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Opera 45: Weird messenger permissions

  • Hello everybody!

    I've been upgraded to the new versions of Opera, which offers some messenger integration. However, I've ran into problems.

    1. I have nothing against the sidebar being on the home screen. However, I don't use it in browser window. Have never used, and am not going to. So why does pinning the sidebar is required to use messengers? As in, not pinned - no messengers. Would've been at least bearable if it could be automatically hidden and then called when moving the mouse to the screen edge. However, no such setting. I don't want the sidebar in my browser window. Which now means, no new features.

    2. Why do all three messenger required access to mic & cam? Even Telegram, which, afaik, doesn't even have voice/video functionality. I've used all three as standalone web apps from their creators, and they didn't require no permissions by default. So why does Opera's built-in messengers do? And in such a manner that you cannot continue the setup process until you grant access. I'd happily use the texting only feautures of the messagers, no voice/video. Why no choice? Why have a checkbox at all, of there is no choice?

    All of this, unfortunately, means that I won't be able to appreciate all the work put into messengers integration. I would love to use it, but you've implemented it in such a way that makes usage impossible for me. Such a shame.

  • So why does pinning the sidebar is required to use messengers?

    Please see this

    The point of having the messengers on the sidebar is to allow the user to chat without needing to leave the page s/he is on it makes sense that the messenger on the sidebar only works with it pinned.

    Would've been at least bearable if it could be automatically hidden and then called when moving the mouse to the screen edge

    There have been some requests on it.

    Why do all three messenger required access to mic & cam?

    There have been some complains on it. I have no idea why those accesses are required.

  • Thank you for some clarification. "Full browser experience" sounds like a bad joke, though. Real people often have much smaller displays than the designer guys and gals. They keep forgetting about it, with their huge screens. At 1280 x 1024 the open side pane overlays 1/3 of my screen. That's not a full browser experience. That's an automatic switch to mobile view on responsive websites and unreadable content on non-responsive in a side-by-side mode.

    And if the chat is not always visible, then I see no reason to have anything else in the browser window, including the sidebar that carries the messenger icon. Give me sound notification, and be done with it. I'd keep a separate tab for the messenger. Leave it on the home screen, for example. Together with the sidebar, if it's so important. But off my browser window, please. That's ridiculous.

    Such a great idea ruined by execution. :/

  • Remember when Opera had a built-in mail and Internet Relay Chat client? That integration worked perfectly without interfering with your browsing experience.

    Wasn't there a reason why M2 got removed from Opera Next?

  • Wasn't there a reason why M2 got removed from Opera Next?

    It's not something to be discussed on this topic.

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