Opera Sold
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Deleted User last edited by
Somebody says trojan horse for Chinese market? Well, it's for Chinese not for UE or US.
But, living at US or at UE (be this wherever be), by having a Chinese software, that Opera can well become, you are as subject to risk as the Chinese ones.
@quinca71: i wonder a chinese opera running under a north korea's linux
please accept my apologies for not posting in english
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Deleted User last edited by
@quinca71: i wonder a chinese opera running under a north korea's linux
Thank you. Another thought-provoking subject.
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gfrex last edited by
How is this acquisition going? Is Opera really going to be sold?
AFAIK it didn't end yet.
Looks like it ends soon, but won't go through. Less than 73% of stockholders have agreed, and 90% or more need to agree for the transaction to take place. The offer will expire on May 24th, if they don't reach 90%.
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Deleted User last edited by
I hope they don't. I don't want Chinese spies. I love this browser and wouldn't want to see it go even more down hill.
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Deleted User last edited by
Until the next offer.
In my case, any delay can be profitable. Depending on its extension, can happen I don't be here to see. Black humor is still humor.
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gfrex last edited by
Anyone hear anything? Reuters said that earlier they were up to 'around' 89%. Yikes!
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSASN0002C3As far as I can tell, the offer period has ended. I just don't know if they got to 90% acceptance or not.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
They seem to have the 90%: http://techcrunch.com/2016/05/25/operas-shareholders-greenlight-1-2b-sale-to-chinese-consortium/
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canadagoose4ever last edited by
Well, that is unfortunate. I suspect I'll be called a variety of names for my feelings on the matter but I simply cannot place my trust in software produced under Chinese control. I've been with Opera since 2000 but I guess this means it's time to look elsewhere.
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jaiba-mon last edited by
It makes me a bit sad, too... thinking about moving to Chrome.
By the way, haven't you guys noticed how many additions we have saw in the Opera Developer version during these months?
VPN, Pop-out video, Adblock, RSS Reader... it makes me wonder... the developers doesn't have control about the shareholders, nor about this acquisition, or what the Golden Brick will decide to do with Opera... but they can code.
During all these years, Opera's market share has been low, and that's the reason Opera was looking for a buyer. Actually, were the shareholders who wanted that, and were they who accepted the acquisition with the Chinese.
After the initial announcement, the Opera Dev team... maybe, they decided to do their best to show to the shareholders, and the users, that Opera can be greater without Qihoo. That's why #StillYourOpera started, but also why all these new additions.
The developers did their best to increase the userbase, and by that persuading the shareholders to not accept the acquisition.
... this is pretty sad.
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Deleted User last edited by
I can not trust in Opera browser, in the current conjuncture. I have seven years of use and it is enough to make me captive, both by technical excellence, as by the feeling of affection that its use had generated -- I will say as I will say ahead, putting aside a possible embarrassment -- in my soul.
Due to some influences of some relations from My Opera, conserved though its extinction, but also due to the building inspired by the old Opera Presto, also loved by me, I felt myself inclined for Vivaldi
I'm coming from install it. And it seems that I will find a kind of healing for the morbid state that the loss was causing me. One aspect that afflicted me was the conservation of passwords and bookmarks, saved in Opera. For, Vivaldi immediately has imported passwords and bookmarks of the Opera, in seconds. That was a relief to the beginning and the project of Vivaldi, very similar to Opera Presto, should complement it. Where else, and which other browser allows this for me? Import from the Opera is not encountered easily (even hardly, I guess).
I am saying all this, not for promote Vivaldi, within the ambit of a concurrent, which would be unethical.
My aim is try give some consolation to many I know as injured as I am.
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blackbird71 last edited by
Well, that is unfortunate. I suspect I'll be called a variety of names for my feelings on the matter but I simply cannot place my trust in software produced under Chinese control. I've been with Opera since 2000 but I guess this means it's time to look elsewhere.
With anything, trust must be earned before I will grant it. The trust questions raised when the development of something as intimate as one's web browser moves under control of a business centered beneath a repressive, censorial political regime must necessarily extinguish the trust level previously earned by the browser's makers. With the passage of time and after broad marketplace and analytical evaluation, that trust may indeed be re-earned, but until then, I believe as you do that trust must be withdrawn. I feel great compassion for Opera and its developers who had no part in this, but are simply being carried along with the flow. But until I am convinced that its further efforts are absolutely unimpeded or 'politically' uninfluenced by the new owners' regime, I will have no trust in its future browser designs. I am indeed sorry.
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blackbird71 last edited by
So as of today, is the Opera sale to the Chinese company going to happen?
Given that the necessary number of shareholders have approved the deal, that part is now history - Opera and its stockholders have agreed to be bought by the Chinese consortium. All that would block it now would be a disapproval by either the Norwegian or Chinese government. As to when those approvals (or disapprovals) might occur depends on the time required to prepare any application-submittal and the bureaucratic latency of both governments' review processes. For a lot of reasons, it's idle to speculate on the odds of approval or disapproval and how long the decisions will both take, although because there's no 'sensitive' software technology involved, things may go easier and faster than otherwise.
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opermo last edited by
...that part is now history - Opera and its stockholders have agreed to be bought by the Chinese consortium. All that would block it now would be a disapproval by either the Norwegian or Chinese government.
So assuming all of the approvals are given, when can we expect for it to actually happen and Opera to come under the control of the Chinese company?