<![CDATA[Opera 55. Getting rid of that ugly CSD]]>Goodmorning everyone.

I wanted my first thread here to include problems that I have been facing since I first switched to chromium based opera, but the upgrade to opera 55 brought csd (= cliend side decorations), and it is so ugly that I have to make a thread about it.

Because 1 picture is worth 1000 words, let me post some pictures first so as to let you know how things look on my system at least

Opera 55

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Chromium 68

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Firefox 61

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I think you can tell the difference between that gorgeous, minimalistic numix theme I have for my window manager and that fat, ugly, w10-like csd of opera which was introduced on v55.
So, can csd be disabled by some flag or some command line switch?

Debian testing x64 and openbox as window manager. Firefox and chromium are both set to "use the system title bar and borders".

]]>https://forums.opera.com/topic/28146/opera-55-getting-rid-of-that-ugly-csdRSS for NodeWed, 20 May 2026 21:02:32 GMTFri, 17 Aug 2018 08:39:10 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Opera 55. Getting rid of that ugly CSD on Fri, 29 Mar 2019 18:38:36 GMT]]>For me, the vivaldi devs have done a more fundamental mistake than the csd: they made an electron based app. As far as I am concerned, it is my choise to not use any electron-based bs.

Also, the screenshots on the other thread you mention do not have any sort of csd, just a hidden title bar and they were made 8 YEARS ago, back when opera was presto based and could allow almost any change to its ui.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/166748https://forums.opera.com/post/166748Fri, 29 Mar 2019 18:38:36 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opera 55. Getting rid of that ugly CSD on Fri, 29 Mar 2019 18:28:05 GMT]]>The original opera developers had moved to Vivaldi, it provides a check box in settings to use System's Frame/Theme that could bring back the Title Bar & Border.

Looks like the Opera Developers are Windoz heads to favor Windoz users' requests with no reason (https://autohotkey.com/board/topic/66060-opera-11-remove-titlebar-but-keep-taskbar/)
And it even removed the option to bring back System's setting like Vivaldi does. (So you have to stay with Windoz).
The intension (Windoz like UI, no response to Linux Users' requests) is so obvious. And it's your choice to stay with it.

Good luck!

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/166747https://forums.opera.com/post/166747Fri, 29 Mar 2019 18:28:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opera 55. Getting rid of that ugly CSD on Wed, 28 Nov 2018 23:40:42 GMT]]>Hello, maybe on this opera version already exist any app, add on, extension or sth to come back back/forward button with spacebar controlling?

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/159828https://forums.opera.com/post/159828Wed, 28 Nov 2018 23:40:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opera 55. Getting rid of that ugly CSD on Thu, 22 Nov 2018 09:59:40 GMT]]>@rexfx said in Opera 55. Getting rid of that ugly CSD:

The problem is not the CSD itself, the problems are the CSD that don't uses GTK buttons,

Thats what csd is! The client (= app) desides to use its own buttons and frame to draw itself and ignore what the server (= xorg or wayland + window manager) offer for the job (= drawing of the title bar, borders and icons for minimize/maximize/restore/close)

A typical example of csd usage, excluding chrome and chromium, is the whole of gnome apps (nautilus, file-roller, gedit, etc) which use their own csd even when they are not run under gnome. They also do not offer a way to disable csd.
Luckily, there is a patch for those
https://github.com/PCMan/gtk3-nocsd

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/159363https://forums.opera.com/post/159363Thu, 22 Nov 2018 09:59:40 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opera 55. Getting rid of that ugly CSD on Thu, 22 Nov 2018 02:25:13 GMT]]>The problem is not the CSD itself, the problems are the CSD that don't uses GTK buttons, and the dialog windows, like DevTool that don't need the CSD. So, the developers should add an option to enable or disable the CSD, if it is enable, it should apply only for main windows but not the dialog ones, and use GTK buttons; if disable, simply do not show the button on the site of taskbar and show the titlebar on all windows.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/159353https://forums.opera.com/post/159353Thu, 22 Nov 2018 02:25:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opera 55. Getting rid of that ugly CSD on Fri, 09 Nov 2018 12:34:20 GMT]]>@ivarzlv said in Opera 55. Getting rid of that ugly CSD:

I am using Kubuntu 16.04, after Opera update to the 55.x, I cannot normally use developer tools anymore. I am working with two monitors and I am always detaching developer tools so developer tools could be on one screen and webpage on another.

