How to undelete a message in Trash?

  • There seems to be no way of moving a message from the Trash to Inbox. Could this be true? There is a copy option in Trash but no Paste option in Inbox. That's logical....not.

    Now I can go into my Profile/Mail/Store folder and see all my accounts but where is Trash? Are they all grouped together? How convenient! Who designs this stuff? And why would there be no backup option in Opera Mail? Is this just slightly important? Any idea if a backup option is included with Outlook or Thunderbird?

    Actually, since Operamail is kind of at its end of life, can we get recommendations for other good mail programs?

  • If i remember correctly there is an undelete option to restore the message to its original place.

  • Maybe right after you delete it but not days after. No undelete option when I right click the message or on the Menu bar anywhere. Wish there was! What is nuts is there is no paste option for the Inbox! That would solve all the problems.

  • Trash to Unread doesn't work because you've read the message. After restoring the message to received you need to Mark as > Unread.

  • In "All Messages/Trash", there should be an "undelete" option available on messages.

    Right-click -> delete -> undelete.

    The trash icon on the message toolbar will also function as undelete unless you click its drop-down to choose delete.

    If you set "show trash" for other views so that trash shows in them, the same undelete options will be available if a message marked as trash is selected.> but no Paste option in Inbox.

    In Opera Mail, messages are kept track of by a database. Views like "Inbox" and Unread and just search results gotten from performing a search on the database with the criteria for that view. They're not actual folders.

    Now under the "you@example.com" access point for an IMAP account, since those views represent folders on the server, you can cut/copy and paste or drag or ctrl + drag and drop, all like you would in Windows Explorer.

    It's all designed for fast and efficient searching and use. But, you have to get used to it to reap the benefits.

    Now I can go into my Profile/Mail/Store folder and see all my accounts but where is Trash?

    Messages in the store folder are grouped by account/year/month/day/file.mbs (standard mbox file). They're not grouped into folders that sync with the UI as Opera doesn't have folders like other mail clients. A message being trash is just a status that's stored in the database. It's also stored in a header in the mbs file, but that's not guaranteed to be up to date like in the database. drafts for all accounts and the attachments for the drafts are stored in the store folder under the "drafts" folder.

    Basically, you have messages and flags/statuses that tell what type of message it is and where it should show up.

    And why would there be no backup option in Opera Mail?

    The backup process is to close down Opera Mail and copy the "mail" folder, wand.dat, contacts.adr, operaprefs.ini and opcert6.dat to a safe place. The "store" folder is where your messages are at, already in the correct form to back up. To restore, you put all of that back, replacing what's currently there. Keep in mind though that messages aren't always downloaded in full in the store folder. This means that you might have to choose to fetch all messages completely before closing down Opera and backing up. But, keep in mind, you can ctrl + s a message to save it. Or, you can right-click a view and choose to export it to an mbs file. An mbs file can contain more than one message. Opera and other clients can import these.

    You can't just back up the store folder as that won't back up all the flags and statuses etc. You need all the files.

    I use Thunderbird now. You can most of the stuff you can do in Opera with save searches (including their options), custom views and filters. It's just more work. And, because Thunderbird invokes the search for a saved search when you open the view and doesn't heavily cache it like Opera, Thunderbird will be a little bit slower in displaying long message lists. But, you get used to it.

  • Trash to Unread doesn't work because you've read the message. After restoring the message to received you need to Mark as > Unread.

    Actually I found Undelete inside Delete. Weird place to put it. They should have put it right under Delete. I bet most people wouldn't find this. Anyway, I tired undeleting a message and its removed from Trash but I had no idea where it went. You'd think it would return to where it was deleted from. I think it goes to Received but the message counts are still the same, yet the message isn't in Unread. The logic stupifies. Now I may have changed something here because my Unread is the same number as my Received. It didn't used to be that way. In my Received, all messages are bold like in Unread. Anybody know what could have happened? There are so few options in Preferences to choose from but maybe I did something somewhere else?

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