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    • l33t4opera
      l33t4opera last edited by leocg

      New update - Opera developer 58.0.3134.0 ;-)
      The change log, and the announcement.
       
      "With this build we have a cool update to the news delivery mechanism for our Russian users: we have now integrated Yandex Zen into our start page, replacing our previous mechanism. Yandex Zen is a smart, personal news recommendation service. What this means for our Russian users is that they will get better news, chosen based on their preferences and browsing history. Yandex Zen uses machine-learning technology and automatically adjusts to your news preferences. You can find more information about it here. Yandex Zen has been switched on only in Russia"
       
       
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      • loup001
        loup001 @l33t4opera last edited by

        @l33t4opera

        Hi !

        I must be living on my own planet here, but yandex ... really.

        Princeton study

        Want to get it

        After facebook problems with analytica ... really ?

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        • rudrick
          rudrick last edited by

          Hmm. There's some word on the street that Opera has shifted focus to mobile browsers - the desktop application only getting bare minimum. Is desktop still strongest commitment? And what are long time plans/goals for Opera desktop application?

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          • leocg
            leocg Moderator Volunteer @rudrick last edited by

            I believe both desktop and mobile have the same commitment as always.

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            • l33t4opera
              l33t4opera @loup001 last edited by

              Hi @loup001, it looks like the Opera wanted to improve the news feature, to deliver more accurate, depended on activities of the users news sources. Since Zen uses machine learning technology, which "analyzes what you read on the internet and adjusts the content of your recommendations feed to suit your interests", so it could prove to be helpful on that matter.

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              • loup001
                loup001 @l33t4opera last edited by

                @l33t4opera

                Thank's for reply.

                I understoud the benefit of this technology.
                I was/am concern about the "spying/profiling" of users from a provider that did not address the discovery from princeton.
                Inclusion of this service in opera can be seen as an andorsement of such behavior.

                Reputation is so hard to build.

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                • l33t4opera
                  l33t4opera last edited by

                  New update - Opera developer 58.0.3135.3 ;-)
                  The change log, and the announcement.

                  "Today’s update contains few fixes:
                  - Disappearing page content, after using Snapshot tool.
                  - Invisible bookmark bar drop indicator."

                  ☕   🖖   🍺

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                  • l33t4opera
                    l33t4opera @loup001 last edited by

                    Hi @loup001, you're welcome. In case, that someone would really like to spy on users using web browsers, there are many other ways to do so. I would rather not bother myself too much with that.

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                    • A Former User
                      A Former User @loup001 last edited by

                      @loup001 Yeah... I wondered the same thing.

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                      • A Former User
                        A Former User @l33t4opera last edited by

                        @l33t4opera said in New Opera developer 58:

                        Hi @loup001, you're welcome. In case, that someone would really like to spy on users using web browsers, there are many other ways to do so. I would rather not bother myself too much with that.

                        If there are "many other ways to spy on users", should we be concerned? It's bad enough that a Chinese consortium now owns the browser and I think that many of us are using it with both hesitation and some concern. Your comment did not reassure me.

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                        • sgunhouse
                          sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                          Do you use Facebook? Every time you see a Like button, they are spying on you. Google spies on everyone, etc. I'm sure you know this.

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                          • l33t4opera
                            l33t4opera @Guest last edited by l33t4opera

                            Hi @coffeelover, my reply to loup001 is intended to make him aware of the facts, not to make anyone concerned about it, or reassured.

                            I don't want to conduct too much off-topic conversation in this thread, so I will only provide you few examples of articles focusing on it:
                            1. How to monitor your employees' PCs without going too far,
                            2. Which browser is better for privacy?,
                            3. Google Chrome caught discreetly scanning all files on your PC,
                            4. GPU side channel attacks can enable spying on web activity, password stealing.
                            After you read it, and will still have a feeling, that you want to discus it more deeply, please start a new thread for that purpose, and when I see, that I can give you any helpful reply, I will.

