Another missing passwords problem

pdw

pdw

My passwords seem to there but not visible to me. Like, I just logged onto this forum by providing the password(I never saw the popup to save it). I logged out and logged back in again automatically, so that means my password was saved. There are other sites, eg, Amazon and eBay that I'm auto logged into. But the settings/password doesn't show any passwords at all.
Where oh where did they go?
opera Version:85.0.4341.75

leocg

leocg Moderator Volunteer @pdw

@pdw Current version is 112, it has the same problem?

pdw

pdw @pdw

@pdw It doesn't appear anyone cares about this problem.

leocg

leocg Moderator Volunteer @pdw

@pdw So you don't see any saved passwords in the passwords manager?

pdw

pdw

I am automatically signed in to this forum(how, I do not know) so I must have a password.
No sites are listed, including opera. I have auto sign in checked(on).
searching for "passwords", the auto fill section shows a pop-up claiming 6 results.
The line shows "saved passwords will appear here" , but no passwords show.

That's all I know. Interesting that I'm logged in to Opera but no auto sign in entry shows for it.

leocg

leocg Moderator Volunteer @pdw

@pdw Have you ever saved any passwords in the passwords manager?

leocg

leocg Moderator Volunteer @pdw

@pdw If you didn't logout before, you will kept logged in until the related cookies expire.

pdw

pdw

I have been a user on Opera for over 20 years. Of course I have logged on and used the password manager all that time.

I just now logged off this forum and logged back on automatically. i have about 30+ tabs open and there are other sites that I;m logged on to.
But, I will say it again-I cannot see my passwords, with sites, in the settings under passwords. Obviously the passwords are there, just that I cannot view them.

leocg

leocg Moderator Volunteer @pdw

@pdw Then you (probably) have passwords saved in the passwords manager.

What does opera://password-manager/passwords shows?

pdw

pdw @leocg

@leocg Site cannot be reached.

This site can’t be reached
The webpage at chrome://password-manager/passwords might be temporarily down or it may have moved permanently to a new web address.

ERR_INVALID_URL

leocg

leocg Moderator Volunteer @pdw

@pdw There seems to be something wrong with your Opera installation/profile directory. Or, maybe, you are using and old version of Opera.

Are you checking on 112 or in 85? For 85 the address is different.

pdw

pdw @leocg

@leocg I gave my version right up front on the 1st post.
opera Version:85.0.4341.75

leocg

leocg Moderator Volunteer @pdw

@pdw And I replied that current version is 112 and asked if that version still shows the issue.

pdw

pdw

From Opera help about
Version:85.0.4341.75
Opera is up to date

burnout426

burnout426 Volunteer @pdw

@pdw That version is not up to date. It's from April of 2022.

The newest version at this moment is 112.0.5197.39 and is available at https://www.opera.com/download.

What version of Windows are you using?

Did you get Opera from the Microsoft App Store? If so, that version is old and won't update to anything new. You need a regular installation.

There were some changes starting with Opera 100. Opera 100+ builds have some code to migrate old profiles. However, I'm not sure they will upgrade such an old build as 85 correctly.

First, you should make a test standalone installation of Opera 112 to a folder named "Opera Test" on your desktop.

In the test Opera, goto the URL opera://about, take note of the "profile" path and close that Opera. Do the same for your regular Opera.

What you'll want to do is copy (not move) the "Login Data" and "Local State" files from your 85 profile to the 112 profile and choose to replace the existing ones in the Opera 112 profile. Then, start Opera 112 (opera.exe in the "Opera Test" folder on your desktop), goto the URL opera://password-manager/passwords and see if your passwords are there.

Now, for your Opera 85, even if your passwords are not showing, goto the URL opera://settings/passwords, click the 3 dots to the right of "saved passwords" and choose to export your passwords as a CSV file. Then, open the csv file in a text editor to see if your passwords are in the file. Are they?

pdw

pdw @burnout426

@burnout426 Thank you for the lengthy reply.
First, I had no control over what version is installed on my system. As I reported above, going to the settings/help/about opera it reports back: "Version:85.0.4341.75
Opera is up to date".
I have always let opera auto update so I never got opera from any other source. My version of opera claims that it is up to date at ver 85.
Your solution is rather lengthy and prone to errors on my part. Where you state i am to click on the 3 dots to the right of the passwords won't work because there aren't 3 dots because it doesn't show any passwords.
It's interesting you say to export my passwords. I had no idea there was an export function. Doing that will help a lot because this whole endeavor was so that I could replicate my passwords from my main machine.
Now I will try the export from that machine. Both of my machines are basically for engineering work and browsing. no social media, etc.

burnout426

burnout426 Volunteer @pdw

@pdw said in Another missing passwords problem:

My version of opera claims that it is up to date at ver 85.

Updating and checking for updates must be broken in your case.

burnout426

burnout426 Volunteer @pdw

@pdw said in Another missing passwords problem:

Where you state i am to click on the 3 dots to the right of the passwords won't work because there aren't 3 dots because it doesn't show any passwords.

Okay, then you won't be able to export your passwords then unfortunately.

burnout426

burnout426 Volunteer

I just now logged off this forum and logged back on automatically.

First, make sure you know your Opera account email address and password.

Then, in your Opera 85, close any forum tabs you have open here, goto the URL opera://settings/siteData in a new tab, type opera.com in the "search cookies" field, click "remove all shown" and click "clear all".

That will wipe out your Opera sessions to really make sure you're logged out of your Opera account everywhere.

Then, goto https://forums.opera.com/, click "Log in", which will take you to https://auth.opera.com/account/authenticate/email. Do you have to enter your email address there? Either way, click "Continue" once your email address is entered. That will take you to https://auth.opera.com/account/authenticate/password where you should have to enter your password. Are you saying you don't have to type your password there after clearing opera.com cookies?

If you still don't have to enter your password, that doesn't make sense with the password manager being empty. The only thing I can think of then is that your passwords got saved as plain text in the autofill data at the URL opera://settings/addresses instead of the password manager. Autofill data isn't something you can export though. You could copy the "Web data" file from your profile folder to the profile folder of the standalone installation to test if the standalone installation shows your passwords when trying to log in. If your passwords are in the autofill data, instead of the password manager, that means they're really not saved proper.

Now, if you want, you can use ChromePass or WebBrowserPassView to see if it can find your passwords. Just note that Windows Defender's realtime protection will flag these and potentionally unwanted programs, so you'll have to turn off realtime protection temporarily though. They're legit programs though.

pdw

pdw

Well, I finally solved my missing passwords problem. It seems that my Opera version was out of date even tho it said it was the latest(for my Windows 7) OS.
While browsing another posting, there was a new link to download for W7. After download and install, ver 95.0.4635.90,
my password save manager now works.
I am a happy camper.