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    • lakrsrool
      lakrsrool last edited by leocg

      My start-page has a setting that has an option to login to Google to setup a Calendar on the page.

      My Opera browser is set to English (not any other language) and it works entirely in English for everything I do with the one exception as described below.

      My browser and search engine and O.S. are all using English as are all my other 5 browsers none of which have this problem.

      But for Opera only when I click on the option to setup the Calendar widget on my start-page --- Opera only takes be to a Google Login page in Norwegian (it is supposed to go to Google Login page so that's fine but it needs to be in English). Since I am not logged in at that point I have no access to change the language even if I wanted to.

      This is only a problem with Opera.

      Please advise as to how I can avoid getting the Norwegian language on the Google Login page in this case in the Opera browser when I attempt to setup my calendar.

      Note: All other Google Login pages are in English if I use the Internet Login. It is only the start-page setup that takes me to a Google Login page that ends up in the Norwegian language.

      It cannot be a start-page problem because all other 5 browsers do not have this problem.

      There must be something deep within the Opera Browser code that defaults to the Norwegian language under specific conditions (as a retired programmer myself -- this is my educated guess).

      Thanks in advance for any help.

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      • donq
        donq @lakrsrool last edited by

        @lakrsrool

        Looks like you are using Opera VPN?

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        • lakrsrool
          lakrsrool @donq last edited by

          @donq Yes -- I have that option enabled. I wondered about that -- so I did disable the VPN option and found this did not make any difference. Is there something else I need to know about the VPN option. Should I restart the browser after disabling that option?

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          • lakrsrool
            lakrsrool last edited by lakrsrool

            This is the URL that my start-page setup takes me to for a Calendar setup using Opera.

            DELETE LINK (problem resolved)

            I'm providing this in case there is somewhere in this URL that can be identified as to why I'm getting a Nowegian Google login when all my settings are for English

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            • lakrsrool
              lakrsrool last edited by lakrsrool

              OK -- I found the problem. I had disabled the VPN option but had not closed and restarted the Opera browser.

              Now that I did that I am getting the Google login in English like I should.

              This seems to be a problem with VPN as far as this language login issue occurring when using VPN.

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              • leocg
                leocg Moderator Volunteer @lakrsrool last edited by

                @lakrsrool The problem is with the page.

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                • lakrsrool
                  lakrsrool @leocg last edited by

                  @leocg said in Opera opens Google Login Page for Calendar from my start-page in Norwegian:

                  @lakrsrool The problem is with the page.

                  Can you elaborate -- it occurs when VPN is enabled. And this problem does not occur in any other browsers (5 others have no problem)

                  For the record -- the login that I needed to reply to for Google is to "allow" the start-page access to Google.

                  Perhaps the Opera VPN is impacting this Google security process.

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                  • leocg
                    leocg Moderator Volunteer @lakrsrool last edited by

                    @lakrsrool It was already explained before. Basically, most of those using the VPN are also using that language, so the page automatically sets the language for those accessing it through the VPN.

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                    • lakrsrool
                      lakrsrool @leocg last edited by

                      @leocg said in Opera opens Google Login Page for Calendar from my start-page in Norwegian:

                      @lakrsrool It was already explained before. Basically, most of those using the VPN are also using that language, so the page automatically sets the language for those accessing it through the VPN.

                      Thanks for the reply -- this was not clear to me as far as what has been explained.

                      Is there a way to set the Opera VPN to a preferred language other than Norwegian?

                      If not -- would you agree this is a problem with the Opera VPN option?

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                      • leocg
                        leocg Moderator Volunteer @lakrsrool last edited by

                        @lakrsrool Nope, I don't agree.

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                        • lakrsrool
                          lakrsrool @leocg last edited by lakrsrool

                          @leocg said in Opera opens Google Login Page for Calendar from my start-page in Norwegian:

                          @lakrsrool Nope, I don't agree.

                          I will explain why I feel it is a problem. Would you be kind enough to explain why you disagree (as opposed to just "Nope")?

