Originally posted by Cybe-Rider:

@Ornette - Here's how to fix the Discogs image issue. It's actually a different issue to the one this thread is about. Open this link in a new tab, which is a link to the image that currently won't display for you: -

http://s.pixogs.com/image/R-150-1818681-1246049032.jpeg

It'll say "403 - Forbidden". Right-click anywhere on the screen and choose "Edit Site Preferences...", then click on the Network tab and check the box next to "Send referrer information" and hit OK. Images will now work on Discogs again.

A late thanks for your advice. It works fine now with displaying the images.

But there is still one problem with Opera (12.16) that does not exist with Firefox. Unlike before this image display problem occured, I can no longer save discogs images to the hard drive, as the "Save image ..." context menu is missing. It is present in firefox on the same page.

None, the website displays the same "you're going to die if you don't upgrade" message regardless of what browser you use to access it.

That's not the case here. It doesn't show up in IE11, the latest FF and Chrome, or Opera 15+.

I would like to know which known security flaw Opera 12.16 has.

None, the website displays the same "you're going to die if you don't upgrade" message regardless of what browser you use to access it.

That leads you to browser-update.org.

I hope more sites don't start using that. It doesn't even look like a new initiative, based on the datedness of their blog anyway.

Java is different from JavaScript. Java is also used for "apps" embedded in web pages, but they tend to be larger, like games of remote control clients (still within the browser). Updating Java will not resolve issue with JavaScript because each browser's specific implementation of it will continue to be used.

But since in your case the slowdown was sudden, and extended beyond one particular site (as long as that site was not running in the background all the time), the issue may lie elsewhere. It could be that a plugin or an extension was installed recently. Extensions also run JavaScript, and can be just as slow as those from webpages. For this reason, an advertisement blocking extension is not recommended (over pure urlfilter, or a proxy). You can see the list of running extensions under Opera -> Extensions -> Manage...

Opera would launch alright and after that, it wasn't responding normally to anything. Not only a matter of which webpages visited, even just getting the Opera menu to appear, or launch a new tab, every single action required a wait so long (during which Opera was hanging and non-responsive) that by the time the screen was active again, it had usually forgotten what it was doing.

Definitely an Opera issue, Firefox has continued to work normally on the same system.

After reading the thread, I tried disabling JavaScript. That single change made Opera act normally ~ except that, of course, no page requiring JavaScript will work correctly, which is a definite problem. No video sites, no registration forms or buying features, such as using PayPal, no Captcha, etc.

Once I read here and discovered the JavaScript issue, I found that there were lots of threads from people who've just encountered this issue in the past couple of days, such as here, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19607558/javascript-is-not-working-in-opera . See the myriad related threads linked there.

At least this somewhat isolates the source of the issue. But what changed within the past day or so to cause this? I see someone mention a Java update, but my browser responded to disabling JavaScript. Would the Java update somehow impact functionality related to JavaScript?

Moreover, what is a secure and stable solution?

The site works in Opium and Firefox.

In this case 'supported' meant - doesn't work
Opera 18 isn't 100% either.

But I find to my disgust that Chrome works perfectly with FB. (The data-miners stick together). :down: Really didn't want to have to install that product. I think I can live with ditching both however.

I guess a cut-off for development on opera 12 will ensure that users migrate or leave, as the global website code-base isn't going to stop evolving.

Java script is active, Java is 7-45 & says it's all working correctly. Tried the security 'fix' above & no difference.
Guessing this started about a fortnight ago, & it's driving me crazy.
Seems like the best idea the help desk has is to install Chrome.... yeah thanks for that ...:yuck:

It might not be Operas' fault but something is definitely up!

Twitter has made a come back for me too.

me too, but, in others pages how pixiv.net I no see the images... testing... may be later...

Green Man Gaming is also inaccessible. It works fine in IE and Opera 18, but in Opera 12.16 if I try and log in or if I add something to my basket and try and go to the checkout stage, I got a "403: Forbidden" error.

It wasn't working for me either until I tried enabling 'Send referrer information' in the site preferences. Hope it works for you, too!

