Workspaces as separate sessions
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@edmarcio Well, it was. See https://help.opera.com/en/latest/features/#workspaces and the posts when Opera version with workspaces was released.
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edmarcio last edited by edmarcio
@leocg said in Workspaces as separate sessions:
@edmarcio Well, it was. See https://help.opera.com/en/latest/features/#workspaces and the posts when Opera version with workspaces was released.
No sure what are you trying to say in no place in that link says anything about "group" because you not actually "grouping" tabs but creating a new empty area for them.
"Think of workspaces as pockets for tabs – you can keep them empty, or you can fill them."
Now look what they said about Tab Islands: https://blogs.opera.com/news/2023/06/opera-tab-islands/
"This way, each browsing context is kept in a separate group for easy organization and focused browsing."
See the difference?
@leocg said in Workspaces as separate sessions:
@edmarcio Opera seems to be implementing multiple profiles, there's a flag in Opera Developer.
That is nice... and it is a very requested feature too (and I see it as priority).
But it won't help with Workspace session isolation that we are asking... talking about myself only here multiples profiles is not useful but I see others uses for it. -
jojo0587 last edited by
@leocg said in Workspaces as separate sessions:
Workspaces are/were Opera's implementation of tabs groups. It was never meant to have a different profile/session/whatever.
Thank you. You calmed me down. Turning workspaces into profiles (in whole or in part) is a really bad idea. I don't want this to affect Opera.
@leocg said in Workspaces as separate sessions:
Workspaces were created and released as a way to organize tabs.
I agree with you a hundred times. Even a thousand times!
@leocg said in Workspaces as separate sessions:
Opera seems to be implementing multiple profiles, there's a flag in Opera Developer.
Opera 102.0.4857.0 and this flag?
opera://flags/#side-profiles
I turned it on and in the Opera interface I don't see anything about choosing a profile.My proposals for changes in Opera (Google Document).
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jojo0587 last edited by
@leocg said in Workspaces as separate sessions:
The way for workspaces to have a isolated session would be them working as a private window. That means all data being lost when you exit Opera.
@edmarcio At the moment you should have several Opera portables. Or one Opera portable and use the trick with changing the name of the profile directory that I wrote about here:
https://forums.opera.com/post/317560
But the downside is that you can only use one profile at a time.My proposals for changes in Opera (Google Document).
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edmarcio last edited by edmarcio
@leocg that is not necessary true... it is a feature to clean data after exit in private windows... the developer can disable that if they want.
You guys are taking private window example too literal... devs needs just to develop Workspace to work like private widowns without clean up the cache/cookies on exit.
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edmarcio last edited by edmarcio
@jojo0587 that is not pratical in any way so that is why we are asking for Workspace have sperated sessions by itself using the same profile.
Do you understand that the ideia of feature request is about something that can't be done with the actual software and the developer have to work to add that new feature?
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jojo0587 last edited by
@edmarcio said in Workspaces as separate sessions:
that is not pratical in any way so that is why we are asking for Workspace have sperated sessions by itself using the same profile.
Apparently, I'm not the only one who thinks that workspaces were created so that the user could sort the cards thematically. And it makes no sense to push partial functionality of profiles into this feature.
Want to have actual separate cookie sessions? Wait for real profiles to be added to Opera.
My proposals for changes in Opera (Google Document).
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rodrigocipriani last edited by
@leocg, that's weird. Workspace is/was a tab group that now is Workspaces. It seems like it's tab groups with new clothes. I believe that this comment was probably a misunderstanding.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@rodrigocipriani Workspaces are a way to organize windows and tabs by theme, by subject.
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jojo0587 last edited by
@leocg said in Workspaces as separate sessions:
Also I don't know if Chromium allows to have multiple isolated sessions.
It allows because a certain browser running on Chromium has profiles for a long time. And yes, you can even run several profiles at once.
My proposals for changes in Opera (Google Document).
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rodrigocipriani last edited by
I believe that what the majority here is saying is that workspace is a nice feature, and everyone loves it, but it would be a lot more useful if you could choose to start a new workspace by sharing the session or using a new one.
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
Workspaces are just a visual separation of tabs. They're still all on the main tab bar behind the scenes.
Chromium doesn't provide a way for a single tab (or a group of tabs) to have its own cache, cookies, history and session etc., so this wish/suggestion isn't practically possible in Opera. So, this suggestion is almost a no-go from the start.
However, it might be possible to implement this if Opera would spend the huge amount of time and resources to implement the behavior on top of Chromium and patch in the changes every time Opera is built. It's a long shot though. Also, in this case, Opera would have to maintain this huge patch and fix it every time Chromium changes something and breaks it.
A more realistic change would be to get Chromium to provide an extension API to do this so that Opera could implement this with a component extension.
This wish/suggestion would still be cool for those that want it though. It's just not a simple thing to have.
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intrepidpursuit last edited by
@rodrigocipriani Exactly. Why someone would be so against adding a feature that wouldn't affect existing features is beyond me.
Terminology might be causing some confusion and could for users I guess. This could be implemented as a new feature called "Sessions" or something with similar accessibility from the sidebar.
I use one computer for work and personal, being able quickly switch between sessions or easily have separate windows with different accounts (not necessarily profiles) logged in would be a game changer. Right now I just have to use a different browser for each.
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rodrigocipriani last edited by
@intrepidpursuit Yeah, that's it!
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A Former User last edited by A Former User
@edmarcio For Firefox: addon Container Tab Groups with containers group; labels; etc.
With this addon, you do not need to have the Firefox Container Groups addon installed
