Let's stop this war
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colderwinters last edited by
Hay, it keeps it at the top of the list, you wouldnt want it all the way on the bottom or page 2 would you ?
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Deleted User last edited by admin
WTF!!!!
Always people hijacking all threads with anger about new Opera, with dumb wishes about gifting Operas source code and browser patents to OpenSource!My hint 4 u: Discuss such nonsense in the Lounge at https://forums.opera.com/category/26/lounge
PLEASE!
If you want to troll, get an account at 4chan. There you can fullfill all your strange wishes.=:(
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findkfn last edited by
Lets see the bright side - do you know another piece of software where people still complaining about there discontinuation after now nearly a year ?
Must have been a very good software with no alternatives
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lem729 last edited by
Good point. And the new product is also very very good. It's just different pluses and minuses compared to the old product. Opera is a talented company. The little engine that could . . . Give the new browser a chance, findkfn . . .
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nightmaresoul last edited by
Ah, I see the rabble is out and about spreading lies, distortions and misinformation. One has to wonder why they continue to haunt a place they appear to hate so vehemently. Opera Presto is dead in terms of future development. Opera Blink is the new Opera. DEAL WITH IT.
`LueshinoThis is a prime example of missing the point. The Thread's name is "Let's Stop this War" yet calling people you disagree with rabble is not going to help that cause, as a matter of fact it very well could inflame the problem. Equally you state that they are spreading lies, distortions, and misinformation, yet offer no corrections or state what aspects of where the claims are false while providing citations to the accurate information. Also the Prestovists or old power users, do not hate Opera if they did then they would just walk already. It is simply that they loved Opera when it was Presto, and would like to see what they loved return in one fashion or another.
@Ersi
I think in general terms the Widgets failed to gain traction and a mass following of development from the user base. I could of course be incorrect about the three features your mentioning as they were not features I used; however I believe that when they phased out Widgets they implemented extensions at about the same time. As for Unite I believe they only changed its name or Turbo or possibly Dragonfly ? As for voice I remember its addition but do not recall it being functional the few times I attempted to play with it. Either or you have at least started something I was hoping someone would do which is helping to list all features of the Presto versions of Opera. As I think that with a viable list of all the power features found in Presto, Lem729 could potentially offer a list of extensions that may be able to at least mimic those features for 20 and help calm some of the anger and disappointment due to the loss of those native features.
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nightmaresoul last edited by
@Lem729
Sorry your my current extension Guru, so I may have just signed you up for a horribly tedious task. -
Deleted User last edited by
LOL... Let's see - according to the dictionary rabble means a: mob, crowd, throng, gang, swarm, horde, pack, mass and generally angry can be added as an appropriate adjective. Yes, indeed... we have among us a rabble who refuse to listen and simply whine on and on as though their whining will produce positive results. It won't. The so-called War is non-existent. Well, it exists insofar as there is disagreement between two groups but that is hardly a war. However, since the disagreement does exist (and in some cases it's downright nasty from the whining group), then here's a news flash for that gang. The War, as it were, is over. You've lost. Presto will not continue to be developed. Can you grasp that fact? Evidently while you enjoy likening yourselves to a power group of users, those who continue to complain and whine the loudest have difficulty grasping simple facts. So allow me to offer some constructive advice:
- Continue to use whatever version of Opera Presto you currently use and be content
- Install Opera 20+ alongside your current browser and watch its development with an OPEN MIND
- Find an alternate browser and be content
- Stop your whining, backbiting, blaming, prognosticating and just generally being tiresome trolls
There you go. And I won't even charge you for this advice. BTW... Opera 20 is awesome.
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colderwinters last edited by
Did this thread make it to page 2 yet ? Damn it's still the first one listed at the top
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Deleted User last edited by
Did this thread make it to page 2 yet ?
I have to admit to enjoying your sense of humor. In real life, I think we could sit down, have a beer and enjoy a few laughs.
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findkfn last edited by
A good beer and some reading in this forum and the blog is sometimes all you need to have some fun
Im feeling back in the old Amiga vs Atari days....