EDIT: And disabled Adblock. Having Ghostery still on doesn't seem to matter.

EDIT: I tried with Adblock on again and it worked; I have no idea.

What I meant in my 1st paragraph is that I would miss the "copy image address" Opera has in the right mouse button menu. Nothing much to most anyway, but it helps me to transfer some of my own things between Tumblr and Wordpress .

Firefox has that too: -

Originally posted by funksoulbro:

Originally posted by Cybe-Rider:

It is not a question of sports team loving, this tool is something useful and needed for our daily tasks.

For some on here, unfortunately it is a question of "sports team loving".

I would suggest giving Firefox a try. This morning I've been messing around trying to get it to work like Opera 12.16 using extensions and I've got back the majority of the functionality I need using the following: -

Add to Search Bar - Allows you to right-click in the search field of any website and add that site to your search engines.
All-in-one Gestures - Give you more powerful mouse gestures than are in Opera.
All-on-one Sidebar - Gives you a sidebar very similar to the one that's in Opera 12.16.
Context Search - Allows you to highlight something on a web page and search with any of your custom search engines.
Duplicate this tab - Not really needed, but makes it a bit easier to duplicate tabs and gives you a bunch of extra options.
Speed Dial - A more powerful speed dial than the one in Opera 12.16.
Undo Closed Tab Button - Gives you a button that opens the last closed tab, with a drop-down list that allows you to select from other closed tabs.

Those, combined with rearranging some buttons/toolbars, has given me a very close experience to that of Opera 12.16.

Thanks for that info, I have been putting off the daunting task of sorting the crappy extensions from the good and finding ones to replace old Opera's functionality. You have pretty good starting selection there. Doesn't quite look as aesthetically pleasing as Opera but does have some extra functionality. Mail client is my next thing to investigate.

Funksoulbro, thanks for your explanation, now I know that other renown browsers are following the great ideas Opera created. Or at least someone will create an app that will do it for them. What I meant in my 1st paragraph is that I would miss the "copy image address" Opera has in the right mouse button menu. Nothing much to most anyway, but it helps me to transfer some of my own things between Tumblr and Wordpress .

Yet the main thing for me is that it is working fine now. So I'll stick to my promise, and will continue to kick-ass in page loading time with it as usual.

No browser is flawless. I was trying another one they claimed it's light -a Slim... something... based on IE it seemed. Everything was going fine, a bit uglier than Opera, things looked fine though, till the moment I got to write a post title in a Blogger blog... Everything I tried, couldn't do it! Of course this is also a minor thing (who needs this?), well it's a definitely NO to me! But I guess that's what is going on with browsers nowadays, the perfect one is the one that works for you or you would never had it in first place. That's probably why some get attached to 11.64, I got attached to the last Opera that was working for me. Of course that someone will always find a replacement that will suit their needs and if it won't work will also find a way of making it work. For me it's just simple: it's a tool. I don't need the top notch full of apps I don't even knew existed. I need the one that works for me. If not I'll do all I can to make it work. You ask a mechanic, a carpenter, anybody. Replacing a tool you used in years and years isn't easy, no matter if someone tries to swap a chainsaw for your pocket knife to cut a log if you always cut logs with your pocket knife.

And now I'll leave you all and go back to having fun (until it crashes again). I'm sure that at least Opera forums are the best. Of course someone will try to dissuade me and tell me also there I'm wrong... :cheers:

To those of you considering changing to another browser I just leave two challenges:

1 - Try to copy an image that has an hyper-link to somewhere else and see how easy it might be in some other browser. In Opera that's one click away.

I'm not sure what you mean by that?

Originally posted by Cybe-Rider:

2- Try to revert to a page you've been before and accidentally closed from which you can't recall the address. (it happens to silly me every day!)

I'm using an extension in Firefox called "Undo Closed Tabs Button". It gives you a button in the toolbar and if you click it, it opens the last closed tab, but if you click the drop-down arrow next to the button, you get a list of lots of recently closed tabs. You can set how many recently closed tabs you want it to remember, from 0-99. It also allows you to restore all closed tabs with one click.

