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    • donq
      donq last edited by

      I'm not Opera dev of course, but:

      Anyway devs, if you blindly deny any suggestions without any second thoughts...

      Ah c'mon, devs do not deny blindly any suggestions. Have you developed complex software and especially reimplemented it from scratch on new platform? I have and I can assure that this is really nasty task (and may even kill your company, if your only income comes from this software). At first you have to make basic things work, then you need to find something to offer for new customers and then you discover, that many of your old customers are really pissed off, because every one of them did use some seemingly uninmportant (and different for each case) option, which you decided not to include into new version initially. And then you count, how many human years it actually took to implement all this into old version and wonder, what to do next, how to make your old users happy, what changes to reimplement first, what later, what keep on waiting-forever list and so on and so on.

      Situation looks very similar to me with the new Opera.

      Sorry for off-topic.

      On tabs - I would also welcome reimplementing taskbar, where I could see either tab address or title (or even both) while hovering tab caption. Yes, this makes looking at tab caption somewhat harder (tabs and taskbar are located far away), but for quick check for hitting correct tab it works for me in older Opera very well.

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      • what-is-this
        what-is-this last edited by

        @donq, I know what you mean. Anyway my post was pointed at @ruario as he said "The problem is already solved." which is pure bull$hit. Tabs menu is not a solution for tabs management. I will keep repeating it forever.

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        • what-is-this
          what-is-this last edited by

          Only 2 people commented on my suggestion, all other went off topic... And Opera employee completely ignored my idea probably without even looking at my images. And bringing topic about tab previews which has nothing to do with my suggestion, and by review on blog results that people don't even like it... I've admitted my mistake about menu, but my point still stands, menu is uncomfortable and probably it's rarely used by anyone. Is there any moderator who can clean that up? Leave just first 2 comments and please people, don't bring up the features that are already there, because it's a feature request/suggestion and not a problem solving section.

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          • leocg
            leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

            and please people, don't bring up the features that are already there, because it's a feature request/suggestion and not a problem solving section.

            Well, if someome suggests something that is, somehow, already covered by a existing feature, people for sure can reply pointing out that feature and the one who made the suggestion is free to agree or not like you did.

            The main target of this Suggestion's forum is to discuss about the suggested features and try to show to developers how they (the suggested features) may be useful for most users and not just for a few.

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            • leocg
              leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

              Now talking about your suggestion, it seems to be another way to see a tab's title which is already covered by tab menu and tab preview imho. In fact you can see them just by hovering the mouse on the tab.

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              • what-is-this
                what-is-this last edited by

                Not really, it's how you switch tabs. Menu is a 2 click solution, and when you have more tabs you have to scroll as well. As for tabs preview, it covers your actual page, and when you accidentally hover over the tabstrip it gets annoying. So I guess disabling tabs preview on default was a good choice 🙂

                The other way to see tab's title is a hint which is already there, but first one shows with a default system's delay time. I said before it's 400ms, but it's actually 1000ms. If Opera uses CToolTipCtrl they can use CToolTipCtrl::SetDelayTime function to set it to a very low value.
                But I don't know if Opera folks would even apply this. It appears they don't listen to a mere humans 😛

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                • donq
                  donq last edited by

                  There seems to be need for some translation [between users and developers and bystanders] 🙂

                  I hope I can get this right - problem is that there doesn't exist quick, simple and unobtrusive way to identify tab title (and/or page address). what-is-this suggested solution(s) to this problem. Ruari misunderstood problem core and offered solutions to different (although related) problem, we all others started to comment on various less or more off-topic side questions.

                  Like it always goes on internet forums 🙂

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                  • what-is-this
                    what-is-this last edited by

                    I hope I can get this right - problem is that there doesn't exist quick, simple and unobtrusive way to identify tab title (and/or page address).

                    Yes. And thank you 🙂

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                    • leocg
                      leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                      Currently you can hover tha mouse on a tab and see its title, so the only difference in the suggestion would be the animation.

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                      • gustavwiz
                        gustavwiz last edited by

                        Yes, that's exactly what this suggestion is about! 🙂

                        And I would prefer it this way, as it would look more clearly and be faster. Of course it can be optional for those who don't like it.

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                        • what-is-this
                          what-is-this last edited by

                          The only problem with this approach is when you go to the sides of the screen. Tabs should squeeze then to the opposite direction. For example, when you hoover over tabs on the left, tabs would squeeze to the right.
                          EDIT: And one more problem, it would be hard to "catch" x-close button, because movement would be proportional to quantity of tabs in the strip. But anyway I still think it's not that bad idea. And I'm happy you like it 🙂

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