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    • th00ht
      th00ht last edited by

      Opera mail is able to keep mailinglist entries in a seperate box called Mailinglist, that is fine. However the title of the mailing list are obscure, silly or both. I have the top 8 mailing lists called '0', the next one is called '03874002139a986a893bd', and 260 others with similar names. Most of them contain no entries, some 1.

      How do I remove all the entries from Mailinglists?
      How do I manage the Mailinglist headers?

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      • leocg
        leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

        How do I remove all the entries from Mailinglists?

        I guess you cam just use 'delete' button.

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        • burnout426
          burnout426 Volunteer last edited by

          After you delete them, if they come back, just keep them from then on. Then, right-click in the Mailing Lists access point and create a new folder named "junk". Then, drag all those lists into it. Then, collapse the folder to keep them out of the way.

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          • th00ht
            th00ht last edited by

            They keep reappearing. Even when nothing is in them. I did like you told a couple of days ago and now there are again 20+ empty entries in the Mailinglist. I understand that you want to sell me this behaviour as a feature but I believe it is a bug. I suppose the idea is that multiple emails for a single mailinglist appear under a single entry but Opera Mail doesn-t work that way. It creates a folder for each single mail on a mailinglist. The algorithme to deduce a mailing list from the mail is flawed and should be fixed.
            Now I have to delete the email AND go to the mailinglist and delete the now obsolete mailinglist header. Featurewise this quialifies as a bug.

            And thankg for the time burnout, but there isn't even a select all possibility in the Mailinglist. A flaw, that in the decade with erradicated the common could is just simple not acceptable.

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            • leocg
              leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

              and now there are again 20+ empty entries in the Mailinglist.

              If I remember correctly, Opera looks for some data on the message header to get if it's part of a mailing list and also the list name.

              So if you get a message with that 'command' in its header then Opera will show it as part of a mailing list.

              I understand that you want to sell me this behaviour as a feature but I believe it is a bug

              in this case you will need to learn how to deal with it since Opera Mail stopped being developed more than three years ago, so no bugs will be fixed.

              I suppose the idea is that multiple emails for a single mailinglist appear under a single entry

              Yes, this is how it should work.

              but Opera Mail doesn-t work that way. It creates a folder for each single mail on a mailinglist.

              It seems that something may be wrong with your installation or those mailing lists aren't correctly set up.

              Have you tried with a separated clean installation?

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              • burnout426
                burnout426 Volunteer last edited by

                Try checking the database to see if that clears up the entries.

                If that doesn't work, indeed try a new installation to test with. Download the Opera Mail installer, launch it, click "options", set "install path" to a folder on your desktop, set "install for" to "Standalone Installation (USB)" and install. In that Opera, set up your mail accounts fresh. Do not import anything and do not uncheck "leave messages on server" if you're using POP.

                If those same entries in mailing lists appear again, it means Opera fetched a messages that had those values in their message list headers (in the source of the messages). Most of the time when the mailing list names are gibberish, you'll find that they're coming from spam messages. If you find this to be the case, you need to delete those messages and prevent them from coming in again (via server-side filtering for example) before deleting the mailing list entries.

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                • th00ht
                  th00ht last edited by

                  They are not gibberish and come from a news agency I subscribed to. The headers are thusly:
                  Received: from zhhdzmsp-mxin16.bluewin.ch (195.186.227.152) by
                  mbox44.it.bwns.ch (9.0.023.04) id 57CF41F901553414 for kingma@bluewin.ch; Mon,
                  10 Oct 2016 05:30:40 +0000
                  X-Bluewin-Spam-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=U+Ql1lzX c=1 sm=1 tr=0 b=1 a=MiLTiWc9JtiziXrwKSsMYQ==:117 a=MiLTiWc9JtiziXrwKSsMYQ==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=6giede-wJD4A:10 a=CH0kA5CcgfcA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=tST59n_CAAAA:8 a=qDxqid5yQrs4ofbIo5MA:9 a=rnEkUm7XtHRd-KvB:21 a=-Wh1SFU02EBiYKpH:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=hNFa2kPEML4A:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=3g80flMcAAAA:8 a=3IeLnGJ6AAAA:8 a=Y7UbuNlPAAAA:8 a=Nato-lChFvB9O-yZeDoA:9 a=VulRcE4bMqLHQWW4:21 a=laBfexxcV60PE-Cg:21 a=7zl0GXmszp3xJ9xL:21 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=ezZP7l2yBGsA:10 a=p403mkujtbAA:10 a=q7xmFlB--d605hAxylca:22 a=zjWhRoSqWz9hl55Hdlzg:22 a=3urWGuTZa-U-TZ_dHwj2:22 a=CIX2fKDqIAj4SMstqDkk:22 a=kdnj2-36IGcqZfts4Ro1:22
                  X-Bluewin-Spam-Score: 0
                  X-FXIT-IP: IPv4[13.111.14.63] Epoch[1476077440]
                  Received: from [13.111.14.63] ([13.111.14.63:59853] helo=mta.email.nzz.ch) by
                  zhhdzmsp-mxin16.bluewin.ch (envelope-from
                  bounce-1355_HTML-170325164-878252-7239191-80@bounce.email.nzz.ch) (ecelerity
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                  DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; s=200608; d=email.nzz.ch; h=From:To:Subject:Date:List-Unsubscribe:MIME-Version:List-ID:Message-ID:Content-Type; i=nzzam_osc_ja-reply@email.nzz.ch; bh=1lg/O45c6eqakoz0em+m8r5sM9I=; b=YwHbgh9UWWUZgJPs27GJgh5vKjrTfUt96veajJSzQ+yB+07y7NYHV2+jR9GT8bU1GiNuPOJy3yex Q5e5qIHNdfZKbPpDdhvCGsPjhGkzrpkE4SE+Jq4ppNYvTIVCP7OwEIVcaJSyJ91Cl42/UFFfRRuM V88a10w5vlSrwLikz9c=
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                  Oct 2016 05:30:08 +0000 (envelope-from
                  bounce-1355_HTML-170325164-878252-7239191-80@bounce.email.nzz.ch)
                  From: "NZZ am Morgen" nzzam_osc_ja-reply@email.nzz.ch
                  To: kingma@bluewin.ch
                  Subject: Trump setzt im zweiten TV-Duell auf Angriff statt Reue /
                  Mutmasslicher Anschlagsplaner von Chemnitz gefasst / Produktion von Samsung
                  Galaxy Note 7 ausgesetzt
                  Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 07:30:08 +0200
                  List-Unsubscribe: mailto:leave-fd1d157370616b2531492c-fe32157775670678741274-febf1c777d66017f-fe8f1372766d057474-ff971c70@leave.email.nzz.ch
                  MIME-Version: 1.0
                  List-Id: 7239191_878252.xt.local
                  X-CSA-Complaints: whitelistcomplaints@eco.de
                  x-job: 7239191_878252
                  Message-ID: 0d38ef0b-1171-4b21-9dfd-93f73957b7f9@atl1s07mta971.xt.local
                  Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="2PIDDppaef7d=
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                  This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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                  • th00ht
                    th00ht last edited by

                    How and where do I file a bug report?

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                    • lando242
                      lando242 last edited by

                      Opera mail is no longer being developed. Filing a bug report would not do anything.

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                      • burnout426
                        burnout426 Volunteer last edited by

                        They are not gibberish and come from a news agency I subscribed to. The headers are thusly

                        There are List-Id headers in them. A List-Id header tells Opera to create a mailing list view for the mailing list. So, it's not a bug and is intentional by Opera.

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