To be honest, I'm finding that Firefox extensions give me more flexibility and functionality than Opera in quite a few areas. For example, I'm using a speed dial extension that is WAY better than the speed dial in Opera. It allows me to create groups and switch between them with buttons. The groups include recently closed tabs and most visited. I can choose what happens when I click a speed dial icon, so I can have it open in the foreground in a new tab, in the background, or in the current tab. If I go to the most visited, I can view by most visited today, this week or this month. I can customise the fonts and colours. I can protect my speed dial with a pass code so no other users can view it. The list goes on.

@Ornette - Here's how to fix the Discogs image issue. It's actually a different issue to the one this thread is about. Open this link in a new tab, which is a link to the image that currently won't display for you: -

http://s.pixogs.com/image/R-150-1818681-1246049032.jpeg

It'll say "403 - Forbidden". Right-click anywhere on the screen and choose "Edit Site Preferences...", then click on the Network tab and check the box next to "Send referrer information" and hit OK. Images will now work on Discogs again.

The issue this thread is about does affect Discogs too though. If you go into your private messages on Discogs, for example, the stylesheet won't load and the page won't display correctly. The same with other secure areas of the site.

To those of you considering changing to another browser I just leave two challenges:

1 - Try to copy an image that has an hyper-link to somewhere else and see how easy it might be in some other browser. In Opera that's one click away.

2- Try to revert to a page you've been before and accidentally closed from which you can't recall the address. (it happens to silly me every day!)

Of course a browser is a browser and they do almost the same, all of them. The difference might just lie in this small details which for some might be priceless. Apart from the fact that should you have some legacy hardware hanging somewhere Opera might be the only one light enough to have it going as a fairly good experience.

Also Opera doesn't get bundled into your system once you install it which is always a great thing should windoze get itchy.

And I bet most of the quitters also won't miss Dragonfly, actually all dragons can fly, and what's the use, right?...

Another site that doesn't display images correctly since a few days is Discogs

http://www.discogs.com/Groundhogs-Split/master/101396

No cover images are displayed. The site works fine with other browsers.

Disabling OCSPValidateCertificates, refreshing Twitter, and then enabling OCSPValidateCertificates -- allows you to have a mostly-working Twitter (some images missing) for a while...seemingly until you restart Opera. That's a decent compromise for now.

It is not a question of sports team loving, this tool is something useful and needed for our daily tasks.

For some on here, unfortunately it is a question of "sports team loving".

I would suggest giving Firefox a try. This morning I've been messing around trying to get it to work like Opera 12.16 using extensions and I've got back the majority of the functionality I need using the following: -

Add to Search Bar - Allows you to right-click in the search field of any website and add that site to your search engines.
All-in-one Gestures - Give you more powerful mouse gestures than are in Opera.
All-on-one Sidebar - Gives you a sidebar very similar to the one that's in Opera 12.16.
Context Search - Allows you to highlight something on a web page and search with any of your custom search engines.
Duplicate this tab - Not really needed, but makes it a bit easier to duplicate tabs and gives you a bunch of extra options.
Speed Dial - A more powerful speed dial than the one in Opera 12.16.
Undo Closed Tab Button - Gives you a button that opens the last closed tab, with a drop-down list that allows you to select from other closed tabs.

Those, combined with rearranging some buttons/toolbars, has given me a very close experience to that of Opera 12.16.

I asked about this on Opera's Facebook page. I mentioned that users are having issues with Twitter, Tumblr etc. and asked if they would be releasing a fix. They deleted my post within minutes.

You mean this one, or this one, or this one? Why would them only censor you?

In the meantime I'm probably taking Pesala's suggestion and rolling back to 11.64. I'm not quiting the real Opera (the real thing!) until it is clear Opera team does. I have hope in good sense and believe that, after all the big issues I saw Opera going by through the years, proceeding with the 12.16 would be the chalenge to take. Either that or keep the 17 in the shelf until it could proove to be something as brilliant as 12.16 was (is), instead of a poor copy of something that already exists and that most traditional Opera users really seem to hate for a reason or another. It is not a question of sports team loving, this tool is something useful and needed for our daily tasks.