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linuxmint7 last edited by
Im feeling back in the old Amiga vs Atari days....
Amiga was best, and you know it.
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jito463 last edited by
I wish I still had my Commodore Amiga 2000. That was my first real computer (I'm not counting my sisters TRS-80, or the Commodore 64 I had), and the one I have the most fond memories of. I wouldn't trade it for what I have right now, but I would definitely love to fire it up again, and play some of the old classic games I had on it.
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lem729 last edited by
After -- burp -- the beers and camaraderie, we can go back to hurling hand grenades. @nighmaresoul. What a hoot!
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nightmaresoul last edited by
LOL... Let's see - according to the dictionary rabble means a: mob, crowd, throng, gang, swarm, horde, pack, mass and generally angry can be added as an appropriate adjective. Yes, indeed... we have among us a rabble who refuse to listen and simply whine on and on as though their whining will produce positive results. It won't. The so-called War is non-existent. Well, it exists insofar as there is disagreement between two groups but that is hardly a war. However, since the disagreement does exist (and in some cases it's downright nasty from the whining group), then here's a news flash for that gang. The War, as it were, is over. You've lost. Presto will not continue to be developed. Can you grasp that fact? Evidently while you enjoy likening yourselves to a power group of users, those who continue to complain and whine the loudest have difficulty grasping simple facts. So allow me to offer some constructive advice:
Continue to use whatever version of Opera Presto you currently use and be content
Install Opera 20+ alongside your current browser and watch its development with an OPEN MIND
Find an alternate browser and be content
Stop your whining, backbiting, blaming, prognosticating and just generally being tiresome trollsThere you go. And I won't even charge you for this advice. BTW... Opera 20 is awesome.
@Leushino, Actually that would be a thesaurus your quoting. The Dictionary would state the definition of Rabble like this "rabble noun
1.disorderly crowd; mob.
2.the rabble, the lower classes; the common people"
Which to call anyone who holds a differing opinion as a lower class is insulting. As for a mob it has a similarly less glorified definitions that are often the main interpretation to native speakers of the language. As for the term war, I will give you that this is not a war by common definition so much as a disagreement that leads to the concept of a flame-war upon the forums. Again however you are adding to the problem yet again by blaming the Prestovists, and then also calling them trolls. Although your first, and second pieces of advice are good,the third is a good portion of the aim of posts where the flame-wars have erupted. The Forth however isn't terribly helpful. Oh well..
Anyhow I'll take a Guinness, my old Amiga 1200..Hooray for Bards Tales.
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Deleted User last edited by
I think in general terms the Widgets failed to gain traction and a mass following of development from the user base. I could of course be incorrect about the three features your mentioning as they were not features I used; however I believe that when they phased out Widgets they implemented extensions at about the same time. As for Unite I believe they only changed its name or Turbo or possibly Dragonfly ? As for voice I remember its addition but do not recall it being functional the few times I attempted to play with it.
Voice didn't work for me either when it was first released, but there was improvement and I actually had it read to me at least one full book length of text. I used it every once in a while.
Unite had nothing to do with Turbo or Dragonfly. Unite was a sharing server with the ability to connect peer to peer. It had a few apps inbuilt, and users quickly built and shared more apps.
Wiedgets did not fail in any way. They had a large following among the user base and their discontinuation was a sore disappointment. The developers of widgets were, again users themselves. Opera thrived on user activism. Userjs was developed and shared by users. Skins were also developed and shared by users. Version 12 broke skins too.
Version 12 was a humiliating punch in the face of widget, skin, and Unite developers - who were all users doing free work. The company turned its back to voluntary activists who had been the cream of web-browsing world. And they also deleted their work and the wealth of knowledge that was in the old forums, blogs, widget, skins, unite, setup and userjs sharing sites.
It takes a pretty profound lack of conscience to do that. This company managed to pull it off.
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linuxmint7 last edited by
my old Amiga 1200..
I still have mine... somewhere. I may still even have my A500plus too. My, those were the days...
