General Suggestions and Requests Topic - Opera for Desktops

A Former User @pschirki

@pschirki I'm a bit retarded. Would you mind share your views in more understandable details?

Do you mean log-ins as profiles?
Do you mean log-ins as Opera accounts?
Do you mean log-in to, ekhm..., to what?
Do you mean asking for "multiple log.ins":
1st workspace -> 1st profile = 1st account
2nd workspace -> 2nd profile = 2nd account
3rd workspace -> 3rd profile = 3nd account
...
or
1st workspace -> 1st profile = 1st account
2nd workspace -> 1st profile = 2nd account
3rd workspace -> 1st profile = 3nd account
...
or
1st workspace -> 1st profile = 1st account
2nd workspace -> 2nd profile = 1st account
3rd workspace -> 3rd profile = 1st account

P.S. I used 5" diskettes.

pschirki

pschirki @Guest

@pavelopdev
Hi, i mean:

1st workspace -> 1st profile = 1st account
2nd workspace -> 1st profile = 2nd account
3rd workspace -> 1st profile = 3nd account

be like

1st workspace -> googleacc1, facebook acc1, etc.
2nd workspace - > googleacc2, facebook acc2, etc.

but everything with the same Opera profile logged in if this would work.

On my first 5" were LHX Attack Chopper and Carrier Command

leocg

leocg Moderator Volunteer @pschirki

@pschirki Workspaces = tabs group/stack. What you want is that Opera supports multiple profiles.

A Former User @pschirki

@pschirki Thanks. Anyway I'm still in fog of possibilities.

I had three accounts of Yandex services once. I cannot envision any hindrance today, to open them in 1 workspace or every account in one different workspace.

What your suggestion might bring into your habits of your work or improved efficiency in dealing with such monstrous number of accounts?.

Do you mean logical isolation of accounts? In what way? Similar to the Containers implemented in Firefox browser?

I'm open for all improvements to the idea of multiple workspaces as it is a truly brilliant one. You may open 24 of workspaces distributed in many windows as you like (n WS x 24). I use two or four (for testing purpose) windows on one screen as for now. Every window is populated with 6 WSs. Each of them can open different pages, despite the same workspace icons.

If Google discovers the same IP so what? Yandex knew my IP, it knew that the three accounts of mine were opened from the same place and the same PC. Nothing. It worked.

There is a requests for unique bookmark pools for every workspace. I'm not for it, but I accept that idea. Multiplying features, or in reality - increasing unnecessary complication of Opera application, isn't the best path for Opera improvement. In other words - I like to have a clear view of well proved rationale.

Summing up - I do not understand your idea.

Have a nice time!

pschirki

pschirki @leocg

@leocg @pavelopdev Thanks for answering!

Yes, and this maybe to separate by workspaces.

So that on workspace 1 are my personal google/Microsoft etc account
and on workspace 2 my work accounts from Google, MS etc.

I tried the sessionbox extension, but when i open lets say the my personal google account on one tab and my work account on a 2nd tab , on every page i open with the 2nd account is my 1st account logged in.
I hope you understand my problem, as i am no native english speaker

pschirki

pschirki @Guest

@pavelopdev

Do you mean logical isolation of accounts? In what way? Similar to the Containers implemented in Firefox browser?
This!

A Former User @pschirki

@pschirki Nice of you, thanks.

Up to the time when the Firefox upper echelon declared the war on free speech I was using Firefox with two excellent extensions:

a) Firefox Multi-Account Containers which encapsulated pages efficiently, fending off peepers and other Big Social Hookers from gathering our data,

b) Simple Tab Groups which excellently copied Opera's Workspaces.

They work together and intertwined. They are able to create sort of Software Rolodex of Workspaces. Imagine you have a knob (Opera Sidebar) which you twiddle up or down and new row of tabs (Workspaces) appears in your view in a browser. Read carefully the extensions' descriptions.

That's what you should touch, learn and apply into your working/playing environment. As I said - Firefox censorship and my understanding of free "whatever" are light years apart.

leocg

leocg Moderator Volunteer @pschirki

@pschirki Profile 1 would have your accounts1, Profile 2 would be used for your accounts 2.

