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    • Deleted User
      Deleted User last edited by

      I use Opera 20 and it is more stable than Chrome (I used that fpr a long time), as Leushino said, the features will be added soon. We have to wait. It does not help saying that the new opera sucks. it does not work and bla bla bla.

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      • indonesian
        indonesian last edited by

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        **Hallo Opera I like to get my Opera Voice back and the copy to & from notes feature!

        Two individual extensions for it will do just fine in all regards! **

        All I can say is this; in regards of the never ending rat race into infinity!

        Evolve & stop competing!

        ** DON'T COMPETE BUT JUST STAY UNIQUE!**

        Uniqueness was in my view which made Opera browser what is was .........

        Now they again just getting sucked or forced into the ever more boring competition & political games and all they will be in the end is just one of the boring flock!

        What made Opera unique they taken right out of the new Opera 22\23

        The crack happened in my view the day they taken the unique TTS voice function out of there browser with the 12 version.

        Why did they even do it?? .......... No one could be so irresponsible if there are not greater powers steering the boat in the background!

        Even some of the replacement Notepads having TTS function included .........
        Opera started with it & now they dumped it & there super browser version 23 has lost his number one uniqueness & a notepad have the function build in?

        NO no ........ I say nothing is coincidental in this world & everything has a bigger evilness behind it to destroy all of uniqueness!

        My prediction is ......... not long and Opera will just end up with the same shit product as the Chrome browser 350 MB download for starters? BIG THUMB DOWN ON THAT ONE!

        Opera already moves into the same direction for (ver. 10,11, 12) ~10 to 20 MB full program plus 10 MB for two a grade speak voice nowhere to be found ........ now its already 45 MB base download for the Opera 22/23.

        (BECOMES ONE OF THE FLOCK!!) or has maybe sold his hard already ......... because the word Chrome stands on top of the Opera name!

        So as always 1 + 1 = 2 No guys don't get me wrong ....... all I would like to see is that Opera stays unique!!

        So I have to agree with the OP @ender-go & add one more version ....... From Opera 11.60 to 12 to 20...a giant leap back for mankind!!

        ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

        ONE:
        Where is my Opera most clear voice Speech TTS; ........... give it back to Opera & yes the same voice one which was unique and absolute perfect! (10MB) only!

        Why did Opera team did not give us there original voice in a Extension form ..... NO PROBLEM AT ALL>>> If I would know how to right the Script for it to use the original Plugin I would do it myself & give it back to the World of Opera users & this way through an extension it could be used for all coming versions of Opera!

        It was the voice type which made it unique for Opera not that there was a speech function! Give us back the Voice & your original Copy to & from Notes in an Extension format! >>>

        PERFECT & WHY COULD IT NOT BE DONE OR WAS DONE IN THE FIRST PLACE & FOR STARTERS IS A MYSTERY TO ME?

        One nice Extension with some of these file being included!!!

        Then you call the extension (THE TRUE ORIGINAL VOICE OF OPERA IS BACK)

        I wished someone could make himself the effort to create the extension which would return the old familiar Opera voice.

        And one more extension with the copy to & from Notes feature!

        I only have basics for script code creation so I cant do it; ....... would love to do it though! ........
        Many will love you for it if the Opera team himself could not handle such task on them own?

        Here are all the file names involved to created the two original voices & some code written within the opera.dll to get it functional !
        But if I'm not wrong the Plugin is is already designed to stand on its own!

        Where did opera got the original from in the first place?
        Which vendor caries these voices??

        ** E1FKAL00.LE",0,"5.2 MB","01/03/2013" **

        **>>>>>> E1MKAN00.LE",0,"5.5 MB","01/03/2013" **

        ecictts.dll",0,"704 kB","01/03/2013" ecienus.syn",0,"1.7 MB","01/03/2013" ecissml.dll",0,"192 kB","01/03/2013" en-us.bin",0,"1.2 MB","01/03/2013" prondict.ini",0,"307 B","01/03/2013" ready.pcm",0,"1.1 kB","01/03/2013" vxm.dll",0,"920 kB","01/03/2013"
        vxmconfig.ini",0,"7.7 kB","25/03/2014" vxmdict_en-us.ini",0,"334 B","01/03/2013" vxmplugin.dll",0,"112 kB","01/03/2013" vxmservices.dll",0,"1.2 MB","01/03/2013" "vxmstrings_en-us.ini",0,"1.2 kB","01/03/2013" "xmlparse.dll",0,"34.5 kB","01/03/2013"

        **TWO: **
        Where is the COPY-TO & PAST-FROM Notes menu feature gone too? & you could back it up by just copying the file (notes.adr) which was in basic text format too & not in Hex format as in all the extensions now ...........

