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    • lem729
      lem729 last edited by

      Opera still is the best browser! Yes, they can can change this, and make this better, but even as it is, I find it superb. And I say that without hesitation. In any event, salek73, hope you enjoy whichever one you are using. I was also an Opera User when you had to pay for it.

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      • s0lem
        s0lem last edited by

        If there are many threads complaining or questioning the favorites, the problem is not the user but the tool, because if there is a bookmark bar I think there should be a decent manager.

        I do not think coming here to install the version that is spoken most current, with one thing in half of these. If there was a simple method to import bookmarks from other places and put as SpeedDial, ok ... but no.

        And yes, I searched the forum before replying this topic, and I was not happy with any of the alternatives. Also because it is supposed to be usable and has the feature, at a minimum I do not need to come here researching.

        I as a user have no problem with my bookmarks in Chrome, IE, and others.

        As said, which surprised the User to install and see who can not quickly import your favorites.

        And yes, looking on google, you will find many ways to do it, but that's not the point. It should be easy to find an easy way inside Opera, since it is already a very known browser to Opera Link I do not know if it works.

        I went back to install Opera many years later, I was amazed with the quality, beauty, but the simple favorites, or whatever they call it now, is only possible in other ways which I as a user do not want to have to search for how to do as well as the other browsers do, not because favorites turned speeddial, stash or whatever it is, but because for me and surely many others this is essential.

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        • lem729
          lem729 last edited by

          @sOlem

          As for the many threads of complaints, a lot of people don't know how to use the existing bookmarks features in Opera, and related extensions. Also, the Opera browser has been evolving with each update.

          First there is a bookmarks bar in Opera 23. You raised a question there when you said, " because if there is a bookmark bar I think there should be a decent manager." There's no "if" about it. Just go Alt P, and under User Interface, put a check in Show Bookmarks Bar. And then you have it.

          In addition, please rest assured that there are quite good bookmark manager extensions. Here's a link to Neater Bookmarks, Neater Bookmarks, https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/neater-bookmarks/ofgjggbjanlhbgaemjbkiegeebmccifi?hl=en-US

          Chrookmarks for Chrome is also very good, (it's the one I am now using) https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chrookmarks-chrome-bookma/kcdheengilgkagjehknnnofigbmlnnfj?hl=en-US,

          You can download and try both, annd decide which one you prefer as a bookmarks manager extension. Then just uninstall the other one.

          You do need that Opera Extension called Download Chrome Extension, https://addons.opera.com/en/extensions/details/download-chrome-extension-9/?display=en or Extension Source Viewer, https://addons.opera.com/en/extensions/details/extension-source-viewer/ in order to download either of these Chrome Extensions.

          With the right bookmarks manager (and I like the two I recommended), I see no need to show the personal bookmarks bar. So I go Alt P, and take the check out of Show Bookmarks Bar. That gains me valuable real estate in the browser. When I want to see my bookmarks, I just click on the bookmarks manager icon.

          Stash and Speed Dial are totally different ways to make bookmarks. And I do find the Speed Dial (where you can create folders by dragging one bookmark thumbnail in the Speed Dial on top of another) totally superb. That's another feature though, so I won't go into it here. In terms of traditional bookmarks you can certainly have a nice personal bookmarks vertical display with a good bookmarks manager in Opera 23. I'm delighted with what I can do with just that.

          Also, I recommend the Opera extension called "Add bookmark"(I also use it)
          https://addons.opera.com/en/extensions/details/add-bookmark?display=en
          as it makes it easy to, in taking the bookmark, put it in the right place on your bookmarks tree. The native feature in Opera 23 for taking the bookmarks does not work as well.

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          • thutoms
            thutoms last edited by

            Point 1: The bookmark bar is a nuisance, I want to have as little things visible on my browser as possible, so nothing would disrupt my view. Also, it is mentally exhausting, I don't want to have my bookmarks and folders exposed to anyone like that.
            Point 2: I need to have bookmarks as visually concise as possible, this was the case in Opera 12, that I last used. - A list of all my bookmarks and folders with a simple ctrl+b.
            Point 3: The speed dial was only convenient when I could actually use the shortcuts (ctr + 1 until 9), without that the speed dial loses half of its serviceability. Like mentioned before - speed dial (even with the ability to create folders) is no replacement for bookmarks. It is not visually concise, which is exasperating. Speed dial is complementary to bookmarks.

