Favorite Places/Bookmarks

alex00752

alex00752

I probably will only use Opera to have quick access to my Yahoo mail account (I have 2 Yahoo Mail accounts and unlike Gmail, Yahoo only allows you to view (open) 1 Yahoo Mail account in a browser so I will use Mozilla and Opera to view my Yahoo accounts and also use Mozilla to "surf the Web" and use Gmail for my Gmail accounts and "surfing".

Too bad Opera came to the conclusion that Bookmarks/Favorite Places are no used but that's why then offer vanilla AND chocolate and I am sure that they know what they are doing.
Thank you for your help Leushino,
Bob

You can use Opera Mail for having multiple mail accounts at the same time, it's great.

lem729

lem729

@leushino

Thanks on your comments. The Opera extension is called, "Download Chrome Extension." Get that extension, and then you can download from the Chrome store. When you download something there, click on your Opera menu to open it, go to Extensions, and you will see the Chrome Extension you have just download, which needs you to click on Install.Click on intall, and you are "good to go"

I think you're right maybe that the Opera team didn't think people bookmark as much, but after the complaints about no bookmark toolbar, they added the capability. So suddenly with the voluminous possibilities to bookmark in the speed dial, and not the toolbar, as well as in extensions, they've created (by adding the capability of bookmarking in the personal bookmarks toolbar to what they had already put in Opera) the most extensive and varied way :)))) to bookmark the browsing world has ever seen. And yet, people still complain, there's no bookmarking here. It is beyond laughable.

Now there are some bookmarking nits I think they should fix. For example when you are at a website, I'd like a right click menu that gives you the ability to add the bookmark to the personal toolbar. As it is, you can right click to add to the Stash, or the Speed Dial, but not to the Personal bookmark toolbar. Of course, you can easily add it to the speed dial and drag it from there to the personal bookmark toolbar (or drag the icon on the far left of the address bar to the personal bookmarks toolbar), but I would add one more option on the context menu (its more intuitive since its already there for adding to the Speed Dial or to Stash) for the right click (now that they have added the personal bookmarks toolbar), so you can get the bookmark on the Personal bookmarks toolbar without needing to drag it.

And even more critical, Opera needs to make the importing of bookmarks from other browsers -- directly from Opera 12.17, IE, Firefox, Chrome, etc. -- easy. All the user should have to do is click on import, select the browser they want to import from, and it should be done. We have people from other browsers who want to use Opera, and are stymied by the "not few" hoops they have to jump through to get their bookmarks here.

Deleted User

Deleted User

Thanks for the information, lem. We're in a coffee shop right now (wife and I) and I'm on my iPad. Once I get home from shopping, I'll download that extension. If any problems present themselves, I'll let you know. Have a good one.

boblink

boblink

Hi Lem, you appear to be VERY passionate about Opera or work for them and/or own shares in the company, in any event I wish I had the same passion for ANYTHING as you do for Opera. I was able to download 12.17 and it wasn't quite so simple,I was able to download 923 Bookmarks. FYI, I use quite a few Websites and don't want to memorize them (I don't use all of them but I would guess that I use 50-75 at least once a week) so bookmarks ARE important to me. Also when I said that's why they have vanilla and chocolate it was not a comment on Opera per se, it was meant as, "one size does not fit all and why people are given choices.
But now that I uninstalled Opera 20 and installed Opera 12.17 (with Bookmarks), I am having difficulty upgrading 12.17 to Opera 20 and would appreciate your help.
Thanks Bob
P.S.- this is what's installed at the moment (I have aW7-64bit not 32bit)

About Opera
Version information
Version 12.17
Build 1863
Platform Win32
System Windows 7

lem729

lem729

Haha, no shares in the company or relationship at all to Opera. Don't know anyone there. I do like the Speed Dial a lot (the creation of folders in it), and that Opera 20 is faster, able to access sites better, is the browser that Opera intends to work on developing, and I enjoy playing with extensions, etc.

If you got the Opera 12 download on the Opera site, and they only gave 32 bits, I think it works fine with 64 bit Windows. They probably wanted you to use that one. I found some discussion at a website to the effect that the Opera 32 bit download is better than a 64 bit version..

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/opera.general/Es9UV640yOU

Anyway, all you want the Opera 12 for is to get the IE bookmarks and to move them to your Opera 20. Right? For Opera 20, there seems to be only one download at the top of the main windows of the site, so take that one.

http://www.opera.com/computer/windows

Install Opera 20. Then follow my instructions in my first post in this thread. Go to settings in that browser, click on browser, go to "User Interface" there, and put a check in "show the bookmarks bar" (and, if your items/folders don't show up, maybe won't, then download the Opera Extension that is a rudimentary bookmarks manager that is supposed to help with the migration. There are also the Chrome bookmark extensions like Chrookmarks, which you can get (by first downloading the Opera extension, "Download Chrome Extension." (That extension is what makes it possible to use Chrome extensions in an Opera browser). Then you go to the Chrome Store, download the Chrome extension, Chrookmarks, maybe, or Tidy Bookmarks. After you download the Chrome extension, click on your Opera 20 menu, click on extensions, and when you see the Chrome extension there, click install it. It's really easy. (It's possible just that Chrome extension will find your bookmarks for the activated bookmarks toolbar, and you may not have even needed that Opera Bookmarks manager). Now in getting my bookmarks from Opera 12 to Opera 20 it happened easily. I don't even think that I used the Opera Bookmarks Manager, but others in the forum seem to recommend it. Play around :))) It will work. Nothing ventured, nothing . . . Or post back.