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                            • loup001
                              loup001 @l33t4opera last edited by

                              @l33t4opera

                              Thank's again for your time and concern. 👍

                              lol when i tried to your link: Google Chrome caught discreetly scanning all files on your PC from sputniknews ...
                              This is the alarm i get from my firewall/router

                              11/14/2018 14:56:20 TCP FIN Scan 77.111.246.18, 443->> 192.168.2.2, 39132 (from WAN Inbound)
                              11/14/2018 14:56:20 TCP FIN Scan 77.111.246.18, 443->> xx.xx.xx.xxx, 39128 (from WAN Inbound)
                              11/14/2018 14:56:20 Vecna Scan 77.111.246.18, 443->> xx.xx.xx.xxx, 39072 (from WAN Inbound)

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                              • leocg
                                leocg Moderator Volunteer @loup001 last edited by

                                Seems a regular connection between Opera's VPN and your computer/router.

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                                • A Former User
                                  A Former User @sgunhouse last edited by

                                  @sgunhouse Hello, Steve. I don't use Facebook on a regular basis (i.e. only for contact to companies should issues arise with their products). I don't bother with likes and so forth. Fact is, I don't trust Zuckerberg. I don't use Google (DuckDuckGo instead). I know what you are driving at (i.e. spying is built into the internet,,, period). I try to minimize it as much as possible (and convenient). Some things make me a little more nervous than others which I've already mentioned. Thanks for your input.

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                                  • A Former User
                                    A Former User @l33t4opera last edited by

                                    @l33t4opera Thank you for the links. I noted that the link to which browser is better for privacy is nearly five years old so I have to wonder about its relevance.

                                    I found this quote in the article to be interesting: "Well, your browser is probably sending some information back to the company that created it, but that information is explicitly used to support the features you have turned on. As long as you trust the developer behind your favorite browser, this isn't an issue." So... as long as I trust the developer behind my browser, this isn't an issue. And therein lies the problem for me and I know for many others.

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                                    • loup001
                                      loup001 @leocg last edited by

                                      @leocg

                                      You could be wright.

                                      The strange think is it started about 2 - 3 months ago, and only when accessing certains new sites ...
                                      Anyway those are bening since my firewall/router is blocking those external requests, i am more concern by those not reported.

                                      I guess it's time to install firejail on my system.

                                      Thank's for your reply !

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                                      • l33t4opera
                                        l33t4opera @loup001 last edited by

                                        Hi @loup001, are you sure it happens only, when you access that site, and it doesn't occur for other websites? In some cases, it can be misinterpretation (false-positive) of the firewall/router, or simply defective packets, e.g. from already closed session. This may happen usually, when you use P2P software, and many connections are in use at the same time.

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                                        • l33t4opera
                                          l33t4opera @Guest last edited by

                                          Hi @coffeelover, no problem;-) it seems, that most of it is still relevant and true. Yes, you are right, it's near always a matter of trust for several reasons. As I wrote it already, there are many other third parties for which your personal data are more interesting and valuable, than for Opera, or others.

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                                          • loup001
                                            loup001 @l33t4opera last edited by

                                            @l33t4opera

                                            Hi, you asked

                                            @l33t4opera said in New Opera developer 58:

                                            are you sure it happens only, when you access that site, and it doesn't occur for other websites?

                                            In my previous post i wrote

                                            @loup001 said in New Opera developer 58:

                                            The strange think is it started about 2 - 3 months ago, and only when accessing certains new sites ...

                                            To name them, msn, huffington post.

                                            For sputniknews, that was the very first time this site was accessed from my network. I noticed that something was wrong, after several seconds of the spinning wheel icon running on tab with nothing showing on page.
                                            Furthermore the ip 77.111.246.18 was not an address assign to any of my vpn locations.

                                            @l33t4opera said in New Opera developer 58:
                                            In some cases, it can be misinterpretation (false-positive) of the firewall/router, or simply defective packets, e.g. from already closed session. This may happen usually, when you use P2P software, and many connections are in use at the same time.

                                            I do have a p2p software that i use only to download linux installers and nothing else. I have not used that software for the last year.
                                            My router/firewall is program to block all upd request from wan to lan.

                                            Thank's !

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