Separate search box

  • Is there a setting or an extension available to add a search box separate from the address box for opera 20?

  • There's a very large one on the speed dial page.

  • Adding the duckduckgo extension puts an icon up on the top, right hand side, that when pressed opens a search box. It also avoids Google as far as I know.

  • The speed dial searchbox isn't even close to what I want for multiple reasons.

    1. It's only available on new tabs.

    2. When I'm using the keyboard instead of the mouse having to type "Ctrl+T Tab Tab Tab Tab" to reach the search box is not only worse by 3 key strokes than "Ctrl+T Tab" to go from the address bar to an adjacent search box, it's also worse than in address bar options like "Ctrl+T g space".

    3. At least by default, it's only a google search, and doesn't appear to have an easy option to use a different search provder.

  • The speed dial searchbox isn't even close to what I want for multiple reasons.

    Well, on reading your initial post, which was quite devoid of any real details, my suggestion was pretty spot-on with what was requested.

  • I want it adjacent to the address bar and to work similarly to the one in opera 12.x and firefox.

  • The answer is, I think then, no. but why are you disenclined to search from the address bar?

  • search auto-complete without the use of a prefix character to trigger is a privacy flaw in that it sends every url I type to Google. Absolutely unacceptable under any circumstance.

    Needing to use a prefix to trigger auto complete searching eg "g space download firefox" is either 1 (if I start by creating a new tab with Ctrl+T) or two (if I start by clicking in the box) extra characters to type. On anything with a screen bigger than a netbook it's an inconvenience for absolutely no benefit benefit because the display is wide enough to accommodate showing the full URL with plenty of room for a discrete search box to the right.

  • I had asked this question in the forum and was told there was no difference in safety. You don't have to use Google as the search engine. There were 5 choices from the address. If you right click on it, you can see what they are. Are you saying if you don't use Google as the search from the search bar, all the URLs go to google anyway. I don't understand that. 😉 It's a bit scary. I hope some others in the forum chime in here on the question of whether a search from the address bar is as safe as a search from a separate search bar.

    However, I do believe in safety. I have the extension Disconnect Search from the Chrome store. It's supposed to be very protected/safe. You might want to look at that one. It sets up a separate search bar if you click on a button, including five engines, one of which is DuckDuckGo. I think whatever engine you choose, it's safe because of the way it is set up.m Here's a discussion of it. I saw a very good review that it got in a computer magazine a few weeks ago. Forget which one.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=disconnect Search

  • Here's something on Disconnect Search. It sounds like outsiders think your search request is coming from Disconnect. They have no idea it is coming from you.

    https://disconnect.me/search#

  • You might create a firewall rule to block autosearch urls like https://www.google.com/complete/search* (replace .com with your national domain or a wildcard). The Google search will still work, but only if you press Enter.

  • The Disconnect search can operate from the main address box. So if you use one of the disconnect search engines -- let's say google, bing, yahoo, or others (DuckDuckGo is listed as a search engine, there is a problem with it right now, but they are working on a quick fix, I have been told), none of the search inquiries (purportedly 😉 can be traced to you. An ousider will see the inquiry coming from Disconnect. So if you use Disconnect, you seemingly don't need the separate search box. Once you get it going, and check the box saying search from the main address bar, you have -- they are saying -- your protected searches, and good privacy. Alternatively, though, you can, if you prefer, search from a separate Disconnect box, though that takes a click to open it.

  • Is there a setting or an extension available to add a search box separate from the address box for opera 20?

    This is something I loved about Opera too, the ability to type in a query and then select the search engine to use. Now with it adopting that stupid omnibar crap you have to type in a prefix.