            And in the end..Imagine internet users that had some good memories with previous Operas. Then they are introduced to this and they are expected to fight for bookmarks? This is ludicrously stupid! What kind of a service is this? To the ones telling us to "get with the times" ..you are just ignorant, if it doesn't bother you it doesn't prove there isn't a problem. Especially when there are so many that report that there, in fact, is a lack.

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            • Deleted User
              Deleted User last edited by

              Point 1: the bookmark bar is NOT a nuisance. You can toggle it on or off with the Settings.
              Point 2: there are a number of extensions that give a very good bookmark capability (i.e. Tidy Bookmarks). See the Chrome store.
              Point 3: the developer version (25) will add bookmarking functionality to the browser so relax and wait to see what will be coming soon.
              Point 4: many users do not have good memories of the former Opera browser, hence it never caught on with the general public. The thing that is ludicrously stupid is not informing yourself of what Opera is currently doing. Educate yourself first; THEN post.

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              • thutoms
                thutoms last edited by

                Yes I can toggle it, still it is inconvenient. Much more than having a bookmark tree that I can make appear and disappear with a simple ctrl+b. Going to the settings every time for that is unnecessarily tedious. I did install Tidy, a bit robust, but way better than the bar. With that, yes, I can install add-ons for bookmarks, tab stacks and everything, it, nevertheless, feels like I'm finishing up what was left undone by the developers. Letting you in on my personal history with opera: I loved it and hated it at the same time - it had all the shortcuts and levers and tricks for my taste I wouldn't have even thought to wish for before opera, no other browser has made me feel so integrated. But in time it revealed it's weakness to me, too. So I gradually switched to others. Now, coming back to the present: I am voicing my opinion with the intention of demonstrating that there are many and loads of people with this stand point. Thanks for bringing out the future course of opera, you are making a valid point. I hope to keep by opera, for all the fuzzy memories I have with it, seriously, and I still stand by my point of voicing my opinion.

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                • lem729
                  lem729 last edited by

                  Yes I can toggle it, still it is inconvenient. Much more than having a bookmark tree that I can make appear and disappear with a simple ctrl+b.

                  That's what you do. You can have a bookmarks manager, like Chrookmarks for Chrome, Neater Bookmarks, Tidy Bookmarks, etc, and simply hide the Opera bookmarks bar. You don't need the bar. Now go ctrl shift E and look at your extensions. At the end of the list, at the very bottom is Extension Keyboard Shortcuts. So get a bookmarks manager, and use it, hide the bookmarks bar completely, create an easy shortcut to toggle open or closed the bookmarks manager (I use Chrookmarks, and this is how I do it), maybe ctrl b, which opens a vertical display of your bookmarks (toggled closed by another ctrl b). And there you have it. You can either click on the bookmarks manager extension on the icon bar to open it, or open it via keyboard, ctrl b. It's simple. (And that's what you asked for: a simple ctrl b) 🙂 And you close it the same way.

                  Bookmarks are easy to manage "right now", if you put a little thought to it. Opera is a pleasure to use not tomorrow, but today, and it's going to be even better in the future. Have faith!

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                  • ahpitre
                    ahpitre last edited by

                    Still, missing a bookmarks manager, or the ability to import/export from/to the bookmarks bar is really a glarring omission on the part of the Opera team. I really think that the majority of the users would still prefer this then the odd Speedial/Stash. I think the Opera team just wanted to make Opera different for different's sake, they didn't take into account true functionality and ease of use

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                    • Deleted User
                      Deleted User last edited by

                      Educate yourself regarding Opera's current development plans (read the blogs and discover what is coming in Opera 25) BEFORE spouting off on things that are simply not true.You think this and you think that BUT your thinking is based upon your opinions and not facts.

