Pinboards deleted, contrary sync behaviour

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leocg Moderator Volunteer @Ardony last edited by

@ardony Pinboards aren't deleted when Opera is closed, unless if you are cleaning sites data on exit.

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Ardony @leocg last edited by

@leocg Sorry to contradict, but that's exactly what happened. I don't even know how to "clean" sites. I simply closed Opera and all other programmes for routine PC maintenance. So far I've wasted an entire evening and morning trying to recover them.

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leocg Moderator Volunteer @Ardony last edited by

@ardony And only pinboards were gone?

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Ardony @leocg last edited by

@leocg Yes, as far as I'm aware. What else might you expect?

I'd only started using pinboards a couple of days prior. Thought it a brilliant idea, created 5 or 6, and put several open tabs in each to clear the clutter of so many open tabs, now the whole lot's been obliterated.

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Ardony @Ardony last edited by Ardony

@leocg Is this what you mean by "cleaning sites' data on exit"?

Settings:
"Clear cookies and site data when you quit Opera"

Found this in the settings and it is switched on.

Really appreciate your help with this.

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leocg Moderator Volunteer @Ardony last edited by

@ardony Yep, could be it.

See https://forums.opera.com/post/271872

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Ardony @leocg last edited by

@leocg Thanks, but two years later this still hasn't been fixed and is still catching out mugs like me who don't notice the tiny word "beta". That's disgraceful. And still no warning of this serious flaw despite so many complaints? I shouldn't have thought that would require much time or effort.

Talk about spoiling the ship for a ha'porth of tar. Destroying the credibility of an otherwise excellent product in this way and creating such a nightmare for users' is just plain stupid.

Still, thanks again for your help. And is there any way to recover the lost pinboards? I still have the bookmark.bak file from before this disaster occurred, but renaming it and restarting the browser has not restored the lost pinboards.

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leocg Moderator Volunteer @Ardony last edited by

@ardony Maybe it wasn't really a ug that needed to be fixed, since everything was working as it was designed to, but more of a change to try avoid data loss in the future if site data is cleared.

You can avoid losing pinboards if you enable pinboards synchronization.

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Ardony @leocg last edited by

@leocg Sorry, I really can't accept that. In the thread you referred me to above, on the same topic, two years ago the Opera representative @kmielczarczyk says:
"We should do better. We're looking into this issue and are determined to fix this."

The pinboards header still shows "beta" (if you know where to look and use a magnifying glass).

As for using sync, to quote my original post:
"I disabled sync after attempts to sync my Android phone to the PC resulted in many hundreds of bookmarks on the PC being wiped and replaced by the few older ones on the phone."

Now I can't even get sync to work at all, and as often as not can't even access my Opera account because it throws a tantrum ("Sorry, an error occurred") when I enter my email address correctly. After scanning the QR code (having backed up bookmrks) there is no field to enter the numeric code from the phone and I get another unhelpful error message.

All this would be brilliant if it worked properly, but why does it have to be so difficult? Especially for those of us who struggle with all this confusing stuff?

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leocg Moderator Volunteer @Ardony last edited by

@ardony The word Beta is big enough for anyone to see it in pinboards page.

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leocg Moderator Volunteer @Ardony last edited by

@ardony Regarding what was said back then, the phrase "We should do better" clearly shows that Pinboards were working as designed, but could be improved.

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Ardony @leocg last edited by

@leocg I hesitate to get bogged down in semantics, but the following sentence, "We're... determined to fix this" clearly contradicts your "working as designed" assertion.

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leocg Moderator Volunteer @Ardony last edited by

@ardony Well, that's your interpretation.