        ==================================

        People need a browser ........ & not competition! >>>> Competition is for idiots!

        Your best Friend will never lie to you!

        Link:
        http://truth-zone.co.uk/forum/internet-and-information-technology/63844-a-general-computer-tip-hints-help-fixes-questions-suggestions-solutions-ideas-html-code-bbcode-etc.html?start=40#120012

        http://truth-zone.co.uk/forum/internet-and-information-technology/63844-a-general-computer-tip-hints-help-fixes-questions-suggestions-solutions-ideas-html-code-bbcode-etc.html?start=40#120012

        Something wrong entering Links here???

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        • A Former User
          A Former User last edited by

          IIRC Voice was removed from Opera because it was a third party product that was no longer supported by its originators.
          That's not to say that Opera could not have probably found an alternative, but presumably they decided that its level of usage didn't warrant that.
          🙂

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          • sanfloriani
            sanfloriani last edited by

            Having used Opera since Netscape disappeared (1999?), I agree with all the negative comments expressed above. HELP is ridiculous, user-friendly features like customisable toolbars have disappeared, no way of opening a local HTML file from the browser, no viewable cache, etc. etc. - the list of my complaints is much, much longer.

            Fortunately I had kept an installable copy of Opera 9, so I'm using it more and more frequently in lieu of this sorry new release.

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            • zoombee
              zoombee last edited by

              I've being using Opera for 14+ years and it's been my preferred browser for it's great set of features that are present until v.12.17. Since Opera decided to discontinue all those features and a Desktop interface (I use Win 8.1) and support for Opera 12.17, I can only say good bye and move on to Firefox. It's a damn shame!

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              • A Former User
                A Former User last edited by

                The windows to sites (I'm sorry, I don't know their name in English) were easily available...

                Did you mean page icons in the Speed Dial?

                All in all, I really don't want to use Chrome 20 ever again, and will just wait for Opera 13 with a new engine or something, that would be more compatible with more demanding sites.


                And myself personally have a Chrome as well - which suffices the need for Chrome;)

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                • rockstarkenny
                  rockstarkenny last edited by

                  Agree that Opera 12 where last good version of Opera. All version from 15 to 23 are experimental an incomplete. I just finished an fresh install of win7 64 and have used Opera 22 at my personal computer before the new win install. Just found out the Opera Link wont work in Opera 23. To have my bookmarks and speed dials are important to me and I have to figure out Opera Link and synch work again and again in every new version Opera releases.

                  So this is a goodbye from me to Opera. I don`t want a web browser that is experemental, incomplete and would give me a new grey hair in every new (stable) version that gets released. To me, Opera is way less user friendly after version 12.

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                  • lem729
                    lem729 last edited by

                    Just copy your profile every now and then. It's simple to do, and no big deal.

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                    • rockstarkenny
                      rockstarkenny last edited by

                      Youre right its not a big deal, but that`s the whole point with Opera Link that Opera does that kind of things for me.

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                      • A Former User
                        A Former User last edited by

                        Kenny, don't use backtick quotes - they create showing the code here on these forums, use apostrophes.

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                        • rockstarkenny
                          rockstarkenny last edited by

                          I may be banned for this, but this is how I write on other forums. If Opera forums cant handle that, thats just another reason to quit using Opers browser.

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                          • A Former User
                            A Former User last edited by

                            Don't be ridiculous! There are codes. And apostrophe is apostrophe.

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                            • quarter9ie
                              quarter9ie last edited by

                              Times has changed and so did Opera, but honestly the new Opera is horrible, sad, void but at least is 0.35 seconds more fast with less strange alien look options! What is a shortcut? Viva la simplicity! (for your average user)

                              What I think is really ironic is how Opera (Presto) was ahead in functionality and looked like everybody was trying to copy ideas from it but Opera remained as an obscure browser.