After detaching developer tools (to be in a seperate window) everything is fine, but when you are trying to move seperated window somewhere it loses title bar (see attached image). It's super annoying and it's hard to work with a bug like this.

P.S. After update to the 55.0.2994.44 the bug is still there. 😞

alt text

I have the same problem on Opera 56.0.3051.31 in Kubuntu 18.04... waiting for a fix on this important issue!

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/158379https://forums.opera.com/post/158379Fri, 09 Nov 2018 12:34:20 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opera 55. Getting rid of that ugly CSD on Sun, 07 Oct 2018 05:27:03 GMT]]>I too am downgrading to 54 until one of two things happen. Opera wises up and allows us to choose the window manger theme (ie give us the option to have Opera look like all other windows, especially in Linux + KDE) or I make the time to migrate all my bookmarks to Firefox.

I have used Opera for the past decade and I really love it, but Opera is now utterly hideous on Linux. Thank the heavens macOS forces Opera to obey its theming or I would migrating my bookmarks instead of posting this message.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/156476https://forums.opera.com/post/156476Sun, 07 Oct 2018 05:27:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opera 55. Getting rid of that ugly CSD on Thu, 27 Sep 2018 02:08:06 GMT]]>I agree with cirio above - I'll downgrade back to 54.0.2952.71 until these dev decide to give us our options back. If there's one thing I can't stand, it's someone else deciding what I have to settle for. I really like Opera... but, I'm not married to it. If we can't get rid of that ungodly ugly win10 look, I'm thru with Opera.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/155690https://forums.opera.com/post/155690Thu, 27 Sep 2018 02:08:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opera 55. Getting rid of that ugly CSD on Tue, 25 Sep 2018 16:18:06 GMT]]>Spamming my thread just to mention that opera 56 just reached stable and that csd is still there (and no way to disable it yet). Pity 😞

On the upside though, for me at least, they put a toggle in the settings for "Scroll to the top of the page by clicking the active tab"! God knows how many times I accidentally clicked a tab and opera scrolled to it's top all these months since the feature became available.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/155571https://forums.opera.com/post/155571Tue, 25 Sep 2018 16:18:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opera 55. Getting rid of that ugly CSD on Tue, 18 Sep 2018 01:17:20 GMT]]>This forum is in English.Also, don't shout.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/155075https://forums.opera.com/post/155075Tue, 18 Sep 2018 01:17:20 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opera 55. Getting rid of that ugly CSD on Mon, 17 Sep 2018 23:44:54 GMT]]>Por favor voltem com a "Barra de Título" eu utilizo o Linux Mint com KDE, e o Opera descaracterizou completamente o sistema, ficou péssimo não ter a a janela, e mesmo configurando no sistema para voltar com as janelas, ela fica toda bugada.

Corrija essa atualização,

POR FAVOR, NÃO DESAPONTE OS USUÁRIOS LINUX, COM ESSA JANELA ESTILO WINDOWS.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/155072https://forums.opera.com/post/155072Mon, 17 Sep 2018 23:44:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opera 55. Getting rid of that ugly CSD on Thu, 06 Sep 2018 21:43:35 GMT]]>@minho Yes

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/154212https://forums.opera.com/post/154212Thu, 06 Sep 2018 21:43:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opera 55. Getting rid of that ugly CSD on Thu, 06 Sep 2018 14:57:43 GMT]]>client side window decoration has some problems in KDE Plasma
desktop environment:
window is borderless
window can not be resized by dragging its borders

