How do I import bookmarks from Firefox to opera 20

thutoms

thutoms

Point 1: The bookmark bar is a nuisance, I want to have as little things visible on my browser as possible, so nothing would disrupt my view. Also, it is mentally exhausting, I don't want to have my bookmarks and folders exposed to anyone like that.
Point 2: I need to have bookmarks as visually concise as possible, this was the case in Opera 12, that I last used. - A list of all my bookmarks and folders with a simple ctrl+b.
Point 3: The speed dial was only convenient when I could actually use the shortcuts (ctr + 1 until 9), without that the speed dial loses half of its serviceability. Like mentioned before - speed dial (even with the ability to create folders) is no replacement for bookmarks. It is not visually concise, which is exasperating. Speed dial is complementary to bookmarks.

And in the end..Imagine internet users that had some good memories with previous Operas. Then they are introduced to this and they are expected to fight for bookmarks? This is ludicrously stupid! What kind of a service is this? To the ones telling us to "get with the times" ..you are just ignorant, if it doesn't bother you it doesn't prove there isn't a problem. Especially when there are so many that report that there, in fact, is a lack.

Deleted User

Deleted User

Point 1: the bookmark bar is NOT a nuisance. You can toggle it on or off with the Settings.
Point 2: there are a number of extensions that give a very good bookmark capability (i.e. Tidy Bookmarks). See the Chrome store.
Point 3: the developer version (25) will add bookmarking functionality to the browser so relax and wait to see what will be coming soon.
Point 4: many users do not have good memories of the former Opera browser, hence it never caught on with the general public. The thing that is ludicrously stupid is not informing yourself of what Opera is currently doing. Educate yourself first; THEN post.

thutoms

thutoms

Yes I can toggle it, still it is inconvenient. Much more than having a bookmark tree that I can make appear and disappear with a simple ctrl+b. Going to the settings every time for that is unnecessarily tedious. I did install Tidy, a bit robust, but way better than the bar. With that, yes, I can install add-ons for bookmarks, tab stacks and everything, it, nevertheless, feels like I'm finishing up what was left undone by the developers. Letting you in on my personal history with opera: I loved it and hated it at the same time - it had all the shortcuts and levers and tricks for my taste I wouldn't have even thought to wish for before opera, no other browser has made me feel so integrated. But in time it revealed it's weakness to me, too. So I gradually switched to others. Now, coming back to the present: I am voicing my opinion with the intention of demonstrating that there are many and loads of people with this stand point. Thanks for bringing out the future course of opera, you are making a valid point. I hope to keep by opera, for all the fuzzy memories I have with it, seriously, and I still stand by my point of voicing my opinion.

lem729

lem729

Yes I can toggle it, still it is inconvenient. Much more than having a bookmark tree that I can make appear and disappear with a simple ctrl+b.

That's what you do. You can have a bookmarks manager, like Chrookmarks for Chrome, Neater Bookmarks, Tidy Bookmarks, etc, and simply hide the Opera bookmarks bar. You don't need the bar. Now go ctrl shift E and look at your extensions. At the end of the list, at the very bottom is Extension Keyboard Shortcuts. So get a bookmarks manager, and use it, hide the bookmarks bar completely, create an easy shortcut to toggle open or closed the bookmarks manager (I use Chrookmarks, and this is how I do it), maybe ctrl b, which opens a vertical display of your bookmarks (toggled closed by another ctrl b). And there you have it. You can either click on the bookmarks manager extension on the icon bar to open it, or open it via keyboard, ctrl b. It's simple. (And that's what you asked for: a simple ctrl b) And you close it the same way.

Bookmarks are easy to manage "right now", if you put a little thought to it. Opera is a pleasure to use not tomorrow, but today, and it's going to be even better in the future. Have faith!

ahpitre

ahpitre

Still, missing a bookmarks manager, or the ability to import/export from/to the bookmarks bar is really a glarring omission on the part of the Opera team. I really think that the majority of the users would still prefer this then the odd Speedial/Stash. I think the Opera team just wanted to make Opera different for different's sake, they didn't take into account true functionality and ease of use

Deleted User

Deleted User

Educate yourself regarding Opera's current development plans (read the blogs and discover what is coming in Opera 25) BEFORE spouting off on things that are simply not true.You think this and you think that BUT your thinking is based upon your opinions and not facts.