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                      • thutoms
                        thutoms last edited by

                        I have to say, after using Tidy for a couple of days...Goddamned! Why would anyone get rid off normal bookmarks tree and leave the users with this silliness? Seriously, I could be the the stupidest user, but: when I want to save bookmark (for which I'm not sure there is a shortcut, is there any?) it asks whether it should go to stash or to the bookmarks bar. I choose the bar because that's where my bookmarks are, albeit I've hidden the bar because it is distracting in many ways. And that's where Tidy gets its bookmarks. BUT!, this is where the stupidity comes in, when i chose to save the bookmark in the bar, after clicking on that option, the bar just pops up again on my interface. And I seriously don't want it on my interface. So now, every time after I have added a bookmark to bookmark bar so I could reach for it through Tidy, I have to afterwards go alt+p every damned time to hide the bookmarks bar again, because it pops up every time I add a bookmark to it...Explain me this: is this necessary? Why would anyone make such a thing and launch it? Why not just keep it traditional in certain areas (BOOKMARKS)? This is in no way user friendly! Seriously hope they'll launch the next one soon and take into account my, and many others', lament).

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                        • thutoms
                          thutoms last edited by

                          Not to mention, Tidy does have a shortcut for saving bookmarks (alt+A), but this way i cant choose the destination folder for the bookmark. So I'd have to go and manually drag it to one, which is again just plain bad design. Same with when I click manually on the heart symbol to save a bookmark and it asks me whether stash or bookmark bar, in addition to popping up the bar it doesn't let me choose a folder for the bookmark, so I have to go back to find it somewhere in the bottom and then drag it to the correct folder..

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                          • blackbird71
                            blackbird71 last edited by

                            ... Why would anyone get rid off normal bookmarks tree and leave the users with this silliness? Seriously, I could be the the stupidest user, but: when I want to save bookmark (for which I'm not sure there is a shortcut, is there any?) it asks whether it should go to stash or to the bookmarks bar. I choose the bar because that's where my bookmarks are, albeit I've hidden the bar because it is distracting in many ways. And that's where Tidy gets its bookmarks. BUT!, this is where the stupidity comes in, when i chose to save the bookmark in the bar, after clicking on that option, the bar just pops up again on my interface. And I seriously don't want it on my interface. So now, every time after I have added a bookmark to bookmark bar so I could reach for it through Tidy, I have to afterwards go alt+p every damned time to hide the bookmarks bar again, because it pops up every time I add a bookmark to it...Explain me this: is this necessary? Why would anyone make such a thing and launch it? Why not just keep it traditional in certain areas (BOOKMARKS)? This is in no way user friendly! Seriously hope they'll launch the next one soon and take into account my, and many others', lament).

                            This demonstrates one of the foundational issues I have with the basic concept of extensions: they are "bolted-on", not integrated within the design. Depending on the browser code's interface rules, there are only certain things an extension maker can do to interface with a given browser's functionality... hence this can (and often does) limit the "smoothness" of operation from a user standpoint. Certainly, some extension designers may find better or more clever ways of employing the browser code API's to achieve better performance than their competitor extensions, but a fundamental limitation still remains when compared with a well-integrated "internal" functional design of the same "feature".

                            That said, it remains a present reality that all the mainstream browsers are sipping the 'extension Kool-Aid' at this moment in time... the attractiveness of exporting a mountain of "feature" design effort to third parties is irresistable under the current economic realities of a free-browser world. So... as a user, you simply have to keep trying different browsers and/or extensions until you find something that works for you in the most acceptable way.

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                            • Deleted User
                              Deleted User last edited by

                              So... as a user, you simply have to keep trying different browsers and/or extensions until you find something that works for you in the most acceptable way.

                              Absolutely agree. If you want to offer a suggestion (re bookmarking), then it's better done in the developer blogs or the Suggestion folder rather than here. Furthermore, these complaints have been made hundreds of times for over a year now so Opera is well aware of the situation. I have not tried v.25 which is not yet stable but it is rumored that it has a traditional bookmark feature so you might want to "stick around" before opting for another browser.

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                              • mrlonnybrooks1
                                mrlonnybrooks1 last edited by

                                Command-A to select all your Firefox Bookmarks Export to HTML desktop file(Maybe make a folder)
                                In Opera
                                Go to Settings > Import and export
                                File > Import and export.

                                Choose the file name, change the location if you want to find it easily, and click "Save".
                                Import the data file according to the instructions of your other browser.

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