Opera using too much memory with lots of tabs opened and bookmarks
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sonthin1 last edited by
Hi,
Opera has become a total mess, even more so since the last update. I used to work with Opera because it was slim so that it was possible to have 40 or 50 tabs opened in the browser at the same time and because I extensively use bookmarking where I like(d) the many options.Now, with a bookmarks file of about 50 MB and about 45 tabs open I realize that Opera uses about 4 GB RAM alone (sometimes even 4,5 or more) of 8 GB RAM total. Every new bookmark slows down the browser for a while. Setting several bookmarks in row increases RAM usage even more, sometimes by 500 MB withing less than a second. Over time, RAM usage increases little by little even without any new tab opened.
Not long after, Opera breaks down (or Windows stops it because of a 'problem'). This usually occures when about 85 percent of total RAM is employed.
Even worse than that, relaunching Opera takes about 10 min until it is really completed (all tabs fully loaded etc.).
If compared to Chrome with also about 30 tabs opened or Mozilla at a comparable state I find Opera's performance unacceptable. Who does also have similar experiences? I don't think that 8 GB RAM on a notebook not even three years old is already outdated for secure and normal speed operation of a browser (especially when practically no other app is in operation).
Thanks.
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sonthin1 last edited by
Yes, I can do this, but here I simply see the amount of RAM used by every tab. I find this simply incredible. Even inactive tabs use up to 40 MB RAM! The entire logic of using RAM for the software as such as well as for every tab is already very annoying.
Worse than that: Setting one further bookmark results in the creation of a temporary bookmarks file, often even several of them if more than one bookmark is set which burdens RAM and swap file usage even more, especially if each of the files is of about 50 MB in size.
I might offend people here, but the simple truth is that Opera has totally betrayed its original vision (or mission) and developed into a resource feeding software. In that, it has turned into a crappy tool for beyond average use.
It seems that for JUST operating Opera only a little more professionally one needs: 5 GB of RAM plus a free swap file capacity of the same size (i.e., for Opera alone to yet including swap file capacity for Windows or other processes.). This means keeping free disc capacity of 5 GB for Opera alone.
I would really appreciate a comment on this by one of the responsible developers.
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sonthin1 last edited by
No, no particular tab uses extremely more RAM than the others. Hower, I detected that some use way more than even 40 MB. I don't consider this 'normal' even if other might say so.
For me, even with about 50 tabs opened, a browser is not supposed to use 4,5 or more GB of RAM. I have asked a couple of other persons, some of them professional IT experts, and everybody doubts that this is normal even for extensive use.
However, suggestions for deleting the cache etc. which I implemented did not help at all.
I don't know where the problem is.
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A Former User last edited by
- Extensions and plugins.
- Malware (one reported recently hogging resources).
- Certain sites or pages could employ hogging on your memory.
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- Rule out malware.
- Check if it's o'k in any other browser with the same configuration.
- Exclude all extensions and try a clean profile or even a separate installation with zero cookies. Or you could just clear all your cookies and local storage settings (disallow), with no extensions.
You should make sure your current browser installation's not messed up.
Does the browser close properly? Check your system task manager if there remain some
operaprocesses after closing.What else?
Make sure your computer is plugged in and the power socket is powered up.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
No, no particular tab uses extremely more RAM than the others. Hower, I detected that some use way more than even 40 MB.
I was talking about more of tabs using some hundreds of megabytes even being simple pages.
For me, even with about 50 tabs opened, a browser is not supposed to use 4,5 or more GB of RAM
It may depend on the pages content but usually it shouldn't happen.
I have asked a couple of other persons, some of them professional IT experts, and everybody doubts that this is normal even for extensive use.
Like I said, it may depend on the page content.
I don't know where the problem is.
If Opera's task manager didn't show you anything to start with, I guess it will be hard to figure out the cause of the problem.
What about extensions, do you use any?
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cestfatiguantopera last edited by
I have exactly th same issue, I use Opera since many many years and since a few weeks my PC tends to freeze and it's seems clearly linked to Opera, even after I use ASC to release memory.
I'll have to move to another browser because every day I have to restart the computer and it takes ages, please solve this quickly (you already lost me on Android because of your horribly bad UI) -
sonthin1 last edited by
Thanks.
@ joshl: Your ideas resemble proposals I got from an IT expert. Malware could be a problem, but I don't think so (I have Sophos, firewall software etc. always kept up to date). But, of course, one never knows.
If closed, Opera really closes.
I will try it with a second installation and here sort of 'stepwise' alternative configurations as you suggest, but since I have no second computer I will have to ask my brother or so. What would be the particular advantage of running Opera with cleaned cookies or cookies disabled? Or a cleaned profile in general? As mentioned below, I don't think that extensions are the root of the problem.
leocg:
I only use three extensions that actually do not use that much RAM (according to Opera task manager). I have also not installed new extensions in the last year or so.
@ cestfatiguantopera: Your comment is very interesting, because it would indicate that it is a general problem. I'm also considering switching to another browser.
