SECURITY CONCERN - Opera fraud check requests
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luctur last edited by
It's been nearly a year and this problem has not been solved!
Maybe, they simply don't want to solve it.
Other browsers have unique browser ids that is not clear how they are used and where and how long data is stored.
Simply privacy is not a high priority for many browser vendors.
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browzer1 last edited by
Let's see what version 30 brings.
If the option to disable is not included, some people will simply switch to something else.
This feature (option) could be implemented with an hour of programming time.
If Opera refuses, then there is something going on behind the scenes.
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luctur last edited by
It's been nearly a year and this problem has not been solved!
Maybe because it's not considered a problem.
I think so too, but it should.
The current approach maybe unlawful according to European Union laws, because data are sent outside the Union without any knowledge of a large part of the users who live there and use Opera.
Pay attention, I don't say Opera is doing something unlawful with those data, but not giving detailed info about how those data are managed and stored is nevertheless an infraction.
Everything I know about this issue is written in this thread and I cannot consider it a "official statement" from Opera.
However, each modern browser has serious privacy problems while managing a big amount of "personal data" outside the European Union (open source ones like Firefox too).
Even Vivaldi will add in the future a unique id to the browser in order to track what users do while on line, though it should have an option to deactivate it. This info is taken from Vivaldi dev blog.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
The current approach maybe unlawful according to European Union laws, because data are sent outside the Union without any knowledge of a large part of the users who live there and use Opera.
Well, EULA (browser://about/eula) and Privacy Policy (browser://about/privacy) says something about data being collected, even by third parts.
Everything I know about this issue is written in this thread and I cannot consider it a "official statement" from Opera.
Well, i don't think there will be one.
However, each modern browser has serious privacy problems while managing a big amount of "personal data" outside the European Union (open source ones like Firefox too).
What kind of personal data? An url is not a personal data.
Even Vivaldi will add in the future a unique id to the browser in order to track what users do while on line
Welcome to the real world.
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luctur last edited by
Well, EULA (browser://about/eula) and Privacy Policy (browser://about/privacy) says something about data being collected, even by third parts.
Thanks, for the info.
What kind of personal data? An url is not a personal data.
A single URL surely is not, but multiple URLs sent during a browsing session tied to an IP address surely is.
I don't know if the sitecheck server logs or not the IPs and the sent URLs, but even if it doesn't, users should know what is happening in a detailed manner.
Welcome to the real world.
Oh, well, I know since long time that what is called "free" not always is such.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
A single URL surely is not, but multiple URLs sent during a browsing session tied to an IP address surely is.
I don't think so. For me an url itself will never be a considered a personal data.
I don't know if the sitecheck server logs or not the IPs and the sent URLs, but even if it doesn't, users should know what is happening in a detailed manner.
I've found this
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Opera's Fraud and Malware Protection and your privacy
The server used for Opera's Fraud and Malware Protection does not save your IP address or any other information related to your identity. There are no cookies related to the use of this feature. By default, Opera Fraud and Malware Protection is enabled. With Opera Fraud and Malware Protection enabled, the domain name of websites you visit is sent to Opera's Fraud and Malware Protection server together with a hash of the domain name. HTTPS sites are checked via an encrypted channel, while IP addresses on the local intranet will never be checked.
Opera's Fraud and Malware Protection server does not save your IP address or any other information related to your identity. There are no cookies or other session information. Anonymized, aggregated data pertaining to the most popular >domains may however be stored in order to improve our products and services.
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Oh, well, I know since long time that what is called "free" not always is such.
In fact, such thing as privacy never really existed in this world if we think about it.
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mtu346 last edited by
Even Vivaldi will add in the future a unique id to the browser in order to track what users do while on line, though it should have an option to deactivate it. This info is taken from Vivaldi dev blog.
https://vivaldi.net/en-US/blogs/teamblog/item/28-snapshot-1-0-167-2-better-keyboard-shortcut-editing-and-user-statistics.
"We do not collect any usage data."
"...every 24 hours, your browser, if running, will send via https, the following info:- The unique user ID
- Browser user agent
- CPU architecture
- Screen Resolution
- Accept Language "
So it's nothing serious.
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browzer1 last edited by
Leo ... thanks for the link. The statement "Note that checking against the database does not delay the opening of webpages."
is encouraging.
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OHN1 last edited by
5/20/2016. I just received my first warning that Opera checks for fradulent websites through a third-party. With that, as I attempt to log into Gmail through Opera, as I have done daily for years, I am told that Gmail is a fraudulent website and may obtain passwords and information from me.
Is this the same thing being discussed in this thread and the previous related thread.
I enjoy the smooth operation of Opera... but this one has me ready to jump ship and find another browser.
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Do they check every website I visit?
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Why would Gmail (google) just today show up as a fraudulent site after years of never seeing such a warning?
Thanks for any input or direction.
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greypie last edited by
This is the message on my screen when I go to Gmail:
Fraud warning
This site may be hacked or fraudulent. Giving it passwords or personal information could put you at risk for identity theft or financial fraud.
Opera Software strongly discourages visiting this page.
Would it be possible for a solution to this problem to be given?
Thank you
R
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
- Do they check every website I visit?
AFAIK, yes, but not all the time. The address is checked against a database.
- Why would Gmail (google) just today show up as a fraudulent site after years of never seeing such a warning?
Because just today it was included in one of the third part databases used by Opera for the pishing and malware protection.
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tumbleweed8 last edited by
Today I started getting the same Fraud Alert for any of the Google sites I try i.e., Calendar, Gmail, etc.
What is going on?
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by admin
Today I started getting the same Fraud Alert for any of the Google sites I try i.e., Calendar, Gmail, etc.
What is going on?See this topic
