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    • jito463
      jito463 last edited by

      There is no Chopera. Sorry to have to continue to correct the juvenile posters who continue to whine in these forums.

      Yes, because you've shown yourself to be the very image of maturity and sensibility....we should all follow your example.

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      • Deleted User
        Deleted User last edited by

        If you wish to follow my lead, by all means don't let me stop you (although I'm not insisting upon it... LOL). But you SHOULD try and deal with the real world in your posts and that includes calling the browser what it IS and not what you "think" it might be or "should" be. To that end, there is an Opera Presto version and there is a Blink version. There is no Chopera or Chropera version... only in the minds of a few who are trolling and THAT is juvenile.

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        • colderwinters
          colderwinters last edited by

          Sounds like a War, who's winning ?

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          • Deleted User
            Deleted User last edited by

            The war has been won, colderwinters; but the individual battles and skirmishes sadly continue. I could choose to walk away from the insistence of some of these posters and let them have the day and in so doing avoid a battle entirely and while peace would prevail misunderstanding would carry the day. For the simple reason that I don't want that to occur, I choose to call a spade a spade (i.e. the browser by its real name) knowing it will incur their wrath. My salvation is in knowing that ultimately peace and understanding will ensue for the simple reason that I stated earlier: the war has already been won; they just haven't accepted it yet.

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            • pjk0
              pjk0 last edited by

              Hmm, I like this "Chopera" name, it's appropriate.

              I'm one of the people who thinks Opera Next stinks.

              I see virtually nothing of use with it that anything else does not have, and they removed 85% of the things that made Opera wonderful.

              Personally I think if they wanted a simple toy browser for simple toy people, they should have kept all the original features internally but defaulted the browser to "stupid mode", where it looks just like the new one.

              If you needed a REAL browser, you could click a discreet button, whereupon you would be presented with a math test: to add 2 + 2. If you answered the correct answer of "4", you get to use the traditional features. 🙂

              Opera 12 has the BEST bookmark feature of any browser. Opera whateveritisthisweek has the WORST bookmark functionality of any browser.

              You want me to put thousands of bookmarks in "speed dials"??? AH HAH AHAHAHA AHHAHAHA!!

              And that's just for starters.

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              • hucker
                hucker last edited by

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                • hucker
                  hucker last edited by

                  So, do we get email and newsgroups in Chrome Opera yet?

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                  • hucker
                    hucker last edited by

                    Oh and how do you subscribe to a forum thread? This whole thing has ben drastically Mac-ified (simplified) since I was last here, I can't see anything.

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                    • d1sasterp1ece
                      d1sasterp1ece last edited by

                      So, do we get email and newsgroups in Chrome Opera yet?

                      They chopped off M2 and called it a separate application, Opera Mail.

                      Oh and how do you subscribe to a forum thread? This whole thing has ben drastically Mac-ified (simplified) since I was last here, I can't see anything.

                      Click on the star next to the thread's title.

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                      • Deleted User
                        Deleted User last edited by

                        They should return full-time to working on 12.xx because everything above it is garbage and not real Opera.

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                        • lem729
                          lem729 last edited by

                          @misteromar They should return full-time to working on 12.xx because everything above it is garbage and not real Opera.

                          They're a business. They can lose money. They can go bankrupt. If they lose money with Opera 12, will you chip in, raise a kitty, and help them out? It's so good of you to tell them what they ought to do,

                          Opera 20 is in my opinion a very FINE product. I'd be horrified if they went back to Opera 12 and oudated Presto,

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                          • Deleted User
                            Deleted User last edited by

                            They should return full-time to working on 12.xx because everything above it is garbage and not real Opera.

                            Don't be so silly. Deal in the real world. Opera 20 is their browser of choice AND it is the future whether you like it or not. And if you (and some other whiners here on the forum) don't like it, then you have the choice of using the older version OR finding another browser.

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                            • christoph142
                              christoph142 last edited by

                              I started my own thread about 12.17 AFTER SEARCHING using the phrase 12.17, which found NO RESULTS, and I think it's extremely rude of you to close my thread without any kind of warning.

                              What kind of warning did you expect? (Rhetorical!).
                              It was a duplicate. I pointed you towards this thread. End of story.

                              (And yeah, obviously searching for numbers isn't working in this forum...)

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                              • stng
                                stng last edited by

                                @christoph142

                                Why every security update(with exception of 12.17 for obvious reasons) after 12.14 bringed new problems with web sites compatibility through the new rendering flaws? Does quality control still exist? Or it just unneeded for dying Presto and it's not in your company's priority anymore?

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                                • christoph142
                                  christoph142 last edited by

                                  @stng: I'm not working for Opera ASA so I'm not qualified to answer this question.
                                  I'm 100% sure though that any regressions are not being introduced on purpose.

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                                  • igorditerni
                                    igorditerni last edited by

                                    What about the Opera Mail autoupdater? It's not the same of Opera 12.xx and so affected by Heartbleed?

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                                    • Deleted User
                                      Deleted User last edited by

                                      @christoph142

                                      Why every security update(with exception of 12.17 for obvious reasons) after 12.14 bringed new problems with web sites compatibility through the new rendering flaws? Does quality control still exist? Or it just unneeded for dying Presto and it's not in your company's priority anymore?

                                      It seems evident that Opera Presto is becoming and will become increasingly incompatible with websites. Bear in mind that no development or correction of its engine will be made. All that Opera promised was a security update and they've provided that with 12.17. My guess is that this update will likely be the last. After all... what it the point? It's been 3/4 of a year since the new Opera was introduced. That is plenty of time for users to run in parallel to the old version and get used to its functions OR to download an alternate and migrate there. It's not the company's priority... period. I doubt it is even on their radar anymore.

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                                      • Deleted User
                                        Deleted User last edited by

                                        Thanks for the update.) Will stay with 12.17 4ever.)

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                                        • hucker
                                          hucker last edited by

                                          So, do we get email and newsgroups in Chrome Opera yet?

                                          They chopped off M2 and called it a separate application, Opera Mail.

                                          Thanks, I thought it had gone for good. Pity it won't be in the same window though. I'll stick with Opera 12 until it hates a lot of websites as the main reason I got Opera was to be a 3 in 1 (mail, web, newsgroups), then I'll have to go to Opera mail and some browser or other I guess. I really love the Opera mail client.

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                                          • hucker
                                            hucker last edited by

                                            I started my own thread about 12.17 AFTER SEARCHING using the phrase 12.17, which found NO RESULTS, and I think it's extremely rude of you to close my thread without any kind of warning.
                                            What kind of warning did you expect? (Rhetorical!).
                                            It was a duplicate. I pointed you towards this thread. End of story.
                                            (And yeah, obviously searching for numbers isn't working in this forum...)

                                            It was because you accused me of not searching first, which I did. Sorry, it's more other admins on other forums that object to posts that don't agree with their personal opinion, they give admins a bad name.

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