Inside each profile you could use several workspaces to separate different themes, subjects, but they wouldn't be for you to login in different accounts in the same service.

pschirki

pschirki @leocg

@leocg I know, and my Suggestion was to change this so one can use at least multiple logins in one workspace.

leocg

leocg Moderator Volunteer @pschirki

@pschirki Changing it would totally break the idea of workspaces.

A Former User @pschirki

@pschirki Think about choosing right tool for your real tasks. New tools are not necessary, not always, at least. On the other side, try to use your monitors' screens aka multiple Desktops for accounts separation. Swiss Army Knife with 100 small shits is a toy for kids, not a real Knife for scouts and globetrotters.

pschirki

pschirki @leocg

@leocg said in General Suggestions and Requests Topic - Opera for Desktops:

@pschirki Changing it would totally break the idea of workspaces.

What? Why is the idea to be able to use different log-ins on different workspaces breaking their idea. As i see it being able to use multiple accounts over different workspaces would eliminate being forced to use different browsers.

A Former User @pschirki

@pschirki Every Workspace is sort of a micro Opera Window (instance) glued together by a mega (crowning) window. It's cheaper to use many Opera separate windows (without profiles) than create new mega window wrapping them up.

The question is interesting - why other browsers incorporated profiles instead of multiple profile tabs.

Have you seen profiled stacks in Vivaldi? They would have implemented your idea of profiled workspaces then.

leocg

leocg Moderator Volunteer @pschirki

@pschirki Because workspaces are for group tabs, so that you can have different sets of pages and windows according to a subject (news, sports, travel, streaming services, social networks, etc). They aren't meant for having different logins in the same service.

hvbog

hvbog

Please improve the reorganisation of speed dials, ik needs to be simplified and speeded up. Drag and drop works for a few items but not to reorganize 300 speed dials

pschirki

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pschirki

pschirki @leocg

@leocg said in General Suggestions and Requests Topic - Opera for Desktops:

@pschirki Because workspaces are for group tabs, so that you can have different sets of pages and windows according to a subject (news, sports, travel, streaming services, social networks, etc). They aren't meant for having different logins in the same service.

@leocg Yes, i know this. and still it would be more convenient to be able to have a solution like this:

1st workspace -> 1st profile = 1st account
2nd workspace -> 1st profile = 2nd account
3rd workspace -> 1st profile = 3nd account
(kudos to @pavelopdev )

than use 3 different browsers for such a solution. Imagine to be able to use 3 different web.whatsapp tabs in one browser in different workspaces! Is this really so unthinkable?

leocg

leocg Moderator Volunteer @pschirki

@pschirki And I don't agree with you.

A Former User @pschirki

@pschirki Did you try to achieve your goal with Vivaldi?

It has:

profile windows (for different accounts)
staacks like workspaces
tiles for multi-tab layout
highly configurable wrapper structure

Let's assume You have two accounts of WhatsApp (WA1, WA2) and two Google Gmail accounts (GG1, GG2).

Now open two Vivaldi windows with own profiles (VP1, VP2) i left-right layout. Use left VP1 to open WA1 and GG2, do similar with the right VP2.

Create a stack with WA1 and GG1 pages and open them using Page tiling feature - e.g. two vertical tiles - WA1 on top of GG1. Repeat the steps for VP2.

     VP1     |     VP2     
    -------------------
     WA1     |     WA2
     GG1     |     GG2
     xx1     |     xx2

I hope you use your own solution or the same which I presented above even, working with many accounts from the same applications (communicators for example). I'm afraid Opera is wrong tool for your jobs.

Opera follows its own scheduled development (well hidden and very secretive) leaving a very small margine for additional radical changes/features.

Bad news, I know.

pschirki

pschirki @leocg

@leocg said in General Suggestions and Requests Topic - Opera for Desktops:

@pschirki And I don't agree with you.

Ah, ok, so your no friend of convenience. You'd rather have Opera users utilize other browsers instead the one whose Forum Mod you are? Weird.

If i would be in your position i'd at least ask some dev if the suggestion was feasible and communicate the answer instead of only stating "My take is: Opera does not need this."

But thanks for the discussion anyway.