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Opera opens Google Login Page for Calendar from my start-page in Norwegian

  • @leocg said in Opera opens Google Login Page for Calendar from my start-page in Norwegian:

    @lakrsrool The problem is with the page.

    Can you elaborate -- it occurs when VPN is enabled. And this problem does not occur in any other browsers (5 others have no problem)

    For the record -- the login that I needed to reply to for Google is to "allow" the start-page access to Google.

    Perhaps the Opera VPN is impacting this Google security process.

  • @lakrsrool It was already explained before. Basically, most of those using the VPN are also using that language, so the page automatically sets the language for those accessing it through the VPN.

  • @leocg said in Opera opens Google Login Page for Calendar from my start-page in Norwegian:

    @lakrsrool It was already explained before. Basically, most of those using the VPN are also using that language, so the page automatically sets the language for those accessing it through the VPN.

    Thanks for the reply -- this was not clear to me as far as what has been explained.

    Is there a way to set the Opera VPN to a preferred language other than Norwegian?

    If not -- would you agree this is a problem with the Opera VPN option?

  • @lakrsrool Nope, I don't agree.

  • @leocg said in Opera opens Google Login Page for Calendar from my start-page in Norwegian:

    @lakrsrool Nope, I don't agree.

    I will explain why I feel it is a problem. Would you be kind enough to explain why you disagree (as opposed to just "Nope")?

    My reasons why I feel it is a problem is because:

    1. Clearly the majority of Opera users do not speak Norwegian.
    2. To only provide one language under these circumstances is clearly both far to restrictive and to be fair not only biased but can be considered by many racist. That is keeping in mind we are talking about a Browser for purposes of accessing the Internet (i.e. world-wide-web) that is as we all know world-wide.
    3. I would suggest to you that "most people" do not speak Norwegian who use the VPN option (as you intimated is the case).
    4. I can't believe that the intention of Opera is to deny many millions of users the rendering of their own language when using the VPN option.

    And I would add if this is actually the intention of Opera then I think most reasonable people would agree that this disclosure should be provided to users in regards to using VPN -- the fact this disclosure is not provided supports my contention that I doubt very much this is the intent of Opera.

    All of my reasons above suggest that this is not only a problem but very likely an unintentional outcome and thus I would argue can be defined as a "bug".

    Now can we hear from you as to your reasons why it makes sense to provide one language for VPN?

    Thanks in advance.

  • @leocg Thank you for the providing the "real" reason for the problem. Which is that because of VPN -- Google attempts (badly I would add) to determine the "real" language of the user involving 3rd-party software accessing Google.

    So it's not that there is a "problem is with the page" or that "most of those using the VPN are also using that [Norwegian] language" (as previously stated) -- but is instead Google mucking things up (not surprising).

    Just one more reason among so many reasons why I do not like Google. 😞

  • @lakrsrool
    Do you know, how VPN operates? In short, your network connection is made through VPN server and destination doesn't see your IP, but VPN servers IP. If your [Opera] VPN server is located in Norway, then destination may decide that you are located in Norway either - and ignore your browser language settings then - which of course is not nice, but try to fight with google 😞

    I have similar problems with Microsoft services - I have everywhere set language to english, but they know that I'm located in Estonia and they often present me ugly and buggy estionian translations, even after choosing english as display langugae. Maybe I should start using VPN (to get norwegian pages or something ... )

  • @donq Thanks for the explanation. This not only explains why getting Google to allow my start-page Calendar widget caused the authorization of the widget to login to Google in Norwegian (instead of the language I have everything set at) -- but also explains why I'm having a problem with another widget. That is specifically, my Weather Widget continues to show the Weather for a location that appears to be in Norway as well.

    So I've had to redesign my Start-Page without the Calendar widget and also to use a different Weather Widget that takes the City manually entered by the user for the Weather location as opposed to the Widget determining the Weather location as had been the case before.

    I guess it's definitely safer to use VPN -- but no without its impinging issues that come with using it.

  • As an after-thought.... I'm wondering why Google manages to get all other log-in dialog's to work w/out any language "guessing" problems using VPN. But in this specific case there's a problem.

    One thing is -- why can't Google simply look at a persons language settings on file for the users specific account as opposed to this guessing game where a person is located based on where a VPN server might be located.

    I'm asking this because of the previous explanation: "If your [Opera] VPN server is located in Norway, then destination may decide that you are located in Norway either - and ignore your browser language settings then - which of course is not nice..."

    It seems to me that it makes no sense to "ignore [user] language settings" and instead look at a VPN Server location to decide what language to use for their dialog prompts.

    Obviously Google has to have access to a users Google language settings in their respective Google account. So a VPN Server location should not be impacting language issues it seems to me if Google was practicing common sense. And besides -- I have no problem logging into Google Gmail on the web using their web login dialog -- the problem only exists allowing authorization from Google to use my start-page for a Google function (specifically their Calendar).

    But then -- it is Google we're talking about. Why it's so popular (beyond the madness of "herd mentality") is beyond me. I personally make every attempt at avoiding anything Google -- but the "herd mentality" in many cases makes doing this very difficult.

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