Therefore, give us an option to enable server side window decoration on linux please.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/154185https://forums.opera.com/post/154185Thu, 06 Sep 2018 14:57:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opera 55. Getting rid of that ugly CSD on Tue, 04 Sep 2018 04:46:10 GMT]]>@anotheroperafan You're right, it doesn't look good, but it does look better and I have some window functionality now. I can "roll-up" (shade) my Opera windows and use the "keep above" feature. I did set up a custom titlebar to match the colors of Opera's dark theme so it doesn't look quite as bad.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/153903https://forums.opera.com/post/153903Tue, 04 Sep 2018 04:46:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opera 55. Getting rid of that ugly CSD on Sat, 25 Aug 2018 07:54:53 GMT]]>I will leave Opera, and go back to Firefox waiting for the bug to be fixed.
JP

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/153300https://forums.opera.com/post/153300Sat, 25 Aug 2018 07:54:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opera 55. Getting rid of that ugly CSD on Fri, 24 Aug 2018 18:59:35 GMT]]>New Opera user here. I think I've only had two updates to Opera so far, but I too despise the hideous new titlebar. If the devs want to include this as an option that's fine, but give us a setting so that we can choose between using native titlebars/windows and the new ugly.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/153280https://forums.opera.com/post/153280Fri, 24 Aug 2018 18:59:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opera 55. Getting rid of that ugly CSD on Fri, 24 Aug 2018 18:53:52 GMT]]>@pugamapish I have an extension that opens a secondary window and I've found I can close it by hitting "Escape" twice.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/153279https://forums.opera.com/post/153279Fri, 24 Aug 2018 18:53:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opera 55. Getting rid of that ugly CSD on Fri, 24 Aug 2018 09:19:57 GMT]]>I am using Kubuntu 16.04, after Opera update to the 55.x, I cannot normally use developer tools anymore. I am working with two monitors and I am always detaching developer tools so developer tools could be on one screen and webpage on another.

After detaching developer tools (to be in a seperate window) everything is fine, but when you are trying to move seperated window somewhere it loses title bar (see attached image). It's super annoying and it's hard to work with a bug like this.

P.S. After update to the 55.0.2994.44 the bug is still there. 😞

alt text

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/153267https://forums.opera.com/post/153267Fri, 24 Aug 2018 09:19:57 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opera 55. Getting rid of that ugly CSD on Thu, 23 Aug 2018 17:49:04 GMT]]>Opera is worse and worse every day. It doesn't make sense to use it anymore.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/153214https://forums.opera.com/post/153214Thu, 23 Aug 2018 17:49:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opera 55. Getting rid of that ugly CSD on Thu, 23 Aug 2018 14:00:24 GMT]]>Opera 55 was updated to 55.0.2994.44 a few minutes ago and the csd problem is still there. So far, it seems the devs are ignoring our requests... 😞

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/153199https://forums.opera.com/post/153199Thu, 23 Aug 2018 14:00:24 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opera 55. Getting rid of that ugly CSD on Thu, 23 Aug 2018 07:13:48 GMT]]>@cirio Yeah, mine has no O menu.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/153174https://forums.opera.com/post/153174Thu, 23 Aug 2018 07:13:48 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opera 55. Getting rid of that ugly CSD on Wed, 22 Aug 2018 18:36:55 GMT]]>For those using KDE, u can go to System Settings -> Window management -> Window Rules. And add there a rule for the whole class ("Opera Opera") with the "No title bar and frame" set to "Force" and "No". But this still looks ugly and doesn't solve the problem with forcing csd and not providing an option to disable/enable it.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/153127https://forums.opera.com/post/153127Wed, 22 Aug 2018 18:36:55 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opera 55. Getting rid of that ugly CSD on Wed, 22 Aug 2018 06:17:46 GMT]]>Looks like one of those pop-up windows minus the title bar and borders. Right-click on a link and choose Open in New Window to get a regular window, then close the pop-up.

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/153099https://forums.opera.com/post/153099Wed, 22 Aug 2018 06:17:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opera 55. Getting rid of that ugly CSD on Wed, 22 Aug 2018 04:43:07 GMT]]>@pugamapish
Excluding the csd, you also seem to be missing the o-menu, the tab bar, evan the back/forward/etc buttons!

]]>https://forums.opera.com/post/153093https://forums.opera.com/post/153093Wed, 22 Aug 2018 04:43:07 GMT