thutoms

thutoms

I have to say, after using Tidy for a couple of days...Goddamned! Why would anyone get rid off normal bookmarks tree and leave the users with this silliness? Seriously, I could be the the stupidest user, but: when I want to save bookmark (for which I'm not sure there is a shortcut, is there any?) it asks whether it should go to stash or to the bookmarks bar. I choose the bar because that's where my bookmarks are, albeit I've hidden the bar because it is distracting in many ways. And that's where Tidy gets its bookmarks. BUT!, this is where the stupidity comes in, when i chose to save the bookmark in the bar, after clicking on that option, the bar just pops up again on my interface. And I seriously don't want it on my interface. So now, every time after I have added a bookmark to bookmark bar so I could reach for it through Tidy, I have to afterwards go alt+p every damned time to hide the bookmarks bar again, because it pops up every time I add a bookmark to it...Explain me this: is this necessary? Why would anyone make such a thing and launch it? Why not just keep it traditional in certain areas (BOOKMARKS)? This is in no way user friendly! Seriously hope they'll launch the next one soon and take into account my, and many others', lament).

thutoms

thutoms

Not to mention, Tidy does have a shortcut for saving bookmarks (alt+A), but this way i cant choose the destination folder for the bookmark. So I'd have to go and manually drag it to one, which is again just plain bad design. Same with when I click manually on the heart symbol to save a bookmark and it asks me whether stash or bookmark bar, in addition to popping up the bar it doesn't let me choose a folder for the bookmark, so I have to go back to find it somewhere in the bottom and then drag it to the correct folder..

blackbird71

blackbird71

... Why would anyone get rid off normal bookmarks tree and leave the users with this silliness? Seriously, I could be the the stupidest user, but: when I want to save bookmark (for which I'm not sure there is a shortcut, is there any?) it asks whether it should go to stash or to the bookmarks bar. I choose the bar because that's where my bookmarks are, albeit I've hidden the bar because it is distracting in many ways. And that's where Tidy gets its bookmarks. BUT!, this is where the stupidity comes in, when i chose to save the bookmark in the bar, after clicking on that option, the bar just pops up again on my interface. And I seriously don't want it on my interface. So now, every time after I have added a bookmark to bookmark bar so I could reach for it through Tidy, I have to afterwards go alt+p every damned time to hide the bookmarks bar again, because it pops up every time I add a bookmark to it...Explain me this: is this necessary? Why would anyone make such a thing and launch it? Why not just keep it traditional in certain areas (BOOKMARKS)? This is in no way user friendly! Seriously hope they'll launch the next one soon and take into account my, and many others', lament).

This demonstrates one of the foundational issues I have with the basic concept of extensions: they are "bolted-on", not integrated within the design. Depending on the browser code's interface rules, there are only certain things an extension maker can do to interface with a given browser's functionality... hence this can (and often does) limit the "smoothness" of operation from a user standpoint. Certainly, some extension designers may find better or more clever ways of employing the browser code API's to achieve better performance than their competitor extensions, but a fundamental limitation still remains when compared with a well-integrated "internal" functional design of the same "feature".

That said, it remains a present reality that all the mainstream browsers are sipping the 'extension Kool-Aid' at this moment in time... the attractiveness of exporting a mountain of "feature" design effort to third parties is irresistable under the current economic realities of a free-browser world. So... as a user, you simply have to keep trying different browsers and/or extensions until you find something that works for you in the most acceptable way.

Deleted User

Deleted User

So... as a user, you simply have to keep trying different browsers and/or extensions until you find something that works for you in the most acceptable way.

Absolutely agree. If you want to offer a suggestion (re bookmarking), then it's better done in the developer blogs or the Suggestion folder rather than here. Furthermore, these complaints have been made hundreds of times for over a year now so Opera is well aware of the situation. I have not tried v.25 which is not yet stable but it is rumored that it has a traditional bookmark feature so you might want to "stick around" before opting for another browser.

mrlonnybrooks1

mrlonnybrooks1

Command-A to select all your Firefox Bookmarks Export to HTML desktop file(Maybe make a folder)
In Opera
Go to Settings > Import and export
File > Import and export.

Choose the file name, change the location if you want to find it easily, and click "Save".
Import the data file according to the instructions of your other browser.