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  • First off we have the childish use of the word Chopera. There is NO browser by such a moniker

    Sure there is, it's an abbreviated form of saying "Chromium-based Opera". Just like, from now on, I'll refer to Presto-based Opera as "PrOpera". Seems fitting, somehow.

  • There is no Chopera. Sorry to have to continue to correct the juvenile posters who continue to whine in these forums.

    Back on topic: Opera 12.17 is simply a security fix and nothing more. There will be no further development of Opera Presto. Deal with it.

  • It's becoming increasingly tiresome to try and respond respectfully to these Opera bashers. First off we have the childish use of the word Chopera. There is NO browser by such a moniker other than your fevered minds so please... DEAL with the real world and not one of your own making. Secondly, you can hold on to Opera Presto for the foreseeable future now that the Opera team have updated the security so be happy. Go browse to your hearts' content and be happy. Why hang about here looking for every opportunity to make trouble? Or is this what can be expected of the so-called power-users: that they are essentially troublemakers? You like your Opera Presto which comes complete with everything like a Swiss Army knife and without the need for any extensions. Good for you. Be happy, I know I am with Opera 20. I apply only those extensions that I need and that suits me just fine. I enjoy its speed. I enjoy its compatibility. I enjoy the Stash, Speed Dial and Discover features. I enjoy the FACT that development will continue whereas that is not the case with the former browser which is now dead as far as future development is concerned. I enjoy the clean look of the browser. All in all... Opera has done a marvelous job in the past year and I look forward with anticipation to the coming year. The only dismal spot in this is the continued whining and crying from the Presto crowd.

    Some of us enjoy or used to enjoy Opera in the same way as you enjoy Chromepera. For some of us it is a big loss, because web is a big part of our real world. If you don't understand that, you probably can go and use Chrome just the same as IE.

  • For some of us it is a big loss, because web is a big part of our real world.

    Yes, but mourning, ranting and stranges wishes does not get the old world back. Its gone.

    Otherwize you have to use such browser:

  • It would be useful if Opera would publish a changelog for 12.17

    Probably when it is officialy released.

    it appears 12.16 also has never had a changelog published yet

    http://www.opera.com/docs/changelogs/unified/1216/

    Thank you. I've been looking for that for some time... but I never tried the */unified path.

  • There is no Chopera. Sorry to have to continue to correct the juvenile posters who continue to whine in these forums.

    Yes, because you've shown yourself to be the very image of maturity and sensibility....we should all follow your example.

  • If you wish to follow my lead, by all means don't let me stop you (although I'm not insisting upon it... LOL). But you SHOULD try and deal with the real world in your posts and that includes calling the browser what it IS and not what you "think" it might be or "should" be. To that end, there is an Opera Presto version and there is a Blink version. There is no Chopera or Chropera version... only in the minds of a few who are trolling and THAT is juvenile.

  • Sounds like a War, who's winning ?

  • The war has been won, colderwinters; but the individual battles and skirmishes sadly continue. I could choose to walk away from the insistence of some of these posters and let them have the day and in so doing avoid a battle entirely and while peace would prevail misunderstanding would carry the day. For the simple reason that I don't want that to occur, I choose to call a spade a spade (i.e. the browser by its real name) knowing it will incur their wrath. My salvation is in knowing that ultimately peace and understanding will ensue for the simple reason that I stated earlier: the war has already been won; they just haven't accepted it yet.

  • Hmm, I like this "Chopera" name, it's appropriate.

    I'm one of the people who thinks Opera Next stinks.

    I see virtually nothing of use with it that anything else does not have, and they removed 85% of the things that made Opera wonderful.

    Personally I think if they wanted a simple toy browser for simple toy people, they should have kept all the original features internally but defaulted the browser to "stupid mode", where it looks just like the new one.

    If you needed a REAL browser, you could click a discreet button, whereupon you would be presented with a math test: to add 2 + 2. If you answered the correct answer of "4", you get to use the traditional features. 🙂

    Opera 12 has the BEST bookmark feature of any browser. Opera whateveritisthisweek has the WORST bookmark functionality of any browser.

    You want me to put thousands of bookmarks in "speed dials"??? AH HAH AHAHAHA AHHAHAHA!!

    And that's just for starters.

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  • So, do we get email and newsgroups in Chrome Opera yet?

  • Oh and how do you subscribe to a forum thread? This whole thing has ben drastically Mac-ified (simplified) since I was last here, I can't see anything.

  • So, do we get email and newsgroups in Chrome Opera yet?

    They chopped off M2 and called it a separate application, Opera Mail.

    Oh and how do you subscribe to a forum thread? This whole thing has ben drastically Mac-ified (simplified) since I was last here, I can't see anything.

    Click on the star next to the thread's title.

  • They should return full-time to working on 12.xx because everything above it is garbage and not real Opera.

  • @misteromar They should return full-time to working on 12.xx because everything above it is garbage and not real Opera.

    They're a business. They can lose money. They can go bankrupt. If they lose money with Opera 12, will you chip in, raise a kitty, and help them out? It's so good of you to tell them what they ought to do,

    Opera 20 is in my opinion a very FINE product. I'd be horrified if they went back to Opera 12 and oudated Presto,

  • They should return full-time to working on 12.xx because everything above it is garbage and not real Opera.

    Don't be so silly. Deal in the real world. Opera 20 is their browser of choice AND it is the future whether you like it or not. And if you (and some other whiners here on the forum) don't like it, then you have the choice of using the older version OR finding another browser.

  • I started my own thread about 12.17 AFTER SEARCHING using the phrase 12.17, which found NO RESULTS, and I think it's extremely rude of you to close my thread without any kind of warning.

    What kind of warning did you expect? (Rhetorical!).
    It was a duplicate. I pointed you towards this thread. End of story.

    (And yeah, obviously searching for numbers isn't working in this forum...)

  • @christoph142

    Why every security update(with exception of 12.17 for obvious reasons) after 12.14 bringed new problems with web sites compatibility through the new rendering flaws? Does quality control still exist? Or it just unneeded for dying Presto and it's not in your company's priority anymore?

  • @stng: I'm not working for Opera ASA so I'm not qualified to answer this question.
    I'm 100% sure though that any regressions are not being introduced on purpose.