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  • Does Opera have a plan for the End Of Life of Adobe Flash

  • @wackymac Opera, as all other Chromium based browsers, will follow Chromium roadmap.

  • Hi!
    In Chromium roadmap is written
    Flash Player blocked as "out of date" (Target: All Chrome versions - Jan 2021)
    Flash Player will be blocked in ALL Chrome versions.

    You said that Opera will follow Chromium roadmap, does that mean that Opera will also block FP in ALL Chromium based Opera versions retroactively - current and older versions?

    Thank you!

  • @cikaraki Probably just the future versions, since they don't release updates for old versions.
    However, based on what I understood of Flash own road map, it will stop working on all browsers in January 2021.

  • @leocg I think that flash will not just stop working but Adobe will stop supporting it and will remove all FP download pages. So users that already have it installed would be able to use it.
    Now in chromium browsers there is a mechanism for disabling out-dated plugins without actually updating the browser, chrome will use it to disable FP in all versions.
    My question above was if Opera will use that mechanism as well to disable FP to all chromium-based Opera versions.

    You said probably not. However, I need more certainty in the answer as "probably" is 50/50 chance :), and it is hard do use it as an argument to make a decision.

  • @cikaraki I've heard that Flash would stop working even for those that already have it installed.

    Regarding the question about if Opera will block Flash for all users, I guess we will have to wait to see if there is a official position.
    However, I would guess they will follow Chrome on that.

  • @cikaraki If one refers to Adobe's Flash Player EOL Information Page, they will note: ( 'https://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/end-of-life.html' )

    Section 4 states: "Adobe will be removing Flash Player download pages from its site and Flash-based content will be blocked from running in Adobe Flash Player after the EOL Date."
    Section 7 states: "As of mid-October 2020, users started being prompted by Adobe to uninstall Flash Player on their machines since Flash-based content will be blocked from running in Adobe Flash Player after the EOL Date." (My emphasis in both quotes)

    Make of this what you will, but many Flash users believe that kill-switch code or something similar will be (or has been) installed into recent Flash versions that will cause it to cease working at the end of the year. In any case, Adobe is making it clear (probably to terminate any post-EOL financial liabilities) that they will actively try to block further Flash usage after 2020. Considering how widespread Flash usage has been and, given that it's inherently a scripting language, it's been chock-full of past security holes... so it would be understandable for Adobe to take drastic measures to curtail its ongoing use after EOL.

  • Hello.

    Can i have some question about Adobe Flash Player? Because it ends next day or in new year and i havent got download some games. Will there be a Flash in older versions of the Opera? For example in version 2015? Because i very love Flash. 😃
    My version: https://imgur.com/a/5FnCd5Z

    Thank you.

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  • @theiconn said in Opera - Adobe Flash Player:

    Hello.

    Can i have some question about Adobe Flash Player? Because it ends next day or in new year and i havent got download some games. Will there be a Flash in older versions of the Opera? For example in version 2015? Because i very love Flash. 😃
    My version: https://imgur.com/a/5FnCd5Z

    Thank you.

    For most browsers, Flash had to be installed directly into the computer as a plug-in and was then activated for Flash-containing websites by enabling the browser to make use of it via some form of Flash setting in the browser. Depending on the age of the browser version and the brand, there have been historically different methods of performing that enabling operation, especially in the past year or two as browsers have been redesigned knowing that Flash was going to be deprecated. Hence, how you have to go about enabling Flash in an older browser depends on the specific version and brand of the browser involved.

    Several points to keep in mind, however. First, reverting to an old browser version and/or an old Flash version (if one can even find it) will automatically mean you will be susceptible to all the (probably many, in Flash's case) malware exploits and vulnerabilities that were patched away in the months/years after the version was first released. Second, Adobe (who makes Flash) has clearly stated it is going to seriously attempt to kill Flash from working after the January 2021 end-of-life date - so, depending on how they go about doing that, it may cause even old browser/Flash versions to not function against Flash programs. Third, going forward, it's anybody's guess how much longer the remaining Flash-using websites will continue to persist in keeping such programs/features alive... the Flash user base is bound to shrivel up very quickly after EOL.

  • Opera 27? Or did you mean 72?

  • I meant Opera 27.

  • @theiconn said in End of Adobe Flash:

    I meant Opera 27.

    Opera 27 was released on January 27, 2015 and was based on Chromium 40. The current underlying Chromium version used in Opera is now in the upper 80's. If you're still using (or considering using) a 6-year-old browser like Opera 27, the number of contained security flaws is significant - not even considering the ongoing risks of using Flash. In that case, keep your system fully and frequently backed up to off-computer media unless the computer contains nothing of any value to you or someone malicious.

  • @blackbird71 when there will be an update in the opera that will solve the problem with Adobe Flash

  • @kirill2206 Problem? Flash is gone, that's all. Opera still works fine. Some Facebook games had to be pulled (from Facebook, not anything Opera did), but everything else should be fine.

  • @kirill2206 What problem? Flash no longer exists, so there won't be any fixes for it.

  • Please, lock it thanks.