Workspaces as separate sessions
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by leocg
@edmarcio Tabs groups (islands) was introduced only in Opera One, while workspaces have been there for years already.
For workspaces to work the way people are suggesting, it would need to be rewritten. And it would need to use a different profile for each one.
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edmarcio last edited by edmarcio
@leocg I think we will agree to disagree here... workspace is not tab groups and I don't believe Opera devs created it as tab groups (it makes no sense).
Plus you guys talking about profiles when Private Windows works with the same profile and have clean cookies/cache.I guess only Opera devs knows what is possible or not... and imo it is a matter of time/work to implement the feature and priorities than the "impossible" or "have to use other profiles" excuses.
I had no ideia the community here (not the devs) where so against features requests lol -
leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@edmarcio Well, it was. See https://help.opera.com/en/latest/features/#workspaces and the posts when Opera version with workspaces was released.
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edmarcio last edited by edmarcio
@leocg said in Workspaces as separate sessions:
@edmarcio Well, it was. See https://help.opera.com/en/latest/features/#workspaces and the posts when Opera version with workspaces was released.
No sure what are you trying to say in no place in that link says anything about "group" because you not actually "grouping" tabs but creating a new empty area for them.
"Think of workspaces as pockets for tabs – you can keep them empty, or you can fill them."
Now look what they said about Tab Islands: https://blogs.opera.com/news/2023/06/opera-tab-islands/
"This way, each browsing context is kept in a separate group for easy organization and focused browsing."
See the difference?
@leocg said in Workspaces as separate sessions:
@edmarcio Opera seems to be implementing multiple profiles, there's a flag in Opera Developer.
That is nice... and it is a very requested feature too (and I see it as priority).
But it won't help with Workspace session isolation that we are asking... talking about myself only here multiples profiles is not useful but I see others uses for it. -
jojo0587 last edited by
@leocg said in Workspaces as separate sessions:
Workspaces are/were Opera's implementation of tabs groups. It was never meant to have a different profile/session/whatever.
Thank you. You calmed me down. Turning workspaces into profiles (in whole or in part) is a really bad idea. I don't want this to affect Opera.
@leocg said in Workspaces as separate sessions:
Workspaces were created and released as a way to organize tabs.
I agree with you a hundred times. Even a thousand times!
@leocg said in Workspaces as separate sessions:
Opera seems to be implementing multiple profiles, there's a flag in Opera Developer.
Opera 102.0.4857.0 and this flag?
opera://flags/#side-profiles
I turned it on and in the Opera interface I don't see anything about choosing a profile.My proposals for changes in Opera (Google Document).
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jojo0587 last edited by
@leocg said in Workspaces as separate sessions:
The way for workspaces to have a isolated session would be them working as a private window. That means all data being lost when you exit Opera.
@edmarcio At the moment you should have several Opera portables. Or one Opera portable and use the trick with changing the name of the profile directory that I wrote about here:
https://forums.opera.com/post/317560
But the downside is that you can only use one profile at a time.My proposals for changes in Opera (Google Document).
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edmarcio last edited by edmarcio
@leocg that is not necessary true... it is a feature to clean data after exit in private windows... the developer can disable that if they want.
You guys are taking private window example too literal... devs needs just to develop Workspace to work like private widowns without clean up the cache/cookies on exit.
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edmarcio last edited by edmarcio
@jojo0587 that is not pratical in any way so that is why we are asking for Workspace have sperated sessions by itself using the same profile.
Do you understand that the ideia of feature request is about something that can't be done with the actual software and the developer have to work to add that new feature?
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jojo0587 last edited by
@edmarcio said in Workspaces as separate sessions:
that is not pratical in any way so that is why we are asking for Workspace have sperated sessions by itself using the same profile.
Apparently, I'm not the only one who thinks that workspaces were created so that the user could sort the cards thematically. And it makes no sense to push partial functionality of profiles into this feature.
Want to have actual separate cookie sessions? Wait for real profiles to be added to Opera.
My proposals for changes in Opera (Google Document).
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rodrigocipriani last edited by
@leocg, that's weird. Workspace is/was a tab group that now is Workspaces. It seems like it's tab groups with new clothes. I believe that this comment was probably a misunderstanding.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@rodrigocipriani Workspaces are a way to organize windows and tabs by theme, by subject.
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jojo0587 last edited by
@leocg said in Workspaces as separate sessions:
Also I don't know if Chromium allows to have multiple isolated sessions.
It allows because a certain browser running on Chromium has profiles for a long time. And yes, you can even run several profiles at once.
My proposals for changes in Opera (Google Document).
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rodrigocipriani last edited by
I believe that what the majority here is saying is that workspace is a nice feature, and everyone loves it, but it would be a lot more useful if you could choose to start a new workspace by sharing the session or using a new one.
