couple of critiques for BM as everything else is perfect, please never pull a Chrome and change it for no reason, but anyway. Firstly I'd like to have more settings for customizing BM, particularly an option to change ALL bookmarks and folders to the list or tile view and not just change one folder at a time. I have a tonne of bookmarks and folders and going through one by one changing them to list view will take forever. Secondly, anytime I go to save a bookmark it takes a good 10 to 20 seconds to open the dropdown menu, this could be a problem with my computer however I think it might also be because of 1. the thumbnail that loads for every bookmark, and/or 2. the dropdown menu has to load every single folder I have. It's almost crashed Opera a couple of times mid-load, so I think having the Chrome method of opening a separate mini window to pick the folder I want to save something in would work much better, especially since I have to open up folders in folders sometimes and the tiny dropdown menu is kinda' awkward for that.Right Click, Search Image
-I know I know, another Chrome feature, but it's a feature I and many others use daily and not having it on Opera is lowkey a deal-breaker. Chrome is set to replace the "search with Google Images" feature on the right click dropdown menu with the highly inferior "search with Google Lens", and I for one despise this choice, but I've been burned before with Google just not giving a damn about their consumers and changing things anyway (see above). Once Google officially rolls out the Google Lens replacement I can see a lot of people looking for cheats and alternatives, in fact that's already happening, a quick "how to turn off Google Lens" search shows hundreds of thousands of results of people complaining and looking to go back, rightfully so might I add. It's quite literally the best time for Opera to adopt the right click search image feature.I might come back to this and add more at some point, but for now these are the biggest things I'd personally love to see. I look forward to a bright future where I can comfortably escape Google's claws!