                          My reasons why I feel it is a problem is because:

                          1. Clearly the majority of Opera users do not speak Norwegian.
                          2. To only provide one language under these circumstances is clearly both far to restrictive and to be fair not only biased but can be considered by many racist. That is keeping in mind we are talking about a Browser for purposes of accessing the Internet (i.e. world-wide-web) that is as we all know world-wide.
                          3. I would suggest to you that "most people" do not speak Norwegian who use the VPN option (as you intimated is the case).
                          4. I can't believe that the intention of Opera is to deny many millions of users the rendering of their own language when using the VPN option.

                          And I would add if this is actually the intention of Opera then I think most reasonable people would agree that this disclosure should be provided to users in regards to using VPN -- the fact this disclosure is not provided supports my contention that I doubt very much this is the intent of Opera.

                          All of my reasons above suggest that this is not only a problem but very likely an unintentional outcome and thus I would argue can be defined as a "bug".

                          Now can we hear from you as to your reasons why it makes sense to provide one language for VPN?

                          Thanks in advance.

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                          • leocg
                            leocg Moderator Volunteer @lakrsrool last edited by

                            @lakrsrool See https://forums.opera.com/post/138823

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                            • lakrsrool
                              lakrsrool @leocg last edited by

                              @leocg Thank you for the providing the "real" reason for the problem. Which is that because of VPN -- Google attempts (badly I would add) to determine the "real" language of the user involving 3rd-party software accessing Google.

                              So it's not that there is a "problem is with the page" or that "most of those using the VPN are also using that [Norwegian] language" (as previously stated) -- but is instead Google mucking things up (not surprising).

                              Just one more reason among so many reasons why I do not like Google. 😞

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                              • donq
                                donq @lakrsrool last edited by

                                @lakrsrool
                                Do you know, how VPN operates? In short, your network connection is made through VPN server and destination doesn't see your IP, but VPN servers IP. If your [Opera] VPN server is located in Norway, then destination may decide that you are located in Norway either - and ignore your browser language settings then - which of course is not nice, but try to fight with google 😞

                                I have similar problems with Microsoft services - I have everywhere set language to english, but they know that I'm located in Estonia and they often present me ugly and buggy estionian translations, even after choosing english as display langugae. Maybe I should start using VPN (to get norwegian pages or something ... )

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                                • lakrsrool
                                  lakrsrool @donq last edited by lakrsrool

                                  @donq Thanks for the explanation. This not only explains why getting Google to allow my start-page Calendar widget caused the authorization of the widget to login to Google in Norwegian (instead of the language I have everything set at) -- but also explains why I'm having a problem with another widget. That is specifically, my Weather Widget continues to show the Weather for a location that appears to be in Norway as well.

                                  So I've had to redesign my Start-Page without the Calendar widget and also to use a different Weather Widget that takes the City manually entered by the user for the Weather location as opposed to the Widget determining the Weather location as had been the case before.

                                  I guess it's definitely safer to use VPN -- but no without its impinging issues that come with using it.

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                                  • lakrsrool
                                    lakrsrool last edited by lakrsrool

                                    As an after-thought.... I'm wondering why Google manages to get all other log-in dialog's to work w/out any language "guessing" problems using VPN. But in this specific case there's a problem.

                                    One thing is -- why can't Google simply look at a persons language settings on file for the users specific account as opposed to this guessing game where a person is located based on where a VPN server might be located.

                                    I'm asking this because of the previous explanation: "If your [Opera] VPN server is located in Norway, then destination may decide that you are located in Norway either - and ignore your browser language settings then - which of course is not nice..."

                                    It seems to me that it makes no sense to "ignore [user] language settings" and instead look at a VPN Server location to decide what language to use for their dialog prompts.

                                    Obviously Google has to have access to a users Google language settings in their respective Google account. So a VPN Server location should not be impacting language issues it seems to me if Google was practicing common sense. And besides -- I have no problem logging into Google Gmail on the web using their web login dialog -- the problem only exists allowing authorization from Google to use my start-page for a Google function (specifically their Calendar).

                                    But then -- it is Google we're talking about. Why it's so popular (beyond the madness of "herd mentality") is beyond me. I personally make every attempt at avoiding anything Google -- but the "herd mentality" in many cases makes doing this very difficult.

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