What I found today is that the problem is at least to a large extent caused by the bookmarks system (or the internal resources usage linked to it). Yesterday, a tv livestream (which I do not do that often) also increased RAM use coming close to 85 percent in total (with Opera using about 4,5 GB of RAM even slightly more sometimes). However, Opera remained stable. No breakdown.
Today only reordering bookmarks within one bookmarks folder only (!), i.e. without setting any additional bookmarks nor creating new bookmark folders increased RAM use by more than 1 GB within two min. or so peaking in total RAM use of close to 7 GB (of 8 in total). Then - same procedure - Windows stops Opera. Breakdown.
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bbildman last edited by
On my Opera (win 7, 46.0.2597.32 (PGO) ), I have 2 tabs open and there are 18 proecesses listed in Task Manager for just those 2. I have always said here since I installed New Opera (by the way I LOVE new Opera), it uses way too many resources, and definitely bumps up my CPU temp (laptop) more than I think it should.
Maybe leocg (who does yeoman service here) can explain this, and also tell us what kind of resources Old Opera used (I know it didn't use this many processes as NO) and what the differences are.
Just as a back of the envelope comparison, I ran the same 2 tabs separately opened one at a time...(Opera Forums and Drudge Report), Old Opera 32 used one process of 149,000 K, and New Opera used 588,000 K, with 18 processes running. BIG difference!!
Thanks
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norre01 last edited by
Well, I'm kinda having the same problem. But a little bit different.
For me the memory usage increased with Opera which added WhatsApp and Facebook Messenger into the browser.
It's not a biggie for me, I can live with it (I disabled/unchecked both anyway).What bothers me is that with Opera 46.0.2597.32 (Windows 10 64-bit) Mixcloud doesn't work fine anymore ... mouse cursor with blue wheels starts to blink after is press "play" button. It doesn't matter do I have just 1 or lots of tabs opened, it keeps blinking even when the browser is minimized or is in the background or other tab is opened. After closing Opera, the blinking stops.
Opera task manager shows same time flashing GPU process ... see gif image below
https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7buaY0GuIUQzrn3i/source.gifSame issue also with Google Maps
Sometimes it happens also with Soundcloud and IG, but only when lots of tabs opened and only when scrolling the page. Blinking stops after mouse click.
Twitter, FB and YT working fine.
With Vivaldi, Firefox, Edge no problems with Mixcloud showing up.I tried without extensions, cleared history, cleaned profile folder, updated Flash player ... nothing helped.
Finally after hardware acceleration is enabled the problem with blinking mouse cursor seems to be gone.
But something tells me it ain't the right solution.PS! Opera 46.0.2597.32 loads speed-dials a lot longer/slower than before.
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A Former User last edited by
Norre, seems like a different issue, start a thread of your own then.
Leo, I remember people talking about some bookmarks' $hit updating even when page's not open. Like icons or stuff.
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bbildman last edited by
leo, can you address the resources issue as it relates to how New Opera is using a lot more resources than Old Opera. (See my entry above where I compared the two side by side separately for the same 2 tabs).
Thanks
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sonthin1 last edited by
Hi,
I'm not sure if I understand all new comments correctly and inhowfar they would refer to the original problem described, but I can tell that I also have the bookmarks' icons (or the particular bookmarks icons feature in Opera) under suspicion for causing the high RAM use and also the long time it takes for relaunching Opera.
Background is that this feature is important for me, because I like to indentify bookmarks and especially different bookmark types with icons. In that, this is a crucial feature for me.
There are at least two indications for this as a major root of the problem.
1: When setting a new bookmark I mostly have to change the icon of the bookmark in a 'second step', i.e. basically an additional setting of the very same bookmark. This slows down Opera twice in short time, which burdens RAM use as well as the operarion of the CPU (you can hear it clearly). Furthermore, such bookmarks setting of more than one bookmark increase RAM use little by little as described above.
2: Relaunching Opera after a breakdown or regularly seems time-consuming because of this particular feature (i.e., loading all bookmarks WITH correct icons assigned). This is obvious as it is one of the processes during the relaunch that seems to last forever).
So, considering the very high number of bookmarks creating a large bookmarks file, this might explain the high resources consumption by Opera. If there are indeed such things is background update of icons of bookmarks, i.e. even for tabs not opened, this seems to be even more plausible. Similarly, if Opera works in a way to have ALL booksmarks with correct icon 'ready' when Opera is open I should probably not wonder at all ...
I have one addtional small problem since today for which I'm not sure if it is relevant for a new discussion:
Opera has changed some settings, but not the entire language, from the language I use in Opera to English. This would not worry me that much. However, I'm wondering if it could indicate a more relevant bug. But perhaps it disappears with the very next update.
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A Former User last edited by
In the last few weeks I have been repeatedly suffering with a tab closing and a message saying Ran out of memory (reload).
I would understand this if I had many tabs open but it has happened with as few as 2 open tabs. This is not good enough.
I first came to Opera because it was a light system. This now struggles more than Chrome, incredibly. Traditionally, Chrome has used far more memory than Opera.
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Antiscool21 last edited by
Yeah, I found that Opera uses way more RAM than it did in the past. Sometimes I have 50+ tabs open and opera might be using 8+ gigs of RAM, but I have never had a slow down, even on my low powered laptop.