    Fauxbar looks like it might do the trick but I haven't tested it since I don't currently have any chromium browsers installed. You will need to install the extension that allows you to use ones from the Chrome store first

    https://chrome.google.com/webstore/search-extensions/search box

  • Just gave it a try with Dragon and while it does create the separate search bar, it does it in a new tab page, so not exactly the same thing. I guess it's the closest we are going to get seeing as no webkit or chromium browser has a separate search bar. Monoculture is bad

  • If you have a favorite search engine, typing one or two letters in advance of a search is nothing. It's time to worry about what is worth worrying about and not mere nothings. Otherwise, haha, one would go mad.

    As for the separate search box, you don't need it with Disconnect Plus. Your search request is not tracked to you. Of course, Opera does come in the Speed Dial with a separate google search bar, but I deleted it, as it takes up too much space, and accomplishes nothing.

  • Hi, new poster, but longtime Opera user here. If the issue is that someone only wants to use one alternative search engine then I agree, typing a single letter before the search term is not a big deal. However as well as the autocomplete issue, another reason people like a separate search box is to give greater choice of searches. In Opera 12 I have 12 different engines to choose for different purposes. (I used to have 18) As well as Duckduckgo, Startpage and ixquick, engines like Ask, Blekko (my current favourite for its tidy results), Zoo (formerly metacrawler),and Yandex give great results, and there are also custom searches for particular sites, image searches etc. It is far easier to find these in a drop down menu than trying to remember code letters or keywords for all of them.
    Finally, to say there are five existing possibilities which should be enough for most people is not really accurate. Two - Amazon and Wikipedia - only give results from one website each.

  • Grierzo, first off, welcome to the forum.

    And I do see your point. There was a security reason why Opera limited itself to the five defaults (something, I believe about the risk of hijacked search engines, but I cannot for the life of me remember exactly what it was. Perhaps someone else who recalls can post that here.

    Still there are really 😉 not so difficult, albeit perhaps old fashioned workarounds. If you want to use A LOT of alternative searches (the vast majority of people, allow me to propose, do not) (They usually stick with a favorite search engine, whether it be one of the common ones or another),
    you could, as has already been noted in this forum, add the searches to Opera by going to the website and right clicking on the search bar, then right clicking on the opera address bar and finding the one or two letter code. And then (Haha, it sounds like an advertisement: I do it the old fashioned way) paste a little note on your dekstop with the search codes, or have them in your top desk drawer for easy and immediate access when needed. if you do some of your searches with the codes, you may well have the most frequently utilized easily memorized.

    There's always the ideal world, and then the world of workarounds. In this area of searches, I personally don't think a workaround is a big deal.

  • As far as I know you can add searchs and choose which one you want to be the pattern. You can the search engine when you are going to search something.

    Look

  • Hi, new poster, but longtime Opera user here. If the issue is that someone only wants to use one alternative search engine then I agree, typing a single letter before the search term is not a big deal. However as well as the autocomplete issue, another reason people like a separate search box is to give greater choice of searches. In Opera 12 I have 12 different engines to choose for different purposes. (I used to have 18) As well as Duckduckgo, Startpage and ixquick, engines like Ask, Blekko (my current favourite for its tidy results), Zoo (formerly metacrawler),and Yandex give great results, and there are also custom searches for particular sites, image searches etc. It is far easier to find these in a drop down menu than trying to remember code letters or keywords for all of them.
    Finally, to say there are five existing possibilities which should be enough for most people is not really accurate. Two - Amazon and Wikipedia - only give results from one website each.

    I completely agree with you. I had(and still do in Firefox)10 search engines with 6-8 of them being used daily. People are different and we work differently. Old Opera was great for that and it was the main reason I used it. IE wasn't just a terrible browser because it was slow and a security hole but because of the lack of options. Chrome came along and in spite of it's speed and extensions, is still very restrictive. Those who used Opera tolerated the site incompatibilities for a reason. It's no surprise then why new Opera is getting so much flack.

  • alreadybanned: why so negative all the time? I mean seriously... if Opera doesn't float your boat, why not find something that does?

    Sidneyneto: that's pretty cool and informative. Thanks for pointing that out. I'm sure "most" readers will appreciate it.

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