Is Fit to Width dead?
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browzer1 last edited by
Eons ago (version 12), Opera had a feature called "Fit to Width". It was amazing.
Why is it not possible to port that coding into the latest version?
That was one of the primary reasons I used Opera.
Does anyone know if this feature is completely dead or is anyone looking at implementing it?
Please don't suggest any addons. I've tried them all. They're useless.
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stng last edited by
Does anyone know if this feature is completely dead or is anyone looking at implementing it?
Too geeky feature.
"over the years, Presto-based Opera had become overloaded with features, a number of them confusing rather than helping our users — you can’t imagine how many reports we’ve gotten from users telling us that their favorite site was broken, simply because they had turned on fit-to-width by accident, for instance."
Source: http://www.opera.com/blogs/desktop/2013/07/the-vision-behind-opera-15-and-beyond/ -
A Former User last edited by
I wouldn't say that fit to width was "geeky", once people knew about it I'm sure they used it often because it was incredibly useful!
As for leaving it on accidentally, that could easily have been addressed by having it automatically revert to "off" every time the browser was re-started, something that I suggested way back in the good old Presto days, but it was never taken up.
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blackbird71 last edited by
I wouldn't say that fit to width was "geeky", once people knew about it I'm sure they used it often because it was incredibly useful! As for leaving it on accidentally, that could easily have been addressed by having it automatically revert to "off" every time the browser was re-started, something that I suggested way back in the good old Presto days, but it was never taken up.
I agree that it wasn't 'geeky', though I only used it once in a while myself in Olde Opera via a toolbar button. It was more in the category of a useful tool to try with certain problematic sites. Unfortunately, @stng's quote is right - quite a few times in threads on the old MyOpera forum, a browser problem was ultimately traceable to a fit-to-width setting of which the user had become unaware. It became almost a mantra for helpers to suggest the user make sure FTW was turned off when trying to help a user debug a site display issue, just like 'make sure Turbo is turned off' now is for a failure-to-correctly-access-a-secure-site issue. But I also agree that there seems to be merit in making such kinds of settings session-only by auto-resetting them when the browser is restarted. An alternative would be to include a fit-to-width option in a site-specific settings list.
Unfortunately, it's also true that something like fit-to-width appears not to exist in chromium engines, and hasn't been added/activated in any of the various chromish browsers with which I'm familiar - hence the likelihood of it being implemented at some point seems pretty small.
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A Former User last edited by
It also seems pointless in the modern web with the advent of responsive design.
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gts-r last edited by
That was one of the primary reasons I used Opera.
That and the "hide images" button (it worked instantaneously, without the need of reloading the page), also the "invert colours" option, also the zoom (this was way before Opera 12 though, at that time other browsers didn't even have the zoom function).
However, you could try Vivaldi, it has the same skin layout of the old Opera: in the bottom bar (right beside the "hide/show images" button) there's a button with which you can do some CSS customization like invert colours, greyscale, sepia, (there isn't a "fit to width", but the program is still in beta).
It also seems pointless in the modern web with the advent of responsive design.
Sure, responsive design works flawlessly, the usual result that I get when zooming in is that menu elements or other boxes get so bloated that they cover the text below, at that point I'm forced to reduce the zoom to being able to actually read the site.
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A Former User last edited by
Fit to width is one of the reasons I still use old opera as my main browser. Because i often browse from a distance from my computer causing me to zoom in and using fit to width so that I don't have to scroll sideways.