Broken websites (Twitter, Tumblr)

Deleted User

Deleted User

A bunch of websites are as of yesterdays evening broken for 12.16. Popular sites like Twitter, Tumblr and others. This is how for example Twitter's main page looks for me:

Tumblr looks the same. I tried completely reinstalling Opera, deleting all settings, starting from fresh, and I even tried Opera on another computer and on another network and I get the same results.

I don't know if this is related, but this is what Dragonfly outputs on Scripts:

Sooo..... is this the end for Opera 12.16? It can't be a coincidence that a lot of popular websites just implented something that Opera 12.16 doesn't support, right?

luxor

luxor

Originally posted by darkdex52:

This is how for example Twitter's main page looks for me:

Yep! Same here. Cleared my cache and it displayed better but no images showing.

Originally posted by darkdex52:

ooo..... is this the end for Opera 12.16? It can't be a coincidence that a lot of popular websites just implented something that Opera 12.16 doesn't support, right?

It doesn't look good that's for sure, the more it happens then we will have to look at alternative browsers. Opera Next is not on my list of alternatives as it stands at the moment.

serious

serious

Hi! Seems to be related to the download of ressources, eg. this which twitter tries to download
https://abs.twimg.com/a/1382083649/t1/css/t1_core_logged_out.bundle.css
gives me

Secure connection: fatal error (1066)

https://abs.twimg.com/a/1382083649/t1/css/t1_core_logged_out.bundle.css

Unable to verify the website's identity (OCSP error).

The response from the online certificate validation (OCSP) server was too old.

PS: as a workaround you can disable opera:config#SecurityPrefs|OCSPValidateCertificates ... though as it seems to be a pretty security-relevant feature I would not do so ...

Deleted User

Deleted User

Originally posted by serious:

Hi! Seems to be related to the download of ressources, eg. this which twitter tries to download
https://abs.twimg.com/a/1382083649/t1/css/t1_core_logged_out.bundle.css
gives me

Secure connection: fatal error (1066)

https://abs.twimg.com/a/1382083649/t1/css/t1_core_logged_out.bundle.css

Unable to verify the website's identity (OCSP error).

The response from the online certificate validation (OCSP) server was too old.

PS: as a workaround you can disable opera:config#SecurityPrefs|OCSPValidateCertificates ... though as it seems to be a pretty security-relevant feature I would not do so ...

Thanks a lot, it worked!

It does seem like a security risk, but I already had done long before all my online banking on FireFox, since internet banking sites have been broken on Opera for a long while now.

luxor

luxor

Originally posted by serious:

PS: as a workaround you can disable opera:config#SecurityPrefs|OCSPValidateCertificates ... though as it seems to be a pretty security-relevant feature I would not do so ...

Neither would I.

cybe-rider

cybe-rider

Nope, darkdex52. The end of it is the fact so few people are complaining. -The new version is nothing but a Google submission- Opera, as a single pioneer concept, has ended already, only a bunch of stubborns (like us) left. As a good friend I'll stay by its side until it perishes, the process has started already, it won't take long.

This is not the first time in history that the best product is overtaken by mediocrity, and it won't be the last. For us the good memories, for the newborn the sad massification. :awww:

edmarcio

edmarcio

I'm having the same issue on Linux.

Opera > 15 is a trash... I'm thinking to more to another browser after 12.16 gets too old.

funksoulbro

funksoulbro

I just came here to post about this. I guess my move from Opera to a different browser is going to be happening a lot sooner than I thought.

swagmasta

swagmasta

Just registered to post about this too.
Please Opera, fix this!
Keep 12 alive! You promised..

gabbyg77

gabbyg77

I use OPERA 12.16 and have the same issue since yesterday evenig with Twitter, which is my favorite social network webiste!
Please Opera, fix this!
You promised to keep OPERA 12 alive!

A Former User

Originally posted by GabbyG77:

You promised to keep OPERA 12 alive!

I don't think they promised to fix every web site that breaks in Opera 12. They just promised to fix security issues and keep it up to date. Opera 15 (July 2nd 2013)

We have neither asked nor forced our 12.x users to upgrade to Opera 15, as we know that some features that are important to you are still to come. So, while you are very welcome to test and use Opera 15, Opera 12.x will still be alive for some time. You can expect that we will keep Opera 12.x up to date and secure. In the future, once we are comfortable with the feature set, we may ask you to upgrade.

Site issues have always been difficult to address, because they're not under Opera's control. Moving to the Webkit/Blink rendering engine was, I believe, driven by the perpetual problem of keeping popular sites working.

• Web site compatibility

swagmasta

swagmasta

Well, it's a security issue so I hope they fix it fast!

Deleted User

Deleted User

Originally posted by serious:

Hi! Seems to be related to the download of ressources, eg. this which twitter tries to download
https://abs.twimg.com/a/1382083649/t1/css/t1_core_logged_out.bundle.css
gives me

Secure connection: fatal error (1066)

https://abs.twimg.com/a/1382083649/t1/css/t1_core_logged_out.bundle.css

Unable to verify the website's identity (OCSP error).

The response from the online certificate validation (OCSP) server was too old.

PS: as a workaround you can disable opera:config#SecurityPrefs|OCSPValidateCertificates ... though as it seems to be a pretty security-relevant feature I would not do so ...

In topic titled OCSP error, former senior developer yngve commented,

Originally posted by yngve:

OCSP errors are very temporary, and usually caused by network events.Two attempts milliseconds apart could get different results.

However, when it happens, Opera does not check that server again for 24 hours (when that was added OCSP responders could have troubles for days, even weeks). A restart will reset this block.

Then

Originally posted by yngve:

Perhaps the cache have to be deleted, too, in addition to the restart.