                              I really appreciate the effort you do ranting about the new Opera, but our Swiss army browser is lost, un-appreciated and has no future with the current "friendly" trends.

                              Maybe this wouldn't happen if the marketing team had taught the normal user how to make us of the advance options in Opera Presto.

                              I'm still using Opera 12.17 and Firefox for page compatibility.

                              But we do still have hope and I hope more people is willing to help this project:
                              http://sourceforge.net/projects/otter-browser/

                              "Every end is a new beginning"

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                              • kesetrum
                                kesetrum last edited by

                                I like this "DON'T COMPETE BUT JUST STAY UNIQUE!" 🙂
                                One short question folks, is there any way to delete "individual cookies for some site, rather than delete all cookies?"
                                In the past Opera 12, We can do this easily. Even modified the cookies itself

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                                • lem729
                                  lem729 last edited by

                                  One short question folks, is there any way to delete "individual cookies for some site, rather than delete all cookies?"
                                  In the past Opera 12, We can do this easily. Even modified the cookies itself

                                  You can do it with an extension. You might try the Opera add-on, EditThisCookie. https://addons.opera.com/en/extensions/details/edit-this-cookie/?display=en

                                  There are more possibilities if you look at Chrome extension. Click@Clean (a Chrome extension) has the feature you want, along with a lot of other features. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/clickclean/ghgabhipcejejjmhhchfonmamedcbeod

                                  If you don't want all of the features, and just want to look for a specific Cookie Manager
                                  extension, you might like Vanilla Cookie Manager. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/vanilla-cookie-manager/gieohaicffldbmiilohhggbidhephnjj?hl=en
                                  I've only done a very quick look, so there may well be more possibilities out there.

                                  To download a Chrome extension easily, you need the Opera extension, called Download Chrome Extension, https://addons.opera.com/en/extensions/details/download-chrome-extension-9/?display=en

                                  or Extension Source Viewer, https://addons.opera.com/en/extensions/details/extension-source-viewer/

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                                  • pu67pal
                                    pu67pal last edited by

                                    I am using Opera web and mobile browser since 2004, yeah pretty 10 years from now. This is one of the best browser internet today have. On a readers survey on my career and jobs news website Employment News , 90% mobile phone users and 60% smartphone users has Opera as their primary web browser.

                                    I am happy to see innovations happened in Opera community these days.

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                                    • Deleted User
                                      Deleted User last edited by

                                      Hi
                                      thanks for Opera company
                                      i use opera from ver 4
                                      i have all email archive in opera mail
                                      i have more than 1000 rss feed reader in opera
                                      i have history from 10 years ago
                                      i have more more good times with opera 12
                                      why you dont support opera 12
                                      opera 12 not a browser its my "net Home"
                                      please again Support opera 12
                                      opera 20 very very bad idea.

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                                      • leocg
                                        leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                        [Mod note: useless offensive comment removed]

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                                        • Deleted User
                                          Deleted User last edited by

                                          Hi
                                          thanks for Opera company
                                          i use opera from ver 4
                                          i have all email archive in opera mail
                                          i have more than 1000 rss feed reader in opera
                                          i have history from 10 years ago
                                          i have more more good times with opera 12
                                          why you dont support opera 12
                                          opera 12 not a browser its my "net Home"
                                          please again Support opera 12
                                          opera 20 very very bad idea.

                                          They won't support, deal with it.

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                                          • lock0206
                                            lock0206 last edited by

                                            i have both the new opera and opera 12.00

                                            out of the 2 i prefer opera 12.00. this is due to the fact that so much of it i can change to my own customizations. yes it is now becoming laggy, behind the times. but cause it has so many of my own customizations which help and i cannot seem to work out how to do it on the new opera's...

                                            if anyone here plays the game Tribal Wars then you will know that opera 12.00 is as far the best browser there is for the game.

                                            however like this game and many over organizations they are moving away from the older browsers to newer ones, which are pushing there players to stop playing.

                                            what we want is the Opera Team to see that they need to add the old settings back into the new browsers.

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