Opera 55. Getting rid of that ugly CSD
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gregurbi last edited by
Opera is worse and worse every day. It doesn't make sense to use it anymore.
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A Former User last edited by
I am using Kubuntu 16.04, after Opera update to the 55.x, I cannot normally use developer tools anymore. I am working with two monitors and I am always detaching developer tools so developer tools could be on one screen and webpage on another.
After detaching developer tools (to be in a seperate window) everything is fine, but when you are trying to move seperated window somewhere it loses title bar (see attached image). It's super annoying and it's hard to work with a bug like this.
P.S. After update to the 55.0.2994.44 the bug is still there.
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A Former User last edited by
@pugamapish I have an extension that opens a secondary window and I've found I can close it by hitting "Escape" twice.
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A Former User last edited by
New Opera user here. I think I've only had two updates to Opera so far, but I too despise the hideous new titlebar. If the devs want to include this as an option that's fine, but give us a setting so that we can choose between using native titlebars/windows and the new ugly.
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A Former User last edited by
I will leave Opera, and go back to Firefox waiting for the bug to be fixed.
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A Former User last edited by
@anotheroperafan You're right, it doesn't look good, but it does look better and I have some window functionality now. I can "roll-up" (shade) my Opera windows and use the "keep above" feature. I did set up a custom titlebar to match the colors of Opera's dark theme so it doesn't look quite as bad.
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minho last edited byclient side window decoration has some problems in KDE Plasma
desktop environment:
window is borderless
window can not be resized by dragging its bordersTherefore, give us an option to enable server side window decoration on linux please.
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gleycon last edited by
Por favor voltem com a "Barra de Título" eu utilizo o Linux Mint com KDE, e o Opera descaracterizou completamente o sistema, ficou péssimo não ter a a janela, e mesmo configurando no sistema para voltar com as janelas, ela fica toda bugada.
Corrija essa atualização,
POR FAVOR, NÃO DESAPONTE OS USUÁRIOS LINUX, COM ESSA JANELA ESTILO WINDOWS.
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A Former User last edited by A Former User
Spamming my thread just to mention that opera 56 just reached stable and that csd is still there (and no way to disable it yet). Pity
On the upside though, for me at least, they put a toggle in the settings for "Scroll to the top of the page by clicking the active tab"! God knows how many times I accidentally clicked a tab and opera scrolled to it's top all these months since the feature became available.
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A Former User last edited by
I agree with cirio above - I'll downgrade back to 54.0.2952.71 until these dev decide to give us our options back. If there's one thing I can't stand, it's someone else deciding what I have to settle for. I really like Opera... but, I'm not married to it. If we can't get rid of that ungodly ugly win10 look, I'm thru with Opera.
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bennyfletch last edited by
I too am downgrading to 54 until one of two things happen. Opera wises up and allows us to choose the window manger theme (ie give us the option to have Opera look like all other windows, especially in Linux + KDE) or I make the time to migrate all my bookmarks to Firefox.
I have used Opera for the past decade and I really love it, but Opera is now utterly hideous on Linux. Thank the heavens macOS forces Opera to obey its theming or I would migrating my bookmarks instead of posting this message.
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apathy last edited by apathy
@ivarzlv said in Opera 55. Getting rid of that ugly CSD:
I am using Kubuntu 16.04, after Opera update to the 55.x, I cannot normally use developer tools anymore. I am working with two monitors and I am always detaching developer tools so developer tools could be on one screen and webpage on another.
After detaching developer tools (to be in a seperate window) everything is fine, but when you are trying to move seperated window somewhere it loses title bar (see attached image). It's super annoying and it's hard to work with a bug like this.
P.S. After update to the 55.0.2994.44 the bug is still there.
I have the same problem on Opera 56.0.3051.31 in Kubuntu 18.04... waiting for a fix on this important issue!
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rexfx last edited by rexfx
The problem is not the CSD itself, the problems are the CSD that don't uses GTK buttons, and the dialog windows, like DevTool that don't need the CSD. So, the developers should add an option to enable or disable the CSD, if it is enable, it should apply only for main windows but not the dialog ones, and use GTK buttons; if disable, simply do not show the button on the site of taskbar and show the titlebar on all windows.
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A Former User last edited by
@rexfx said in Opera 55. Getting rid of that ugly CSD:
The problem is not the CSD itself, the problems are the CSD that don't uses GTK buttons,
Thats what csd is! The client (= app) desides to use its own buttons and frame to draw itself and ignore what the server (= xorg or wayland + window manager) offer for the job (= drawing of the title bar, borders and icons for minimize/maximize/restore/close)
A typical example of csd usage, excluding chrome and chromium, is the whole of gnome apps (nautilus, file-roller, gedit, etc) which use their own csd even when they are not run under gnome. They also do not offer a way to disable csd.
Luckily, there is a patch for those
https://github.com/PCMan/gtk3-nocsd -
galaqxus87 last edited by
Hello, maybe on this opera version already exist any app, add on, extension or sth to come back back/forward button with spacebar controlling?
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alamyliu last edited by
The original opera developers had moved to Vivaldi, it provides a check box in settings to use System's Frame/Theme that could bring back the Title Bar & Border.
Looks like the Opera Developers are Windoz heads to favor Windoz users' requests with no reason (https://autohotkey.com/board/topic/66060-opera-11-remove-titlebar-but-keep-taskbar/)
And it even removed the option to bring back System's setting like Vivaldi does. (So you have to stay with Windoz).
The intension (Windoz like UI, no response to Linux Users' requests) is so obvious. And it's your choice to stay with it.Good luck!
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A Former User last edited by A Former User
For me, the vivaldi devs have done a more fundamental mistake than the csd: they made an electron based app. As far as I am concerned, it is my choise to not use any electron-based bs.
Also, the screenshots on the other thread you mention do not have any sort of csd, just a hidden title bar and they were made 8 YEARS ago, back when opera was presto based and could allow almost any change to its ui.