The problem has nothing to do with the certificate, but with the connection stability to the issuer's OCSP server which is checked every few days (sometimes every few hours) to determine if the certificate is still valid and have not been revoked by the issuer. Sometimes the network connection to those servers experience problems, and occasionally the server itself have problems. In those cases Opera will reduce the security level to indicate that the validity of the certificate could not be checked completely.

However clearing storage cache do not remedy the Twitter issue. As I use a standalone 12.02 installation customised especially for Twitter and nothing else, I may try disabling opera:config#SecurityPrefs|OCSPValidateCertificates if not resolved soon. Thanks for the info, serious.

Update
Clearing storage and cache did work but required two restarts, but without images loaded on twitter page. So I will probably have to try serious' opera:config switch after all.

Flxwrx

Flxwrx

I hat the same issue as of today but narrowed it down to yesterdays Java update (Vers7, update 45) - Twitter was running fine until then - but now it looks just like the first post - works fine in Explorer and Chrome interestingly...

So any idea how we get this fixed would be great - thanks

raulchanramos

raulchanramos

hi, i search a temporal option:

edit site Options > net > simulate as firefox, and restart, but the images no appear.

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/8343/cijl.jpg

excuse my english LOL

see ya!

mer8

mer8

Originally posted by Flxwrx:

I hat the same issue as of today but narrowed it down to yesterdays Java update (Vers7, update 45) - Twitter was running fine until then - but now it looks just like the first post - works fine in Explorer and Chrome interestingly...

It isn't Java. I have this problem and I don't even have Java installed.

cybe-rider

cybe-rider

Originally posted by mer8:

Originally posted by Flxwrx:

I hat the same issue as of today but narrowed it down to yesterdays Java update (Vers7, update 45) - Twitter was running fine until then - but now it looks just like the first post - works fine in Explorer and Chrome interestingly...

It isn't Java. I have this problem and I don't even have Java installed.

Actually the error console reports this for tumblr:

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[21-10-2013 23:46:56] JavaScript - https://secure.assets.tumblr.com/assets/scripts/vendor/jquery_backbone_lodash.js?_v=ad6c0bffa23b8f22780eca453285eca1
Script hiperligado não carregado
Error loading script.
[21-10-2013 23:46:58] JavaScript - https://secure.assets.tumblr.com/assets/scripts/dashboard.js?_v=8b751fe692de12255b325c0398b85bd4
[21-10-2013 23:47:00] JavaScript - https://www.tumblr.com/login
[21-10-2013 23:47:07] JavaScript - https://secure.assets.tumblr.com/assets/scripts/landing_pages/logged_out_dashboard.js?_v=41db138dfd5602bf0332ec38d47c9043
Script hiperligado não carregado
Error loading script.
[21-10-2013 23:47:07] JavaScript - https://secure.assets.tumblr.com/assets/scripts/application/keycommands.js?_v=b47a2ae604381ae99776a0ce37b416c7
Script hiperligado não carregado
Error loading script.
[21-10-2013 23:47:08] JavaScript - https://secure.assets.tumblr.com/assets/scripts/posts.js?_v=e112c2c5967c5dd82e057d07320f3f67
Script hiperligado não carregado
Error loading script.
[21-10-2013 23:47:09] JavaScript - https://secure.assets.tumblr.com/assets/scripts/audio_player.js?_v=e41171728c805372b3b454079306a0ce
Script hiperligado não carregado
Error loading script.
[21-10-2013 23:47:09] JavaScript - https://secure.assets.tumblr.com/assets/scripts/registration.js?_v=198d289f9e5378ebedbdf9f3a85754d9
Script hiperligado não carregado
Error loading script.
[21-10-2013 23:47:10] JavaScript - https://www.tumblr.com/login
Inline script thread
Uncaught exception: TypeError: 'Tumblr.KeyCommandsConstructor' is not a constructor
Error thrown at line 391, column 12 in https://www.tumblr.com/login:
Tumblr.KeyCommands = new Tumblr.KeyCommandsConstructor();
[21-10-2013 23:47:10] JavaScript - https://www.tumblr.com/login
Inline script thread
Uncaught exception: TypeError: 'Tumblr.LoggedOutDashboardB' is not a constructor
Error thrown at line 409, column 8 in https://www.tumblr.com/login:
new Tumblr.LoggedOutDashboardB();

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And that's all Java...

Deleted User

Deleted User

I have the same problem with Twitter on Opera 12.16.

In the meantime i use TweetDeck for Twitter...

edmarcio

edmarcio

Originally posted by Cybe-Rider:

And that's all Java...

JavaScript... not Java... two way different things that share some part of the name

JavaScript is the default script language used by all web browsers
Java is the complete programming language (not a script) used by Java Virtual Machine * you need to install it on your PC *

There are not related.

cybe-rider

cybe-rider

Originally posted by edmarcio:

Originally posted by Cybe-Rider:

And that's all Java...

JavaScript... not Java... two way different things that share some part of the name

JavaScript is the default script language used by all web browsers
Java is the complete programming language (not a script) used by Java Virtual Machine * you need to install it on your PC *

There are not related.

Thank you edmarcio. Yet it is a strange unfortunate coincidence that on the same day we got Java 1.7.0_45 some sites got suddenly broken. I'm just wondering if there was some safety update to the JavaScript language that Opera 12.16 was not updated/prepared with/for. Opera should do fine with TLS 1.0, RC4 128 bit encryption; RSA 2048 bit exchange of tumblr and tweeter, which are pretty standard, the fact is the login page is totally scrambled... Tumblr and Tweeter are also two different things and yet... There should be a culprit and the only changing I can remember in the OS was, as mentioned by Flxwrx, the Java update.

I have to believe you when you say they are not related, yet these things are not a mere hazard.