boblink

boblink

Hi Lem, please let me know when Opera goes public, with devoid users like you it is sure to be a HUGH success. FYI, I was able to download v20 and also have v12.17, what I don't have is the Bookmarks from v12.17 on v20, (I tried all your suggestions but they didn't work) and have invested enough time for something that is an easy import with every other browser that I used, so I will live with what I have and hopefully I will find Opera to be a "speed demon" and will do away with Mozilla and Chrome.
Thank you again for your help Lem and good luck to you
Bob

lem729

lem729

"devoid"? (devoted?) (or devoid of common sense?) ;)))

I'm sorry it didn't work. I tried. I had bookmarks in Opera 12, and they easily went to opera 20, but they were not bookmarks that came from IE. Now that Bookmarks manager extension from Opera did have a rectangle when you opened it, for clicking "import.". Also the Chrookmarks extension in the Chrome store seemed to recognize what I had. Opera needs to make the importing issue much simpler. It's definitely a shortfall of Opera 20. You should't have to jump through hoops.

boblink

boblink

You have been VERY helpful Lem, may be they'll get enough feedback and add Bookmarks to the next release and it also seems strange that you don't UPGRADE from one version to another version but install the new version and uninstall the old version.
Anyway, I am using Opera but would use it MUCH more if I was able to import my Bookmarks and it should have been DEVOTED but for dyslectics like me, it came out "devoid".
Bob

lem729

lem729

Yes, they do need a better way to import bookmarks. Of course, the ability to make bookmarks is very much in Opera 20. Thanks so much, though, Boblink for your kind note.

blackbird71

blackbird71

Yes, they do need a better way to import bookmarks. Of course, the ability to make bookmarks is very much in Opera 20. ...

If I were "king" of Opera, the very highest of priorities would be placed on development of an effective means of importing user data into Opera directly from other browser brands. If Opera intends to grow its market share, that share will have to come from somewhere - and it will want/need to bring its data with it, whether or not Opera believes bookmarks are that major a deal. But if users can't easily bring in their favorite/bookmarked sites from other browsers, that barrier risks killing the deal for many of those users. A good product trying to win users from other products will strive to make their transition as painless and easy as possible... but Blink Opera, 9 months later, still has a glaring "import" defficiency. Now that Opera has a bookmark bar, that import deficiency seriously needs to be corrected.

lem729

lem729

@blackbird71

Absolutely. We can't ask users to jump through a thousand hoops to get their bookmarks into Opera 20.

alex00752

alex00752

I transfered my bookmarks from opera 12 to opera 20 whit the help of bookmark-importer option from "more tools" menu. It gives you the option to import opera 12 bookmarks to bookmark bar or to a single speed dial folder...

It will be nice for the bookmark bar to have a alternative display, for example a button in the area where extension buttons are. On a laptop 16:9 display 1366x768 you need all the vertical space you can get. Full screen also needs a auto hide bar for displaying and switching tabs.

lem729

lem729

@boblink

@alex00752

Perhaps, I missed that idea with boblink. The more tools menu and the "import" option. hmmm. Well, perhaps he'll stop back and look at this thread again.

lem729

lem729

@bonblink

@alex00752

It would be better if one could send a personal note -- say, Oh, yeah, I forgot, check the "More Tools," menu item, and click the Bookmarks importer. One could do that in the old days in the forum. Perhaps, they'll bring back that feature. I hope so.

lem729

lem729

@boblink

Haven't seem you in the forum lately. For importing bookmarks from Opera 12 into Opera 20, all you need to do is click on the Opera menu in the far top left, then click on "More Tools," and then on the Bookmark Importer.

Deleted User

Deleted User

The import bookmarks is not on my settings>more tools.

I want to import my bookmarks & favorites from firefox and IE8.

Deleted User

Deleted User

The import bookmarks is not on my settings>more tools.
I want to import my bookmarks & favorites from firefox and IE8.

How do I do this?

albatros48

albatros48

The import bookmarks is not on my settings>more tools.
I want to import my bookmarks & favorites from firefox and IE8.

How do I do this?

Quick answer: it's just not possible. One of the big missing functions.:-(

lem729

lem729

@longshotblues
@albatros48

You can do it. It's just a two step process.

(1) You have to first get your bookmarks from IE or Firefox in Opera 12. So you go to this link, scroll 2/3 down the page, and install Opera 12

http://www.opera.com/computer/windows

Then click on File (In Opera 12, Import and Export, and the click on Import from Internet Explorer, or Firefox.
Now you should have your bookmarks in Opera 12.

(2) I'm assuming you have Opera 20 installed already. If not download and install from the link above (at top of that page). In Opera 20, click on the File menu at the top left of the page, Click on Settings, Browser, and under User Interface, put a dot in Show the Bookmarks bar. Now click on in Opera 20 again the File menu at the top left of the page, click on more Tools, and click on Bookmark importer. And then choose to connvert the Opera 12 bookmarks into Opera 20. I would definitely convert to the bookmarks bar (which will run across the top of the browser), and use the Speed Dial for what you want to highlight/emphasize/give quick access to, but you have a choice.

I hope that helps Ignore some of the earlier material in this thread, as this issue has become clearer to me more recently. At some point you might want to add a bookmark manager extension but for the moment, see about getting the bookmarks transferred to the bookmarks bar.