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    • Deleted User
      Deleted User last edited by

      My point, we need to whine. Whining is essential for progress. Even if opera turn a blind eye there will be other people who wants to bring back opera to it's original form, maybe through open source.

      if you want to whine, fine, just do it, but you do not need to say like "the new browser sucks", say what you want in the new version. As you can see, it is taking time to the devs realese a update, maybe it will have big changes now

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      • lem729
        lem729 last edited by

        I must admit I never used a lot of the super customization. I prefer to have the faster minimalist browser, that will be better able to access sites, with much greater availability of extensions. And I do like some of the new features -- Speed Dial (with folders), Discover, Off Road Mode . . . But no one is wrong about this, EXCEPT 🙂 sidneyneto is right: it would be nice if people stopped trashing Opera blink, and just talked about what they would most like added to it (the top priorities for them) (let's be real). A free browser can't be everything for everyone. And some of the priority needs may be able to come with extensions. Why not? And it's more likely to show up in the Opera store, if Opera does well with Opera blink, and holds or increases its following. Undermining and trashing Opera in the forum discourages new users before they've really tried the browser. And some of these new users may not even have a need for the super customization -- are just looking for a fast, attractive browser, and may be discouraged by some of the flaming in the forum here, and then will look for a browser elsewhere. And a less viable Opera -- which loses people like that -- will be in less of a position (financially or otherwise) to add customization features. A browser succeeding in holding and/or increasing its market share may be able to do more.

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        • Deleted User
          Deleted User last edited by

          Just for your information..

          What you call "whining" can be a constructive activity.

          It is perfectly alright to object to and complain about things you do not like.

          Then, when you have done that, sometimes the only choice is to talk away (stop using it).

          But there is no point in walking away before you have voiced your opinion.

          More to the point: I said in a different topic:

          Opera 12 is a Power Mac / Mac Pro.
          Opera 2x is a Mac Mini.

          When Apple introduced the Mac Mini, did they call it "Mac Pro version 20"? No, of course not. And you can still buy a Mac Pro, next to a Mac Mini.

          Point being that Opera Next and Opera Classic are two different products and deserve separate development, while using the same new rendering engine.

          Opera Classic can use a user interface overhaul too, by the way. But Opera Classic is a power tool.

          So what I'm saying is: instead of demanding power features for Opera Next, demand a revamp of Opera Classic.

          And demand that they stop using the same version system for two different products. Opera Next is not Opera Classic version 20!!!!!

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          • Deleted User
            Deleted User last edited by

            Opera Classic, as you put it, will NOT be revamped. It's over and done with - dead in a word. There is no way the company is going to reverse its decision at this point so get used to that fact. The reality is this: Opera has retooled... many of the former devs are gone AND those who have remained have either been reassigned OR were behind the change in the first place. Remember what Haavard told us: this was NOT a business decision but rather one instituted by the developers themselves. As I see it, there are only a few reasonable paths to take:

            • keep the older Presto version and run the newer version along with it (this would include making feature suggestions in the Suggestion forum as well as in the developer blogs
            • throw your support solely behind the new version and try and duplicate as many missing features as you need by adding extensions from both Opera and the Chrome store
            • finding another browser such as Firefox or Seamonkey which will come as close to your former Presto browser as possible.

            Whining here and in particular ridiculing the Opera Team and demeaning their efforts by renaming the browser only ensures your views will be dismissed and in the end will prove counter-productive.

            Oh... and yes. I'm being paid boat loads of money by Opera.

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            • Deleted User
              Deleted User last edited by

              You come across as really confused, leushino. Or maybe it is me who is confused, because you are confusing the heaven into me. 😉

              What are you bitching about Suggestion forums and developer blogs? What does a user's choice have to do with development paths? Each person has its own setup, and that is wholly unrelated to any form of development or improvement.

              I really think you are just expressing a "boat load" of frustration about the way Opera has gone. Yeah, you think you are frustrated with users who are complaining, but that's not what's really going on.

              "We made a choice and if you don't like it and express that you don't like it, I'm gonna sulk and call you a meanie".

              Boy, you really believe that Opera users owe you their allegiance and loyalty and are required by moral law to support you in your attempt to outdo Microsoft with their fabulous Windows 8 "let's see how hard we can really fuck with our users" strategy.

              Repeating the mantra that "A decision has been made and it's not ever going to change" does not suddenly make you look like a smart guy. Quite the opposite.

              Someome needs to tell you that you are messing up. Ideally, thousands of people. And this is what they are doing. Now go back to bed and mommy will tell you a story that does have a happy ending.

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              • A Former User
                A Former User last edited by

                hmm.. i need to open this link", right click context menu then "open", "what!?" there's no "open" menu? only got "open link in...". So technically i need to close previous tab each time to get to the links i need.
                Do you know how to click with the left mouse button?

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                • Deleted User
                  Deleted User last edited by

                  The lack of the |open| option is pretty irritating. Left click opens in a new tab based on the web site code however in Presto there was always the option to over-ride web site code to the pleasure of the person browsing.

                  I am still trying Next as a primary browser however it is simply not up to snuff. It's quite saddening as Opera was once the best. 😞

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                  • leocg
                    leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                    Left click opens in a new tab based on the web site code however in Presto there was always the option to over-ride web site code to the pleasure of the person browsing.

                    Nope, there wasn't/isn't. The only way to do that was through an userjs, the "reuse current tab" option was not related to this.

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                    • A Former User
                      A Former User last edited by

                      Nope, there wasn't/isn't.
                      Nope, there was. The command @kersus mentioned works just like he/she said, it overrides "target=". Still, @elvennoia didn't mention this feature in his/her comment. 😛

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                      • leocg
                        leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                        Nope, there was. The command kersus mentioned works just like he/she said, it overrides "target=".

                        And which command was that?

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                        • A Former User
                          A Former User last edited by

                          The first one in hyperlinked text context menu (right-click), "Open".

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                          • leocg
                            leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                            The first one in hyperlinked text context menu (right-click), "Open".

                            Ah, right click. I thought we were talking about left click.

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